Does God LOVE everybody

[Zceptre]

Zceptre



Not even close, i c this conversation is way over your head.

There isn't a need to insult me with accusations of being stupid.

I don't see Christ doing that to anyone.

No, it is not above my head. I think you are very vague in your statements.

You have clarified nothing you said.

That has nothing to do with my intellect.

Like I said. People can determine what God means in those two verses themselves.

 

[hawkman]

TOS 1.2 Those who identify themselves as Christians will be held accountable to conduct themselves as such. If they are truly governed by the Holy Spirit, they will not continually engage in goading, mocking, insulting, trolling, berating or inciting other members to anger and resentment. They will post in a Spirit of kindness and respect, even if there are doctrinal disagreements, and be quick to reconcile if differences of opinion should get heated. Disciplinary actions will be taken against those whom staff regards to be naming the name of Christ and yet are holding the truth in unrighteousness.

 

[brightfame52]

There isn't a need to insult me with accusations of being stupid.

I don't see Christ doing that to anyone.

No, it is not above my head. I think you are very vague in your statements.

That has nothing to do with my intellect.

Like I said. People can determine what God means in those two verses themselves.

There isn't a need to insult me with accusations of being stupid.

I don't see Christ doing that to anyone.

No, it is not above my head. I think you are very vague in your statements.

You have clarified nothing you said.

That has nothing to do with my intellect.

Like I said. People can determine what God means in those two verses themselves.

I didn't say that you were stupid so stop the false accusations

 

[brightfame52]

The Time of Love !


Ezk 16:6-8

6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live.

7I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.

8Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.

All whom God Loves, He Loves in Christ Jesus Rom 8:39

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

And because of this Love, He sent Him into the world that we might live through Him. 1 Jn 4:9

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

There comes a time of Love for each one of us when God says Live. Thats because we were dead in our Trespasses and Sins Eph 2:1; Col 2:13, because of God's Great Love with which He Loved us, He made us Alive ! Eph 2:4-5

4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

God says to us if Christ died for us, Live ! Its your time of Love ! That is what God's Love accomplished through Christ Jesus our Lord. Through His Covenant Blood, the Blood of the Covenant Zech 9:11

As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

All for whom God Loved in Christ, shall be made to Live, and that everlastingly. None who will perish in their sins, was Loved by God ! 3

 

[JLB]

There isn't a need to insult me with accusations of being stupid.

I don't see Christ doing that to anyone.

No, it is not above my head. I think you are very vague in your statements.

You have clarified nothing you said.

That has nothing to do with my intellect.

Like I said. People can determine what God means in those two verses themselves.

Amen.


Those who promote unbiblical theories usually tend to insult and demean when their error is being exposed.

 

[Zceptre]

Not even close, i c this conversation is way over your head.

I didn't say that you were stupid so stop the false accusations

What EXACTLY is that implying then?

That I'm brilliant and you are complimenting me?

How about just don't respond to me if you can't manage basic kindness?

First you are unkind by suggesting I can't understand, and then you say I'm lying on you.

Everyone here sees the posts. You know this right? Your statements are RIGHT THERE for everyone to read.

They weren't a year ago you know? lol

I have no idea what you are thinking but it isn't logical.

You IMPLIED I'm not intelligent enough to understand the conversation.

Let's just drop this and I won't respond to you again.

But do not accuse me of making up lies. The posts are in everyone's face.

I can't believe I'm having to point this out even honestly...

 

[Zceptre]

Amen.


Those who promote unbiblical theories usually tend to insult and demean when their error is being exposed.

Thanks.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who seen the "insult."

Now I'm "unintelligent" and a being called a "liar" for reading the insult. lol

Good to know I'm not making anything up.

Next I'll be "hallucinating..."

 

[brightfame52]

The Love of God which is in Christ Jesus Our Lord !

Rom 8:39

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Those who are not of the Elect, are those who are hated as Esau [Rom 9:13], they are alienated from God's Love and always will be , that is why they shall have their portion in the Lake of Fire, or as Jesus states, the Damnation of Hell Matt 23:33

Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Hell was made especially for them ! and they were made especially for hell.

Now These men here Jesus was speaking to, could not be those whom God Loved in Christ Jesus, stating that they cannot escape the damnation of Hell.

Also, If God's Love is in Christ Jesus, then how is it possible to be Loved of God as per Jn 3:16 without being Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the World ? 3

 

[JLB]

Thanks.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who seen the "insult."

Now I'm "unintelligent" and a being called a "liar" for reading the insult. lol

Good to know I'm not making anything up.

Next I'll be "hallucinating..."

You are welcome here. Glad to have you.


We all need to follow the teachings of the scriptures rather than the traditions and teaching of man.

 

[Zceptre]

You are welcome here. Glad to have you.

Hey thanks man. Good to be here.

 

[Whatever]

We all need to follow the teachings of the scriptures rather than the traditions and teaching of man.

Unless you know Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and have the original manuscripts, the Bible you use is a tradition of man (Church councils.)

 

[JLB]

Unless you know Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and have the original manuscripts, the Bible you use is a tradition of man (Church councils.)

Your Bible may be the tradition of men.


My Bible is the word of God; scripture inspired by God.

 

[Zceptre]

Unless you know Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and have the original manuscripts, the Bible you use is a tradition of man (Church councils.)

And yet Christ was reading a Greek translation of the Old Testament in His day. Not Hebrew.

Matthew 21:16 is translated properly only if you follow it back to the Septuagint translation in Psalm 8.

The Old Testament in KJV, or other, does not align with the New Testament quote that Lord Jesus uses.

This means Lord Jesus was quoting the Septuagint translation of Psalm 8, because that is what He was reading.

This is also well known being that the Jewish people were under Greek rule at the time and very few of them actually spoke or used Hebrew on a daily basis.

So I'm guessing... Lord Jesus was reading a Greek Old Testament and that was tradition of man too...

I'll just have to humbly disagree with you on that.

It doesn't add up and seems more like an excuse to give people telling them they are not able to read a "real" Bible and cannot interpret scripture or learn about God themselves.

This is in essence the baseless claim of the Catholic Church, that what they call "lay-people" cannot go straight to God.

Sorry, but they can certainly go straight to God. (Matthew 27:51) (Hebrews 4:16)

1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

But then... you are going to say this isn't valid because I didn't give you the Greek huh? lol

And the "having the original manuscripts" thing... Not even scholars have that.

I challenge you to name me ONE person who is reading the entire Bible from "the original manuscripts."

You can't even fit them all in one room, let alone own them all, read them all, access them all etc.

They are all under lock and key as a matter of fact. So this argument has some big hurdles to jump and is falling way short.

If you would like though, you can post a picture / photo of YOUR original manuscripts that you are reading of the entire Bible.

 

[brightfame52]

What manner of Love is this ?

1 Jn 3:1

1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons [children] of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

We know or should know that God does not Love all men without exception because all men without exception are not the children of God ! Those whom God Loved in Jn 3:16 are the same ones in 1 Jn 3:1. Now God bestowing His Love on the me in 1 Jn 3:1 constitutes them children of God, cannot be based upon believing, when Jn 3:16 is not based upon believing nor is Rom 5:8

8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners [unbelievers], Christ died for us.

God does not love one one way when we are unregenerate, then after conversion love us another way. The same ones God Loved and bestowed His Love on in 1 Jn 3:1 are the same as in Rom 5:8, and they have always [before conversion] been Children of God. This is intimated in Jn 11:52

52And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

Now, the Children of God are also the Children of Promise Rom 9:8

8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Now Isaac was of the Children of Promise Gal 4:28

28Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Now did Isaac have to be a believer to be a Child of Promise ? The answer is no. He was a Child of promise before his natural birth.

And its the same with all Children of promise, who are also Children of God !

Now to say that all men without exception are Children of God, would be to lie against the Truth which clearly designates some men children of the devil 1 Jn 3:10

10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

So scripture is quite conclusive that God Loved His Children, and all men without exception are not God's Children, Children of Promise , so God could not have Loved all men without exception ! 3

 

[Whatever]

My Bible is the word of God; scripture inspired by God.

So God inspired you personally to know that the 66 books we Protestants use and none other are the right ones?

The Apocrypha is a collection of pre-New Testament works by Jewish writers, many collected in the Septuagint, a Greek translation of Hebrew texts including the 39 canonical books of the Old Testament. These books are considered Scripture by the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, but not by Protestant denominations.

 

[JLB]

So God inspired you personally to know that the 66 books we Protestants use and none other are the right ones?

I’m not Protestant.

My bible is scripture.

If the Bible you have is not sufficient to instruct you in the way of righteousness and you desire more that what the scriptures teach then that is between you and God.

 

[Zceptre]

So God inspired you personally to know that the 66 books we Protestants use and none other are the right ones?

Just moving on to asking more questions but don't have any answers for the one's I asked? lol

Or maybe just ignoring them and hoping they will go away?

Where are your manuscripts?

I'm going to guess the answer is that you don't have any original manuscripts and by your own definitions you are following the traditions of men?

I mean acting like you didn't make any invalid assertions doesn't make them go away. lol.......

What is this, something people have a habit of doing around here?

 

[Whatever]

I mean acting like you didn't make any invalid assertions doesn't make them go away. lol.......

What invalid assertions did I make?

 

[Whatever]

If the Bible you have is not sufficient to instruct you in the way of righteousness and you desire more that what the scriptures teach then that is between you and God.

But I believe the Bible I have (modern English translations with 66 books) is sufficient to instruct me in the way or truth.
I know that there are probably hundreds of other "scriptures" out there, like the Apocrypha, that have been rejected by others before I was even born. I had a book a long time ago called "The lost books of Eden and the Bible" or something like that. It had stories where Adam tried all kinds of stupid things and killed himself and God had to keep making him over again. They had infancy stories of the boy Jesus making a bird out of mud and then it flying away. But they are not in my New American Standard or NIV and others, so I trust those who rejected them were right.

Those other "scriptures" are helpful for theologians to read to learn of how people thought back then and understand the historical context of those times. They will just mix up the average person though. They are also helpful for learning the meaning of Greek words that only appear only once or twice in the New Testament. I imagine that all the translators of our modern versions have read a lot of those other "scriptures" in order to understand the Greek language better.

One more time to be clear, when I read my New American Standard or English Standard Version or NIV or others, I am reading what fallible men have wrote - translating the Hebrew, Arabic and Greek into English. I trust that comparing several to each other I am getting the Word of God.

But I don't go around and accuse others of just knowing the traditions of men.

 

[JLB]

But I believe the Bible I have (modern English translations with 66 books) is sufficient to instruct me in the way or truth.

Amen.