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Does God have a name?

mdo757 said:
Free said:
mdo757 said:
The letter "E" into the Hebrew as a vowel is a late introduction. The word "weh" in Hebrew means nothing; however, the word "wah," the wa means holy or oath, and the entire word means "Beginning."
You're missing the point. Whether one uses Yahwah or Yahweh or Jehovah doesn't matter since they are transliterated words of the original YHVH (usually given as YHWH), an unpronounceable name.

http://www.abu.nb.ca/ecm/topics/theme2.htm

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/YHWH.html

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/YHVH/yhvh.html
If a persons name should be misspelled or pronounced, then it is not that persons name. Jehovah is a result of a scribal error. Yahweh was produced as a result of ignoring the fact the the letter e was not used as a vowel. The letters J and v are modern day errors for God's name. Saying that His name is not speakable is also not correct. I don't have the history handy, but that comes from a translation error.
No, it is a fact that the pronunciation of YHWH was lost in antiquity. And once again I need to point out that the vowels for Yahweh are largely irrelevant since they obviously don't appear in YHWH.
 
Free said:
The point is that God has several names throughout Scripture and it really isn't something to get so hung up over. I don't see what is so confusing about that.

OK. Let's try to find common ground first. Which Bible version are you looking at?
 
rEVOLVEr said:
Free said:
The point is that God has several names throughout Scripture and it really isn't something to get so hung up over. I don't see what is so confusing about that.

OK. Let's try to find common ground first. Which Bible version are you looking at?
I use several--NKJV, KJV, NASB, NIV, ESV, etc.--which is what should be done to get a better understanding. But again I must state that it is of little importance which version is used, with the exception of the non-Christian NWT. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill, so to speak. God first introduces himself as YHWH, derived from the verb "to be;" hence, "I AM THAT I AM." It speaks of his self-existence, among other things. But throughout the Bible he is given many other names.
 
rEVOLVEr said:
I agree. This is a confusing thread. I am even more confused than before I started.
Some say, it's important to know the name of God, some say, it isn't.
Some come with different names which others don't agree with but both sides can quote verses to back up their claim. :crazy
I reckon. The problem is that there are all these opinions flying in left, right and centre which are being disguised by the posters as fact - no one is being malicious or anything, they just believe what they believe very strongly and think that you should too.

In the end, Free has said what really needs to be said IMO - the name of God is not something that really has to be hung up on. In Exodus 6:3, he says his name is ???? - this is the Tetragrammaton (a word derived from Greek which literally means "a word having 4 letters") - and this word is unpronounceable because we don't have the vowel points necessary to pronounce it. All we can do is use the transliterations YHWH or YHVH, which have little meaning in themselves because they're just letters that can't be spoken in English because of a lack of vowels.

The Jews use and used a number of words to refer to their God: Adonai, El, Ha-Shem, Elohim, Yah, etc. These are used universally as substitutes for the true name of God as read in the Tetragrammaton (which is unpronounceable) - I went to a friend's Bar Mitzvah recently, and even today when they must read the Tetragrammaton they use the term Adonai, which simply means "my God" in Hebrew. It may also interest you to know that in the KJV, Exodus 6:3 is one of the few places that Jehovah (another English attempt at translating the Tetragrammaton into our language, which is probably just about as inaccurate as the most commonly accepted version which is Yahweh) is used. You'll notice as you read through that "the LORD" (with small caps) is used as an English substitute for the Tetragrammaton (and many groups refer to God as "the LORD" today).

It's all a matter of interpretation in the end. If you feel compelled to be absolutely safe from blaspheming the name of God, you can use Adonai like the Jews I guess. But to blaspheme the name of God is to place little value upon it as you say it, so as long as you are respectful of his name, it should all be fine.
 
kenan said:
rEVOLVEr said:
I agree. This is a confusing thread. I am even more confused than before I started.
Some say, it's important to know the name of God, some say, it isn't.
Some come with different names which others don't agree with but both sides can quote verses to back up their claim. :crazy
I reckon. The problem is that there are all these opinions flying in left, right and centre which are being disguised by the posters as fact - no one is being malicious or anything, they just believe what they believe very strongly and think that you should too.

In the end, Free has said what really needs to be said IMO - the name of God is not something that really has to be hung up on. In Exodus 6:3, he says his name is ???? - this is the Tetragrammaton (a word derived from Greek which literally means "a word having 4 letters") - and this word is unpronounceable because we don't have the vowel points necessary to pronounce it. All we can do is use the transliterations YHWH or YHVH, which have little meaning in themselves because they're just letters that can't be spoken in English because of a lack of vowels.

The Jews use and used a number of words to refer to their God: Adonai, El, Ha-Shem, Elohim, Yah, etc. These are used universally as substitutes for the true name of God as read in the Tetragrammaton (which is unpronounceable) - I went to a friend's Bar Mitzvah recently, and even today when they must read the Tetragrammaton they use the term Adonai, which simply means "my God" in Hebrew. It may also interest you to know that in the KJV, Exodus 6:3 is one of the few places that Jehovah (another English attempt at translating the Tetragrammaton into our language, which is probably just about as inaccurate as the most commonly accepted version which is Yahweh) is used. You'll notice as you read through that "the LORD" (with small caps) is used as an English substitute for the Tetragrammaton (and many groups refer to God as "the LORD" today).

It's all a matter of interpretation in the end. If you feel compelled to be absolutely safe from blaspheming the name of God, you can use Adonai like the Jews I guess. But to blaspheme the name of God is to place little value upon it as you say it, so as long as you are respectful of his name, it should all be fine.

I'm quite disappointed if I have to draw the conclusion that no one knows the name of God. :shame
 
rEVOLVEr said:
I'm quite disappointed if I have to draw the conclusion that no one knows the name of God. :shame
Sad but true. The Jewish people believed that the name was so sacred that it could not be pronounced without it being blasphemed. The vowel points have been lost in antiquity.

In any case, we don't call our parents by our first name, there's no reason why we can't call our heavenly Father by the name God - God is a title, just as father or mother is a title.
 
GOD has many names to describe His character, workmanship, and His all-encompassing personality.

Names-of-Christ-Print-C10097627.jpg


"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."
-Isaiah 43:11
 
AnnieHere said:
GOD has many names to describe His character, workmanship, and His all-encompassing personality.

"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."
-Isaiah 43:11

Thanks, Annie. Unfortunately, that doesn't answer my original question.
 
I am sure someone mentioned why the Hebrew schollars simply started to use the name Adoni.

I like Isaiah when he used the term, "His name, is from Everlasting".

Now we know that He took the form of Yashuah/Jesus... My Elohim has become my Savior...I'M good with that...........

Yet He comes with a new name written on His thigh. I think is may be fun to think what that might be. We shall walk in the Name of our God in the new Jerusalem. Since we will go back to the everlasting covenant, I like Everlasting Father...........Go figure, ha ha ....
 
Thanks again but I would rather think that nobody knows the real name.
"May God B. Less!"

As you wish.

That which YOU THINK, has no credence with the authority of the Word of God!


because you have not the mind of Christ.

"But God hath revealed them unto US by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea,
the deep things of God."
-1 Corinthians 2:10
 
AnnieHere said:
Thanks again but I would rather think that nobody knows the real name.
"May God B. Less!"

As you wish.

That which YOU THINK, has no credence with the authority of the Word of God!


because you have not the mind of Christ.

Wow. It makes you sound that you have the mind of Christ. Are you sure?
 
rEVOLVEr said:
Wow. It makes you sound that you have the mind of Christ. Are you sure?
Eh, he's a fundie. Humility is a virtue I say.

If it makes any difference, we do know the actual name of God, it's ????, we just don't know how to pronounce it :dunno
 
kenan said:
rEVOLVEr said:
Wow. It makes you sound that you have the mind of Christ. Are you sure?
Eh, he's a fundie. Humility is a virtue I say.

I hope he'll come back to answer my question...

kenan said:
If it makes any difference, we do know the actual name of God, it's ????, we just don't know how to pronounce it :dunno

Fair enough.
 
Hi all!

I found a wonderful explaination that brings together much of the biblical knowledge being shared here in answer to the OP~ so I thought to share it with you all... From Don Stewart on Blueletterbible.org:


The Hebrew words Elohim and Adonai are applied to something other than the true and living God. There is, however, one name that is unique to the God of the Bible. This name is Yahweh—an alternative transliteration is Jehovah. Yahweh refers to "the self-existent, eternal God" the name God revealed to Moses:

And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM. And He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you' (Exodus 3:14).

Moses later wrote.

The Lord is a warrior; the Lord is his name (Exodus 15:3).

The prophet Isaiah declared.

I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols (Isaiah 42:8).

Jeremiah wrote.

Therefore I will teach them - this time I will teach them my power and might. Then they will know that my name is the LORD (Jeremiah 16:21).

Jeremiah also wrote.

This is what the LORD says, he who made the earth, the LORD who formed it and established it -the LORD is his name (Jeremiah 33:2).

The prophet Amos wrote.

He who made the Pleiades and Orion, who turns blackness into dawn and darkens day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land - the LORD is his name (Amos 5:8).

In Amos it also says.

The One who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and has founded his vaulted dome over the earth, he who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the earth, the Lord is his name (Amos 9:6).

Therefore the name Yahweh or Jehovah (Lord) is the name that God uses of Himself.

All Capital Letters In English Translations

In English translations of the Old Testament, whenever we find the word Lord spelled LORD with all capital letters, it is the translation of the name Yahweh.

The Vowel Points Were Taken From Adon

The name Jehovah or Yahweh is taken from the consonants of the divine name and the vowels for the Hebrew word for master "Adon." The four letters that spell the divine name (YHWH or JHVH) are called the Tetragrammaton.

Yahweh Is The Sacred Name

The name Yahweh is sacred. The Jews considered as unpronounceable and incommunicable.

Yahweh Is The Covenant Keeping Name

Yahweh is the covenant-keeping name of God. When the creative aspect of God is recorded then the name Elohim is used (Genesis 1). However when there is a relationship involved with humanity the name Yahweh is used (Genesis 2). These differences are consistent throughout the entire Old Testament.

Yahweh Is Used With Other Names For God

Yahweh is used in combination with other names for God.

Yahweh-Elohim

This is translated "the Lord God." This title is used of God relationship to humanity as the Creator, and Redeemer.

This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens (Genesis 2:4).

Later, in the same chapter, we read.

So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place (Genesis 2:21).

When Adam and Eve sinned, Yahweh-Elohim made them garments of skin.

The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them (Genesis 3:21).

This name is also used of God's relationship to Israel.

The Lord, the God of heaven, who took me from my father's house and from the land of my birth, and who spoke to me and who swore to me, saying, ‘To your descendants I will give this land,' He will send His angel before you, and you will take a wife for my son from there (Genesis 24:7).

Moses also wrote.

God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations" (Exodus 3:15).

Adonai Yahweh

The combination of Adonai Yahweh is used. Moses said.

O Lord God, you have begun to show your servant your greatness and your strong hand; for what god is there in heaven or on earth who can do such works and mighty acts as yours? (Deuteronomy 3:24).

Joshua wrote.

Joshua said, "Alas, O Lord God, why did you ever bring this people over the Jordan, only to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? If only we had been willing to dwell beyond the Jordan" (Joshua 7:7).

Yahweh Sabaoth - The Lord Of Hosts

He is also known as the Lord of Hosts.

Now this man would go up from his city yearly to worship and to sacrifice to the Lord of hosts in Shiloh (1 Samuel 1:3).

This combination occurs at times with reference to warfare. It occurs mostly when the nation Israel is in some type of crisis. For example we read.

The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our stronghold (Psalm 46:7).

It also speaks of God' power and glory.

Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory (Psalm 24:10).

The primary idea behind, "hosts" is the angels but the name also refers to the divine power that is available to meet the need of the Lord's people.

The Word Yahweh Implies A Relationship

He is Yahweh only to those who have a relationship with Him. The name Yahweh is used throughout the Old Testament with compound words that describe something of His character.

He Is The Lord Who Provides

Yahweh is the providing God.

And Abraham called the name of the place, The-Lord-Will-Provide (Genesis 22:14).

He Is The Lord Who Heals

He is the Lord who heals.

He said, "If you listen carefully to the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you (Exodus 15:26)

He Is Our Banner

He is called the Lord our banner.

And Moses built an altar and called it, The LORD is my banner (Exodus 17:15)

Yahweh Is Our Peace

The Lord is also our peace.

Then Gideon built an altar there to the LORD, and called it, The LORD is peace. To this day it still stands at Ophrah, which belongs to the Abiezrites (Judges 6:24).

He Is A Shepherd

The Lord is the Shepherd to believers.

The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want (Psalm 23:1).

Yahweh Is The Lord Our Righteousness

He is also the Lord our righteousness.

Now this is his name by which he will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS (Jeremiah 23:6).

He Is The Lord Who Is There

When His kingdom comes to this earth, He is the Lord who is there.

The circumference of the city shall be eighteen thousand cubits. And the name of the city from that time on shall be, The LORD is There (Ezekiel 48:35).

Each of these names of the Lord shows how He meets the needs of humanity.

The Divine Qualities Are Stressed With His Name

There are also a number of the divine qualities or attributes of the Lord that is stressed. These include the following.

The Lord Is Mighty

The Lord is mighty.

The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; he shall stir up his zeal like a man of war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; he shall prevail against his enemies (Isaiah 42:13).

The Lord Is Our Maker

He is the Lord our Maker.

Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord our Maker (Psalm 95:6)

The Lord Most High

He is the Lord Most High.

I will praise the Lord according to His righteousness, and will sing praise to the name of the Lord Most High (Psalm 7:17)

The Lord Is The Judge

Scripture says that the Lord is the Judge.

Therefore I have not sinned against you, but you wronged me by fighting against me. May the Lord, the Judge, render judgment this day between the children of Israel and the people of Ammon (Judges 11:27).

Summary

In the Old Testament the divine name is the Lord. The Hebrew word is pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah. This is the special name that God [gave] to His people. In the English Bible it is spelled with all capital letters LORD. The name is also used in compound form with other divine names. This includes Yahweh-Elohim, Yahweh-Adonai, and Yahweh Sabaoth. The compound forms of the divine name emphasize the various ways in which the Lord relates to humanity. The name Yahweh is the covenant name between God and His people. It is not used of false gods. <Seehttp://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/stewart.cfm?id=1305>


Good stuff, eh? I agree with Don, and I also have spoken to our Lord God as dear Father~ when in prayer... oh how I LOVE to call on His WONDERFUL name!

sheshisown~
:shades
 
Yahwah has many name titles, and He is also known as Holy Spirit and the God of truth. :amen
  • Psalm 31:5
    Into your hands I commit my spirit; redeem me, O Yahwah, the God of truth.

    Isaiah 65:16
    Whoever invokes a blessing in the land will do so by the God of truth; he who takes an oath in the land will swear by the God of truth. For the past troubles will be forgotten and hidden from my eyes.

    John 14:16-17
    "And I will ask the Father, and he will give you Counsel and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth."

    John 15:26
    "When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.
 
During the Babylonian captivity the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the

Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors. Aramaic was closely related to Hebrew and,

while sharing many vocabulary words in common, contained some words that sounded the same

or similar but had other meanings. In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme†used in

Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of YHWH must be put to death†began to be

interpreted as “pronounce†rather than “blasphemeâ€. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic,

this verse was (mis)understood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of YHWH must be put

to death.†Since then, observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the

name, but use Adonai (“my Lordâ€) instead.This also lead to some believing that God's name

is not pronouncable.
Some Biblical theophoric names end in ia(h) or yah as shortened forms of YHWH: that points

to the vowels being "a".
 
mdo757 said:
During the Babylonian captivity the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the

Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors. Aramaic was closely related to Hebrew and,

while sharing many vocabulary words in common, contained some words that sounded the same

or similar but had other meanings. In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme†used in

Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of YHWH must be put to death†began to be

interpreted as “pronounce†rather than “blasphemeâ€. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic,

this verse was (mis)understood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of YHWH must be put

to death.†Since then, observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the

name, but use Adonai (“my Lordâ€) instead.This also lead to some believing that God's name

is not pronouncable.
Some Biblical theophoric names end in ia(h) or yah as shortened forms of YHWH: that points

to the vowels being "a".
Not exactly. No one thinks that because Adonai is used that the pronunciation is of YHWH is lost; the pronunciation is lost precisely because the name wasn't supposed to be pronounced and Adonai was used.
 
Free said:
mdo757 said:
During the Babylonian captivity the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the

Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors. Aramaic was closely related to Hebrew and,

while sharing many vocabulary words in common, contained some words that sounded the same

or similar but had other meanings. In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme†used in

Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of YHWH must be put to death†began to be

interpreted as “pronounce†rather than “blasphemeâ€. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic,

this verse was (mis)understood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of YHWH must be put

to death.†Since then, observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the

name, but use Adonai (“my Lordâ€) instead.This also lead to some believing that God's name

is not pronouncable.
Some Biblical theophoric names end in ia(h) or yah as shortened forms of YHWH: that points

to the vowels being "a".
Not exactly. No one thinks that because Adonai is used that the pronunciation is of YHWH is lost; the pronunciation is lost precisely because the name wasn't supposed to be pronounced and Adonai was used.
Then how are the Jews able to pronounce it every year at the synogoge?
 
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