Does God LOVE everybody

[JLB]

JLB



Did God love them, and did Christ die for them ? Yes or no

Tares are an exclusive group, exclusive from the rest of mankind and are associated with the return of Christ.

Let’s review the text to see if the answer to your question is there.

Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ” Matthew 13:24-30

Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”
He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
Matthew 13:36-43

• The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.

I believe God loves the sons of the kingdom, and Jesus died for them.

I also see that there will be sons of the kingdom that will be cast into outer darkness.

And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Matthew 8:11-13


As far as the tares who are children of the devil, the only info this passage refers to them is …

• The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

• For God so loved the world

So yes God loves them.

God loves His enemies, and has called us to do the same.

Jesus died for the world.



JLB

 

[electedbyHim]

What’s your point?

I will agree the tare’s are children of the devil, and are not “legitimate” human beings, such as the Nephilim were in the days of Noah.

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matthew 24:37

Remember the uprooting of the tares will be at the end of the age at the time of the harvest.

The tares are exclusive to the last generation just before His return.

How does that fit into your “elect” or “non-elect” narrative?

I will agree the tare’s are children of the devil, and are not “legitimate” human beings, such as the Nephilim were in the days of Noah.

What does that even mean?

are not “legitimate” human beings,

What does that mean?

They are not human?

 

[brightfame52]

JLB

Tares are an exclusive group, exclusive from the rest of mankind and are associated with the return of Christ.

Did God love them and did Christ die for them ? Yes or no please

 

[Hopeful 2]

Are you JLB ?

Nope.
I answered a question on an open forum.

Do you think that God has created folks, just to burn them ?
I don't.

 

[JLB]

What does that even mean?

are not “legitimate” human beings,

Do you understand the giants in the days of Noah we’re a hybrid being? Not fully human.

 

[Whatever]

What’s excludes?

excludes - verb - Third-person singular simple present indicative form of exclude.

Excludes means to intentionally not include someone or something in a group or activity, or to prevent them from participating. For example, a price may exclude taxes, meaning those costs are not included in the total.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 6:64 But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe

Whoever believes shall not perish. Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe.

Those who Jesus knew from the beginning did not believe, are excluded from your John 3:16 passage.

 

[electedbyHim]

Do you understand the giants in the days of Noah we’re a hybrid being? Not fully human.

What does that have to do with the tares?

 

[JLB]

excludes - verb - Third-person singular simple present indicative form of exclude.

Excludes means to intentionally not include someone or something in a group or activity, or to prevent them from participating. For example, a price may exclude taxes, meaning those costs are not included in the total.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 6:64 But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe

Whoever believes shall not perish. Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe.

Those who Jesus knew from the beginning did not believe, are excluded from your John 3:16 passage.

What’s being excluded?

 

[JLB]

What does that have to do with the tares?

The giants were not natural human beings like the children of the devil; the tares.

IOW’s the tares are a unique class of beings that are exclusive to the last generation and really have no place in the discussion of your “elect” “non-elect” narrative.

Out of all the tares, do you believe any are elect?

 

[electedbyHim]

The giants were not natural human beings like the children of the devil; the tares.

Now hold on Hoss.

That is not even Biblical.

The tares are imposters in the church, they will be the the ones that Christ says. depart from me, I never knew you.

The tares are not the Nephilim.

Where do you get this teaching from, not the Bible.

 

[JLB]

The tares are imposters in the church

Where does it say the tares are imposters in the Church?

There have been imposters in the Church for two thousand years.

There have tares are unique to the return of Christ; the last generation.

Jesus plainly explains this -

He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Matthew 13:37-39

• the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matthew 24:37

 

[electedbyHim]

Where does it say the tares are imposters in the Church?

There have been imposters in the Church for two thousand years.

There have tares are unique to the return of Christ; the last generation.

Jesus plainly explains this -

He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.
Matthew 13:37-39

• the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matthew 24

What does this have to do with the Nephilin.

Tares are the unsaved.

Children of the devil, all the unregenerate are children of satan. John 8:44

 

[Whatever]

Remember the uprooting of the tares will be at the end of the age at the time of the harvest.
The tares are exclusive to the last generation just before His return.

Nothing puts the tares as the last generation. It doesn't have to be talking about living people.
The field is the world. The wheat and tares are all the people born since creation.
At the second coming is when everybody (living and dead) will be separated.

Malachi 4:1 "For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up," Says the LORD of hosts, "That will leave them neither root nor branch.

You think Malachi, writing over 2,000 years ago, was only talking about a few people at the last generation?
Sounds like there were tares around in his day too.

 

[Whatever]

What’s being excluded?

I just answered it in my last post. I guess you don't really read what we say.

 

[hawkman]

I will agree the tare’s are children of the devil, and are not “legitimate” human beings, such as the Nephilim were in the days of Noah.

What do you mean by that? What do you think the tares are? I think they are just regular people.

What does this have to do with the Nephilin.

Tares are the unsaved.

Children of the devil, all the unregenerate are children of satan. John 8:44

Could they be Nephilim , I say that possibility exists . Why do I say that , this verse .
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Jesus tells us it will be in the last days when the tares are reaped .

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Good conversation , carry on . "Hoss" , good one electedbyHim .

 

[electedbyHim]

Could they be Nephilim , I say that possibility exists . Why do I say that , this verse .
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Jesus tells us it will be in the last days when the tares are reaped .

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Good conversation , carry on . "Hoss" , good one electedbyHim .

I just cannot see Nephilin as the tares.

Also, many views on those giants, but that is for a whole other thread.

Good conversation , carry on . "Hoss" , good one

I like to try to have fun in this.

Hope JLB did not take that negative or seriously.

 

[JLB]

What does this have to do with the Nephilin.

I have answered this before.

They are both illegitimate beings living on the earth.

Tares are a unique classification of beings that are specifically alive in the last generation.

 

[JLB]

I just cannot see Nephilin as the tares.

Do you believe among the tares there are any elect?

 

[electedbyHim]

Do you believe among the tares there are any elect?

The elect are regenerated humans, Christians.

The answer would be no.

 

[JLB]

The elect are regenerated humans, Christians.

The answer would be no.

So the elect were never unsaved; unregenerate?