Eating His Flesh and drinking His blood

[Mysteryman]

As it is true that the church has adopted many false doctorines, and because of this they have fallen from grace. But even thought this is true, they will not wander in the wilderness as you have presented. God's promises are true. Christians have the mind of Christ !

If they indeed had the mind of Christ, they would agree with the Word and not add to it like you are admitting that they do with their many false doctrines.

God has ALWAYS handed His people over to the Beast when they went into error. Israel was forever repenting because God handed them over to the enemy when they went astray. God is the same God today. Christians have become hard of hearing and so He is handing them over to the enemy so that they can repent.

We do not have long to wait to see if my words are coming true. The next thing that is going to happen is the US economy is going to fall apart .

C

My friend Cornelius

You yourself are as guilty as others, when it comes to believing false doctorines. Why is it that you believe you are greater than everyone else here ? Your words do not show the wisdom of God. People only go back into bondage, when they want to believe as negative as you do ! Also, people who claim to be Christians, and live according to the law, are also back under bondage once again.

You believe that God is going to hand over his children to the enemy of God , so that they will repent ? How absurd !

My friend , if one falls from grace, we who are more mature, are to restore them . Not make them feel like they are going to be handed over to the devil.

The children of Israel where not Christians. They were a chosen nation. God was suppose to be married to Israel but they constantly wanted to go back into paganism, and worship other gods. God gave them a divorcement because of this. And even though he did this, he never left the children of Israel. The innocent, the children were allowed to go into the promise land. So God kept his promise unto Israel. And God will keep his promises unto his children. Christians are children of God. Israel was not !

We are to look at how God dealt with Israel as an example for us to follow. However, the promises of God will not allow his children to wander in the wilderness. The same held true with the children of Israel, as God allowed them into the promise land. This is why in the church epistles we are called children of God. God will not allow his children to go through what you have preached !

And so what, if the things happen as you say they will. God "shall" provide ! Not maybe, or if, or per chance. He shall supply !

I am not sure who put these false idea's (doctorines) in your head. But you need to come to the realization that they are false.

We have been sanctified, and justified, and made righteous. We might not act it from time to time. So God wants those in the church to help restore them, and pray for them. Not threaten them with fear tactics !

What you have said today in the posts I have read, are not of the true God. It did not come from the table of the Lord !

I exhort you Cornelius to step down from your high horse, and become meek once again to the truth. Humble yourself from the error's of your ways, and be restored once again in the grace of God.

Promote truth and walking in righteousness, and the grace and mercy of God towards his children. Help restore those who have fallen for the pernicous ways of the adversary of God. Walk in Galatians 6:1 & 2 and stop walking by your carnal mind.

And remember Galatians 6:3 Cornelius, as it pertains to you at this paticular time in your life.

I ask this if you have eyes to see and ears to hear. Other than our conversations between us, you must remember that I actually do not know you. I only know what you type on the forums. I trust God, that if it be possible, that he will enlighten you towards the truth.

Bless

 

[glorydaz]

Oh my...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see we are headed for some very hard times. The church is never spared from tribulations. We are only spared from God's wrath. While the world falls apart around us, those who love the Lord will be kept by Him until His coming. That certainly doesn't mean we won't suffer persecution and hardship and even death...we will, without a doubt. To claim it's all pie in the sky til we die by and by is simply burying your head in the sand. I don't worry because my trust is in the Lord. He will see me through whatever comes. We're kept through the fire...not kept from it.

 

[Mysteryman]

Oh my...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see we are headed for some very hard times. The church is never spared from tribulations. We are only spared from God's wrath. While the world falls apart around us, those who love the Lord will be kept by Him until His coming. That certainly doesn't mean we won't suffer persecution and hardship and even death...we will, without a doubt. To claim it's all pie in the sky til we die by and by is simply burying your head in the sand. I don't worry because my trust is in the Lord. He will see me through whatever comes. We're kept through the fire...not kept from it.

Hi glorydaz

We are always in tribulation. The adversary of God will make sure of that. We are to put on the whole armour of God, that we may stand against the whiles of the devil.

But we christians, will not be a part of the tribulation period , which is mentioned in the sixth seal. We will be gathered up before the opening of the sixth seal, which is the tribulation period. The wrath of God takes place during the seventh seal. During the sixth seal, the church (body of Christ) is not here on this earth. God deals with the 144,000 during the sixth seal, and the seven churches mentioned in the book of Rev.

The wrath of God starts during the sixth seal, but is not fully released until the seventh seal. Which means that it is not the great day of his wrath. This is where many misunderstand. They think that the church goes through the tribulation, which it does not, because it is the beginning of the wrath of God. But it is not the great day of his wrath, but his wrath does start upon the opening of the sixth seal.

We have enough tribulation to deal with within our own dispensation. There is no need to believe that we need more tribulation in order to please God.

We live today, that is the Church, we live in the age of grace. But tribulation is still all around us because of the adversary of God. We wrestle not agains flesh and blood, but against principlaities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places".

This is why it is important to put on the whole armour of God, that we be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Bless

 

[DarcyLu]

Oh my...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see we are headed for some very hard times. The church is never spared from tribulations. We are only spared from God's wrath. While the world falls apart around us, those who love the Lord will be kept by Him until His coming. That certainly doesn't mean we won't suffer persecution and hardship and even death...we will, without a doubt. To claim it's all pie in the sky til we die by and by is simply burying your head in the sand. I don't worry because my trust is in the Lord. He will see me through whatever comes. We're kept through the fire...not kept from it.

check out this chart, it shows the number of major earthquakes over the past 100 years, the Bible definitely prophesies things like this:

http://www.thehorizonproject.com/earthquakes.cfm

 

[DarcyLu]

Hi glorydaz

We are always in tribulation. The adversary of God will make sure of that. We are to put on the whole armour of God, that we may stand against the whiles of the devil.

But we christians, will not be a part of the tribulation period , which is mentioned in the sixth seal. We will be gathered up before the opening of the sixth seal, which is the tribulation period. The wrath of God takes place during the seventh seal. During the sixth seal, the church (body of Christ) is not here on this earth. God deals with the 144,000 during the sixth seal, and the seven churches mentioned in the book of Rev.

The wrath of God starts during the sixth seal, but is not fully released until the seventh seal. Which means that it is not the great day of his wrath. This is where many misunderstand. They think that the church goes through the tribulation, which it does not, because it is the beginning of the wrath of God. But it is not the great day of his wrath, but his wrath does start upon the opening of the sixth seal.

We have enough tribulation to deal with within our own dispensation. There is no need to believe that we need more tribulation in order to please God.

We live today, that is the Church, we live in the age of grace. But tribulation is still all around us because of the adversary of God. We wrestle not agains flesh and blood, but against principlaities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places".

This is why it is important to put on the whole armour of God, that we be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Bless

this if false doctrine, MM. even Peter told Jesus that He did not need to go through what He did and now you are doing the same thing. Jesus rebuked Peter for doing it!

 

[Mysteryman]

Hi glorydaz

We are always in tribulation. The adversary of God will make sure of that. We are to put on the whole armour of God, that we may stand against the whiles of the devil.

But we christians, will not be a part of the tribulation period , which is mentioned in the sixth seal. We will be gathered up before the opening of the sixth seal, which is the tribulation period. The wrath of God takes place during the seventh seal. During the sixth seal, the church (body of Christ) is not here on this earth. God deals with the 144,000 during the sixth seal, and the seven churches mentioned in the book of Rev.

The wrath of God starts during the sixth seal, but is not fully released until the seventh seal. Which means that it is not the great day of his wrath. This is where many misunderstand. They think that the church goes through the tribulation, which it does not, because it is the beginning of the wrath of God. But it is not the great day of his wrath, but his wrath does start upon the opening of the sixth seal.

We have enough tribulation to deal with within our own dispensation. There is no need to believe that we need more tribulation in order to please God.

We live today, that is the Church, we live in the age of grace. But tribulation is still all around us because of the adversary of God. We wrestle not agains flesh and blood, but against principlaities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places".

This is why it is important to put on the whole armour of God, that we be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Bless

this if false doctrine, MM. even Peter told Jesus that He did not need to go through what He did and now you are doing the same thing. Jesus rebuked Peter for doing it!

Hi Darcy

Would you please share what it is that you are talking about ? Using scripture please.

 

[DarcyLu]

Hi Darcy

Would you please share what it is that you are talking about ? Using scripture please.

hi MM, i meant that the pre-trib doctrine is false and John Darby started it only 150 years ago, it is not what Jesus taught and you are giving people false hope in that they will not prepared. yet, this is probably not the correct thread as C is trying to show us the spiritual side of what Jesus meant by eating His flesh and drinking His blood.
but i guess if you want to start a thread in end times, i can continue this conversation, in the meantime perhaps you could read Matt 24.

did you see this chart? it is beginning......and you are still here....

http://www.thehorizonproject.com/earthquakes.cfm

 

[Cornelius]

Oh my...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see we are headed for some very hard times. The church is never spared from tribulations. We are only spared from God's wrath. While the world falls apart around us, those who love the Lord will be kept by Him until His coming. That certainly doesn't mean we won't suffer persecution and hardship and even death...we will, without a doubt. To claim it's all pie in the sky til we die by and by is simply burying your head in the sand. I don't worry because my trust is in the Lord. He will see me through whatever comes. We're kept through the fire...not kept from it.

 

[Mysteryman]

Hi Darcy

Would you please share what it is that you are talking about ? Using scripture please.

hi MM, i meant that the pre-trib doctrine is false and John Darby started it only 150 years ago, it is not what Jesus taught and you are giving people false hope in that they will not prepared. yet, this is probably not the correct thread as C is trying to show us the spiritual side of what Jesus meant by eating His flesh and drinking His blood.
but i guess if you want to start a thread in end times, i can continue this conversation, in the meantime perhaps you could read Matt 24.

did you see this chart? it is beginning......and you are still here....

http://www.thehorizonproject.com/earthquakes.cfm

Hi Darcy

Well, when it comes to eating the Word, this is right there , and is not out of the context of this thread.

Cornelius is deluded by his beliefs. And thus wants nothing more than to have others follow his false doctorines. This false doctorine that the church is going to go into the trtibulation is just false !

The sixth seal is the beginning of the tribulation of God. Rev. 6:12 - 17. The tribulation of God is the wrath of God. But the opening of the sixth seal is not the "great day of his wrath". That occurs in the seventh seal.

The church is not appointed to the wrath of God - I Thess 1:10

But if you would like, I can call God on my special phone and let him know that you and Cornelius and glorydaz want no part of the gathering up of the saints , which comes before the wrath of God (sixth seal). I am sure I can put in a good word for you three. Are you absolutely sure you want to go into the wrath of God ?

 

[Cornelius]

Rev. 6:12 - 17. The tribulation of God is the wrath of God.

Lets look at that statement and see where the Word places the tribulations and where does it place the wrath. Because they are two words and are two different things.


Here they are: Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

AFTER the tribulation the sun will be darkened.

Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.

Sun and moon gets darkened after the tribulation and before the wrath.

Now dear reader, watch closely because some people cannot see this. That is what I mean when I say that our doctrine blinds us to the simple truth

C

 

[Cornelius]

it is beginning......and you are still here....

http://www.thehorizonproject.com/earthquakes.cfm

...........and he will still be here tomorrow and the next day, and the next ...........

 

[Mysteryman]

it is beginning......and you are still here....

http://www.thehorizonproject.com/earthquakes.cfm

...........and he will still be here tomorrow and the next day, and the next ...........

No, it is not beginning ! But when it does, the church will no longer be here .

When it does happen, the kings of the earth and rich men and chief captains and mighty men and every bondman, and every free man will hide themselves in the dens and rocks of the mountain. You will see the stars of heaven fall unto the earth, and every mountain and island will be moved out of its place. The sun will become black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon will turn red as blood.

When this happens, I will no longer be on the internet .

 

[DarcyLu]

Rev. 6:12 - 17. The tribulation of God is the wrath of God.

Lets look at that statement and see where the Word places the tribulations and where does it place the wrath. Because they are two words and are two different things.


Here they are: Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

AFTER the tribulation the sun will be darkened.

Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.

Sun and moon gets darkened after the tribulation and before the wrath.

Now dear reader, watch closely because some people cannot see this. That is what I mean when I say that our doctrine blinds us to the simple truth

C

YES, C! this is what i see, too, when i read Matt 24, it is step-by-step guide of what will happen, Jesus is teaching it in progession! then He teaches us that we can know "the season" of when this will happen. in Matt 25, He talks about those who are ready and those who are not by the 10 virgin parable.

 

[Mysteryman]

Rev. 6:12 - 17. The tribulation of God is the wrath of God.

Lets look at that statement and see where the Word places the tribulations and where does it place the wrath. Because they are two words and are two different things.


Here they are: Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

AFTER the tribulation the sun will be darkened.

Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.

Sun and moon gets darkened after the tribulation and before the wrath.

Now dear reader, watch closely because some people cannot see this. That is what I mean when I say that our doctrine blinds us to the simple truth

C

Hi C.

False again Cornelius !

The start of the tribulation is the wrath of God. All you have done here is twist the words and private interpret the Word.

The tribulation 'is' the wrath of God, but during the sixth seal it is not the great and notable day of the Lord

There are two tribulations. The first is during the sixth seal, which is the wrath of God. The reason the seventh seal is called the "great tribulation" is because it is that "great and notable day of the Lord"

We are not appointed to wrath - I Thess. 1:10

You are calling the wrath of God that great noteable day of the Lord. But this is a half truth, which is still a lie, because a half truth deceives.

A half truth covers up the whole truth !

Both tribulations are the wrath of God !

The first tribulation is just not the great tribulation, which is the great noteable day of the Lord. Which is also called the great day of his wrath - Rev. 6:17 < Even these who made this comment in Rev. 6:17 only thought it was the great day of his wrath. But it was not ! In Rev. 7:1 & 2 & 3 God told them not to hurt the earth .

 

[glorydaz]

No, it is not beginning ! But when it does, the church will no longer be here .

When it does happen, the kings of the earth and rich men and chief captains and mighty men and every bondman, and every free man will hide themselves in the dens and rocks of the mountain. You will see the stars of heaven fall unto the earth, and every mountain and island will be moved out of its place. The sun will become black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon will turn red as blood.

When this happens, I will no longer be on the internet .

That's the problem with reading Revelations as if it were a book off the library shelf. For one thing, it does not go in chronological order. For another, our reading of it must be based on the truth of all scripture.

Believers will not be partakers of God's wrath.

And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Why would the Lord take us out of tribulation? It's a refining fire and we are "kept" through all tribulation...no matter how great. Being "kept" does not mean we won't suffer physical death. Martyrs down through history can attest to that.

Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

And here we are in tribulation again...anyone who thinks they are going to miss it is going to be unprepared.

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Here's your sixth seal signs. I realize you're counting on missing it, but please note what happens after..."and when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

I'd get ready for a taste of that "fellowship of His suffering" if I were you. :yes

 

[francisdesales]

Lets look at that statement and see where the Word places the tribulations and where does it place the wrath. Because they are two words and are two different things.


Here they are: Mat 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

AFTER the tribulation the sun will be darkened.

Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.

Sun and moon gets darkened after the tribulation and before the wrath.

Now dear reader, watch closely because some people cannot see this. That is what I mean when I say that our doctrine blinds us to the simple truth

C

Hi C.

False again Cornelius !

The start of the tribulation is the wrath of God. All you have done here is twist the words and private interpret the Word.

The tribulation 'is' the wrath of God, but during the sixth seal it is not the great and notable day of the Lord

There are two tribulations. The first is during the sixth seal, which is the wrath of God. The reason the seventh seal is called the "great tribulation" is because it is that "great and notable day of the Lord"

We are not appointed to wrath - I Thess. 1:10

You are calling the wrath of God that great noteable day of the Lord. But this is a half truth, which is still a lie, because a half truth deceives.

A half truth covers up the whole truth !

Both tribulations are the wrath of God !

The first tribulation is just not the great tribulation, which is the great noteable day of the Lord. Which is also called the great day of his wrath - Rev. 6:17 < Even these who made this comment in Rev. 6:17 only thought it was the great day of his wrath. But it was not ! In Rev. 7:1 & 2 & 3 God told them not to hurt the earth .

It's amazing how far off topic people have gotten here...

 

[stranger]

God has promised nothing to those who have fallen away from the true Gospel. Nothing is promised outside of Christ. Nothing is promised for those who are not holy and sanctified. Nothing is promised for those who do not walk as He walked. Nothing is promised for those who do not believe the promises of God.

How true! I have found only wilderness outside His rest.

blessings brother

 

[stranger]

Ok folks,

if the apostles believed in their time it was the end of the age, and it was, then the time we have left is indeed very short. Also, its not as though we are getting younger.

I want to thank all for their participation - take care

blessings brothers

 

[Cornelius]

False again Cornelius !

You will still be screaming false, when the tribulation has started and you will deny that it is here.

 

[Cornelius]

It's amazing how far off topic people have gotten here...

Not really. This is just proving what happens when people eat the words of the doctrines of demons and do not eat the Word of God. Blindness sets in :

The Lord says;

Pro 1:24 Because I have called, and ye have refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man hath regarded;
Pro 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, And would none of my reproof:
Pro 1:26 I also will laugh in the day of your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Pro 1:27 When your fear cometh as a storm, And your calamity cometh on as a whirlwind; When distress and anguish come upon you.
Pro 1:28 Then will they call upon me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they shall not find me:
Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, And did not choose the fear of Jehovah:
Pro 1:30 They would none of my counsel; They despised all my reproof.
Pro 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, And be filled with their own devices.