Period.
Period?
In a debate?
Yes. That's a great reply.
Just shows that you are UNABLE to provide an answer.
So a person has to be born again...
Before they could become born again.
Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?
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Period?
In a debate?
Yes. That's a great reply.
Just shows that you are UNABLE to provide an answer.
So a person has to be born again...
Before they could become born again.
Calvinists have no reasonable answer for the hope that is within them. They cannot answer as there is no answer. It’s like driving down a dead end road and insisting that we need to turn right or left. That is, RIGHT OR LEFT PERIOD. Turning around and rejecting that dead end road altogether is not an option.
When a person doesn’t apply the ideas or explanations they have in their head to real life (the scientific method,) they’re likely to fall into false thinking. An example is the question at the beginning. If we substitute any number of morally good nouns or endeavors replacing “God” in the sentence, the answer is so obvious we’d laugh at the question.
Does man the natural
ability to seek understanding children?
Does man have the natural ability to seek to help others?
Does man have the natural ability to seek to love their children?
Does man the natural
ability to seek understanding children?
Does man have the natural ability to seek to help others?
Does man have the natural ability to seek to love their children?
who are you trying to convince me or your self? if me its not going to work ...if you looks like you succeeded
I guess he didn't see Miracle on 34th St.
Seeing isn't Believing. Believing is seeing.
How's that go?
For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son that whosoever is regenerated first, then Believes will have everlasting life...?
For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son that whosoever is regenerated first, then Believes will have everlasting life...?
i have heard the same story seems like hundreds of times i rejoined carm forum went to the Calvinist section posted against the reformed super men. they had a cape and a Big C on there Chest . the moment i replied back with scriptures . the marshal And the deputies . let me know real quick i was in Calvinist country . so i blistered there rebuke told them what i though about each one of them and i got banned . which i knew i would I really didn't care
there is no new defense for reformed theology there trained. i have a internet friend in Scotland she is nothing like the Dogmatic Calvinist. in fact i have listened to her preacher on you tube. he preached a simple message of course we have the heavy hitters like john MacArthur some time's he gets out in left field
they toes the word regenerated around a lot . you cant become a new creation in Christ until after your saved . there is no transition in getting saved , you either get saved/born again or you dont , it sounds much like purgatory preaching /teaching . wait till your sins are purged then you can go to heaven
I would bet that most if not all of those Calvinists that posted were what we could call amateurs. A Calvinist seminary professor or pastor does not have time to come on these forums. You are reading posts from people who have read a few Calvinist books and now think they are experts - I probably fit in that category. I am a High School dropout.
If you want to see real life fruit of Calvinism, you would need to go to a Calvinist Church and observe how those people live in real life.
Like I said before, any Atheist coming here and observing the bickering going on, not only between Calvinist and non-Calvinist, but those bickering about baptism, end times (your preterism), women pastors, and a thousand other things, would not want to have anything to do with it.
I doubt you know or understand as much as you think you do.
Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.
You think a Calvinist should be able to tell you what God has done from the beginning to the end.
We can only tell your what He has revealed in the pages of Scripture, not every detail of the how and why.
i have done that not in person but a friend lives in Scotland is reformed. i have watched live services and there are nothing like mr bright. in fact he preached like anyone else from the word
No professor on Calvinism can escape the fruit of how they think. As a man thinks so is he applies to all, well educated and not. No professor of Calvinism can answer the questions I propose with any kind of sound intellectual reason. The honest ones say, “we don’t know.” The ones of less savory character say essentially “we don’t care.”
The question isn’t if they don’t do kind and christian service under acceptable conditions. The question if they allow other views. Are they tolerant or intolerant? And how do they behave towards those who refuse calvinism?
Too bad. But you’re wrong. All we have here is words. We can’t serve each other tea, provide food or material comfort. We can only exchange ideas. And I never bicker. I just know how to exchange intellectual material whereas many don’t accept anything but,”we all agree.” Americans in particular cannot stand disagreement. They get nasty.
You cannot know that, can you? You don’t ask. You just insult. That is bickering.
And yet Moses knew the ways of God. So did Abraham. Solomon worshipped demons so he was not a candidate.
Untrue. Never said that. I asked why God chooses some for Hell.
Calvinism is no where in scripture. But your response is typical of those who adhere to this theology.
I understand. It’s frustrating it to be unable to answer the easy questions put to you.
You're a witness?
To the truth?
How do you know it's the truth?
Every other denomination does not agree with your soteriology.
That should ring a danger bell.
Brightfame
If you have Your Truth
And I have my truth,
It means
THERE IS NO TRUTH.
At least he replies to you.
I think Brigjtfame is terrified of me.
Pay attention.
He will not reply to my posts.
Even though I'm very respectful.
Or, I try to be.
But you don't ask real questions. You expect me to answer something like "if God is omnipotent, then can He make a rock so big He can't lift it."
There is your unanswerable question. I can only tells you what the Bible says. The Bible never says "I chose some for Hell for this reason, and then gives the answer. It never says He chooses anybody for Hell. The closest it gets is:
Rom 9:22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
Proverbs 16:4 in different translations.
The Message
God made everything with a place and purpose; even the wicked are included—but for judgment.
New American Standard Bible 1995
The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.
King James Version
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
It appears that God has prepared some for destruction to show His power and make His wrath known.
Tell me that is not an answer.
I know you want a 500 page dissertation of all the metaphysical, mechanical and psychological explanations, but nobody can give that to you.
The only intolerance I saw was jerry63935 definitely not a Calvinist responding to brightfame52.