Eternal Union of Christ and His Children

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Heb 2:

11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Many today reject the Truth of the preexistence of Jesus Christ the God Man Mediator, but in our passage here prov 8:20-30 there is no doubt in my mind, that Christ is meant here in this passage about wisdom, who by the way is declared to be the Christ in

1 cor 1 : 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Notice that Paul writes Christ , this is significant, because this points out that as God's wisdom He was anointed, a Anointed Man [ for Deity is not anointed] and this fits perfectly with what He declares of Himself in prov 8 :

23 I was set up [anointed] from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

The phrase here set up is the hebrew word :

nacak which means:
to pour out, pour, offer, cast
a) (Qal)
1) to pour out
2) to cast metal images
3) to anoint (a king)

No doubt this is a reference to the precreative anointing of the God Man, the Christ of God, the wisdom of God.

This establishment of Jesus Christ here is in the spiritual unseen world into His office of Mediatorial Manhood, and the Head of the church, this mind you was not God the Eternal word in view, for He being very God of very God, needed not to be established or anointed, no more than the Father needed to be established or anointed..

prov 8:

24When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

The NIV says this :

24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
when there were no springs abounding with water;

25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,

The septuagint says:

24 even before he made the depths; before the fountains of water came forth: 25 before the mountains were settled, and before all hills, he begets me.

That there was a eternal generation or begetting is certainly indicated here, but who is that is being begotten ? Is it the eternal logos, no its not, for that feeds into the pagan ideology of begotten Deity, of which there is no such thing within the True God Head, for that is a blasphemous teaching of the Antichrist [ to include the nicene creed], but what we have here is the Father begetting the Man Jesus Christ in His spiritual Manhood, which is not to be confused with His manhood of flesh and blood to be later through the virgin birth. This was begetting as the head of the church, His body per

col 1:


15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Also rev 3:

14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

 

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Eternal Union of Christ and His Children cont

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We have attempted to set forth the Lord Jesus Christ as the wisdom of God personified in the eight of proverbs and from there to establish the Eternal Union of He and His children.. Jesus said at one instance :

Matt 11:19

The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

cp Heb 2:

13And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

Now returning to the proverbs lets read vs 26-30

26While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.


27When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

Here the inspired penman Solomon sets forth Christ in His continual presence with the Father [ In pre creation] in His original spiritual state; when even then He was as Hebrews described [ heb 1:3] the expression of the Fathers substance..

We have the God of Glory acts 7 : 2 and the Lord of Glory 1 cor 2:8

Now the question is this, were the elect of God present in all this ? Yes, for they as Christ were first in the Father and then in Christ, now this is not a flesh and blood existence i speak of, but a actual spiritual union and existence. Let us look at jn 17 to help shed some light vs 6

6I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

Notice the phrase " Thine they were, and thou gavest them me " They were given Him by being chosen in Him before the foundation eph 1:4, but both He and them came out of their Father which is signified in heb 2:

11For both he [Jesus Christ] that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified[children, brethren] are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

They Are all of One Father and serve One Eternal Purpose. He is the elder brother, we [ the children] are his younger brothers and sisters, He is the Head and we His body or members, all originate out of God the Father. The Father in pre creation, separated out of Himself, His Son and His children, and He entrusted them [ the children ] into the care of His Son..Thats why Jesus says in Jn 17 :

6I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

Now here is the truth, Just as Adam in time, when He was created, He had created in Him, all the physical earthy lives of the elect in Him, and so He served as a type to the Lord Jesus Christ, who when was begotten in eternity, also Had the all the spiritual lives of the elect within Him..

For this is how we begin to establish the eternal union of Jesus Christ and His children..

 

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Lets look at prov 8 :



30Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;



31Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men



In these verses we see the delight the Father had in the Son, because of their intimacy of purpose and spiritual union. How many times did we here the Father say of the Son during His public ministry these words:



Matt 3:



17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.



matt 17:



5While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.



In Isa we read these words of the Lord Jesus Christ 42:



1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.



Interesting enough the word delighteth in the hebrew is the word:



ratsah which means:

to be pleased with, be favourable to, accept favorably

a) (Qal)



1) to be pleased with, be favourable to



And notice that the aorist past tense is used back in matt 3 17 and 17:1, for the Father had been well pleased with the Son before the foundation of the world, for the Father delighted in Him for His suretyship in the engagements of the everlasting covenant.



vs 31 shows that the Father and the Son broadened their rejoicing and delight to include the Sons of men, or the world of the elect, the world God loved in Christ, Christ spiritual brethren and sisters:



Jn 3:16-17 ; 2 cor 5:19 ; this world in distinction from the world that dwells in the wicked one 1 jn 5 19, the condemned world 1 cor 11:32, and the world for whom Christ did not intercede for Jn 17 :9

 

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Who can deny that there was a Union between the First Adam and the living souls that generated from Him, that they exsited before their development and manifestation, and that that union is the cause of their being born into the natural world..If this be the case, how can it be denied that those of us who have a spiritual existence, owe it not to a previous existence and Union with the Second Adam who was made a quickening Spirit, causing us to be born of God, born of the Spirit, or born again not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever.

 

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The Eternal Union of Christ and His the church [ His body], and the distinction between Adam and Christ are to be considered. Two types of distinct families existed in Adam and in Christ, one type being of the natural order and the other is spiritual or heavenly. Jesus Christ as the head of the church, His body per col 1:

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

existed before Adam col 1:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

however Adam was first in the order of manifestation in time. Adam is the head or father of all the natural or earthy family, and Jesus Christ is the Head or Father of a spiritual family [ see isa 9:6 ]

At the head of the church is Christ and at the Head of Christ is God [ 1 cor 11:3] He Jesus Christ is a quickening spirit [ 1 cor 15:45]..

Now understand this , a family must always exist in a progenitor or Father before their development or manifestation, and this is true with Adam and with Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ existed before time, before creation, for the creation was by Him eph 3:

9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ

And He was one with the Father, as well as one with His people, His church in Him Heb 2:

11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Gal 3:

16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

For in Him [ Jesus Christ] existed a incorruptible spiritual seed as He was the Son of God, and the Anti type to Adam who when He first existed had a natural seed in him as the Son of God [ lk 3 38]; and that incorruptible seed in Him [Jesus christ] was the life of the church Jn 1:

4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Before the world was, the Lord Jesus Christ had Glory with the Father [ Jn 17:5] and represented in Himself the elect or chosen children of God, prior to them becoming partakers of flesh and blood heb 2 14 & rom 9 :11.

Note Paul writes , in rom 9 11 the children, not, they will be children, but the children, even before they were born, thats because in the eternal purpose of God, things do not have to exist for Him [ God] to call them what they are in His Purpose rom 4:

17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

This not saying that the elect literally in flesh and blood existed before creation, but that we were in Christ in a seminal fashion[chosen in Him], as we were in Adam at creation..

 

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Another Truth regarding the eternal union of Christ with His children or seed, is that of redemption, in which He was their redeemer, they were redeemed by His blood..

Now Jesus Christ as the redeemer of Gods elect, and His sisters and brothers, points to Him having a previous relationship with the ones being redeemed see heb 2:11, and this is seen in the biblical laws of redemption.. The qualification for a redeemer was he must belong to the same family of those to whom He was to redeem..This is Illustrated in a couple of places in the scripture Lev 25:

25If thy brother be waxen poor, and hath sold away some of his possession, and if any of his kin come to redeem it, then shall he redeem that which his brother sold.

Also the book of Ruth 2:

20And Naomi said unto her daughter in law, Blessed be he of the LORD, who hath not left off his kindness to the living and to the dead. And Naomi said unto her, The man is near of kin unto us, one of our next kinsmen.

3:

12And now it is true that I am thy near kinsman: howbeit there is a kinsman nearer than I.

13Tarry this night, and it shall be in the morning, that if he will perform unto thee the part of a kinsman, well; let him do the kinsman's part: but if he will not do the part of a kinsman to thee, then will I do the part of a kinsman to thee, as the LORD liveth: lie down until the morning.

4:

1Then went Boaz up to the gate, and sat him down there: and, behold, the kinsman of whom Boaz spake came by; unto whom he said, Ho, such a one! turn aside, sit down here. And he turned aside, and sat down.

4And I thought to advertise thee, saying, Buy it before the inhabitants, and before the elders of my people. If thou wilt redeem it, redeem it: but if thou wilt not redeem it, then tell me, that I may know: for there is none to redeem it beside thee; and I am after thee. And he said, I will redeem it.

6And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar mine own inheritance: redeem thou my right to thyself; for I cannot redeem it.

This is why it is written in heb 2 17, to be made like unto His brethren, all those whom He was the Firstborn of..Heb 2:

17Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Rom 8:

29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Now, was Jesus the redeemer of the serpents seed ? [ Gen 3:15 ] Did He ever sustain a relationship with the children of the devil ?

Remember, the right of redemption came through kinship, thats biblical..

 

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The Fact that Men were born into this world physically, by their union by Adam.. all that would populate the earth from the beginning of time until the end, were created in Adam here Gen 1:

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

So when God created Adam, in essence He created every human being that would have physical life, they were in Adam..

This is confirmed from a proper understanding of acts 17:

26And hath made of one blood [Adam] all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Everything had been determined about all the men in Adam ho were to be born or manifested, God determined when and where they would be born, at the very beginning of the world as with Abel and Cain, or at the end of the world as we are quickly approaching, God determined where we all would be born, the continent, country, state city and county..

None of this was a result of mans free will, mans will was not consulted, man was and is at the disposal of God's Sovereign Prerogatives for him..

None were able to have a say on whether or not God determined that they would be in Adam, in the beginning in Genesis when God created them in Him..

But the very Fact that we have physical being now, is indicative of the Fact that we had a being in Him [ seed ] when He was created, it was now just a matter of time as to when our being would serve Gods time and purpose..ecc 3:

1To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2A time to be born, and a time to die

 

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When speaking about the Eternal Union that Christ had with His church before the world began, thats not referring to the manifestation of that union as we are experimentally brought to feel it and realize it by Faith after having been regenerated or the Divine Act of being passed from death unto life [ denoting resurrection], and this union, though not actualized until some time in our physical life, this union is nevertheless actual union existing from everlasting [ see isa 9:6 The everlasting Father] between Christ as the Mediator Head of His church, people, members of His body.

Just as Abraham was made a Father of many nations gen 17:5, So likewise was Christ from everlasting..

This is the same way that the physical lives of the elect had a actual living and vital union in Adam, before they had a actual manifestation to be born as sinners.

Now as far as our knowledge and personal experience and enjoyment is concerned of the eternal union the elect had with Christ, it was prospective in the Eternal Purpose of God; For God had chosen His people in Christ before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, and this was even before we are born sinners because of our union with Adam.

Before time began, God had predestined us to be conformed to the image of His Son [ we too being son along with Him see jn 20:17 ] that He the Son, might be the Firstborn [ which means more of the planned family were to come] of many brethren or sons..rom 8:29

The word for brethren in rom 8 29 is the greek word:

adelphos and means here in this context:

a brother, whether born of the same two parents or only of the same father or mother

Naturally it means that Christ and His brethren were all born of the same Father, God the Father..for He planned and purposed and actualized all of their coming into being..

God has predestinated us not only that we should be sanctified by the Truth, and overcomer's by Faith, but that we would be fully conformed to the Image of Christ, this was our destiny determined by God in eternity past. This conforming entailed , in order to bring about God's results, a changing of our inward man, a new nature as here:

rom 7:

22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Remember Jesus said here ps 40:
8I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.

And eph 4:

24And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

And it [ conforming to Christ] includes a changing of our outward form, that we will match the Glorified God Man in the future 1 jn 3:

2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

For He Jesus Christ is the prototype, and His chosen brethren and sisters are the mass production, for both the inward and soon to be outward changes in us, are the results of the effective work of the Holy Ghost, in conjunction with the redeeming death of the Son, which quickens us spiritually inwardly, and will yet quicken our mortal bodies..

He [ Jesus Christ] is God's Firstborn, of the Glorified Family of God, of which He purposed from eternity..

For any thoughtful person [ by the Spirit of God] this truth eliminates any lies of freewill of man, but its all to do with the Sovereign freewill of God: note: men to day will give freewill to men before to God..

For Paul writes eph 1:

5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,


And not according to the lie, that God looked into the future and saw which dead sinners were going to accept Him, and then responding to them, He predestinated them according to their will For that is just plain made up doctrine of men..

 

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One Life !

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The spiritual life of Jesus Christ and His sheep are one and eternal and always has and always will be ! He that sanctifieth [ Jesus Christ] and they which are sanctified [ whom He died for, His sheep] are all of one:

heb 2:

11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

They are all of One Father, He is the elder brother, and those He died for are his younger brothers and sisters..The children that God gave Him vs 13

And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me

They are all of One Father and of One Eternal Purpose [ eph 3:11]

John writes in 1 jn 5:

11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

No doubt John had taught the eternal union of Jesus Christ and His people, and that they had been given eternal life decretively and by the Divine Purpose as they had been chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world [ eph 1:4 & 2 tim 1:9], for this would be in accord with the record God Gave of His Son. The apostles taught that some had been ordained to eternal life, those would be them who were chosen in christ..acts 13:

48And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Only those ordained to eternal life believed..and such ordaining took place by God before the world began..

The word ordained here is the greek word tasso and means:

to put in order, to station
to place in a certain order, to arrange, to assign a place, to appoint
to assign (appoint) a thing to one
to appoint, ordain, order
to appoint on one's own responsibility or authority
to appoint mutually, i.e. agree upon
Also the word is in the perfect passive tense ! Noting something that took place in the past once and for all, and continues into the present..

The perfect tense is a rare tense because it actually accounts for action in the past, present and future at one time.

And the word is in the passive voice, meaning they did not ordain themselves, but were ordained by someone else..

This ordaining also has to do with their eternal adoption in Christ before the world began..

The word for adoption is the greek word:

huiothesia which means:

adoption, adoption as sons

a) that relationship which God was pleased to establish between himself and the Israelites in preference to all other nations

b) the nature and condition of the true disciples in Christ, who by receiving the Spirit of God into their souls become sons of God

c) the blessed state looked for in the future life after the visible return of Christ from heaven

Adoption as Sons, the word comes from two words huio= son and tithmi which means:

to set, put, place to set, fix establish

a) to set forth

b) to establish, ordain

So the idea of adoption is to set or place as Sons, and of course the ideal of ordain is also " to put in order" arrange

The elect were ordained or put in the order [ adopted] as Sons which ensured them eternal life with The Son, because of the Life they had with the Son, through their being adopted or chosen in Him before the foundation of the world..and this is why they consequently believe, having been ordain or adopted into eternal life in the Son before the world began...

This eternal life is given to all the chosen or adopted children experimentally by Jesus Christ, this is done by the Holy Ghost and He causes by their new birth, for the adopted ones to receive the adoption of Sons gal 4:5

To redeem them that were under the law, that [in order that] we might receive the adoption of sons.

All those redeemed, will receive the adoption of Sons sometime during their physical lifetime, for this evidences their election and adoption in Christ before the world began..and their eternal union with Him as well..

Of His sheep it is stated by Him :

Jn 10:

And I give unto them [His sheep] eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Jn 17:2

As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

That is, that He may give it to them experimentally, for it had been given to them decretively and by eternal purpose in Christ, before the world began..

 

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The Lord never leaves us. Do we leave the Lord?

 

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Of His sheep it is stated by Him :

Jn 10:

And I give unto them [His sheep] eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Jn 17:2

As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

That is, that He may give it to them experimentally, for it had been given to them decretively and by eternal purpose in Christ, before the world began..

Of His sheep He states, I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish; for it is not written and I give unto them eternal lives [plural], because the life given to the sheep or church is but one life, and that one life given is in the Son, and that it is hidden with Christ in God, and when He who is our life shall appear, we shall appear with Him in Glory..col 3:

When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

This life was ours before the foundation, whereas our names [ if you are elect] were written in the book of life, or chosen in Him before the world began..thats how long He has been the life of His church..

He that is our life is not so because of freewill choice or decision of man, for i could no more choose Christ to be my life, as i could choose Adam to be my life, for as I was put in Adam by Gods Sovereign Choice, So likewise I was put in Jesus Christ by Gods Sovereign choice. The Spiritual life was given to the church ages ago, it was hidden with Christ in God [ In the Divine Purpose in Christ see eph 3:11] Just as now the Glory that has been given to the church [ jn 17:22], is hidden with Christ in God, but when He shall appear, it will be manifested..

 

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The undestructable Union of Jesus christ and His church !
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The whole of Mans Salvation is wrapped up in this blessed Truth, the truth of Christ having ever died for sins is associated with this Truth, for if there was not any in union with Him when He died on the cross, then for no ones sins did He die for..

The permanent, binding and eternal union of Christ and His church, and the distinction between Adam and Christ, should be considered more here. There were two different Families in Adam and in Christ, now I believe the people are the same in each, but two different lives originate from them. The First is Natural, the Second is Spiritual. Jesus Christ existed before Adam, but Adam was the First in Manifestation in time..

Like John the baptist who from a time perspective, was manifested by physical birth before Jesus Christ, for He was six months older than He ..but John acknowledges that the man Jesus Christ existed before Him, lets read here:

Jn 1:30

This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Notice, the Man which was preferred before Him, and was before Him..

So Adam was the head and progenitor of all the natural Family of the elect of God; for For He was earthy or of the earth, and likewise Jesus Christ [ who was before Adam] was constituted the Head and Progenitor of a Spiritual Family for He was heavenly and Spiritual.

That He existed in the beginning before all things as the Head of the church is taught here by Paul.. col 1:

15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

A Family must always exist in their Father or progenitor before or prior to their development or manifestation, so it is with each head of the elect, both Adam and Christ...

 

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More on the Eternal Union of Christ and His church !

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As stated already, a family always exist in the progenitor prior to their development and manifestation, and so it is with Adam and Christ..

But briefly I am going to digress because their is another family belonging to another Father, that being the Serpent or the devil..Lets make no mistake that Christ acknowledges Him as a Father here in jn 8:

44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

The word for Father here is

pat?r which means:

generator or male ancestor

a) either the nearest ancestor: father of the corporeal nature, natural fathers, both parents

b) a more remote ancestor, the founder of a family or tribe, progenitor of a people, forefather: so Abraham is called, Jacob and David

1) fathers i.e. ancestors, forefathers, founders of a nation

c) one advanced in years, a senior

2) metaph.
a) the originator and transmitter of anything

1) the authors of a family or society of persons animated by the same spirit as himself

2) one who has infused
his own spirit into others, who actuates and governs their minds

So the Serpent had been given to be the progenitor of a people Just as Adam was and like Christ was..All of this is the Sovereign Work of God..

Also Elohim in the beginning intimated the same when speaking to the serpent shortly after the fall gen 3:


14And the LORD God said unto the serpent[Who is the devil], Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The serpent is said by Elohim to have a seed, now the word in the hebrew is:

zera` and means:

) seed, sowing, offspring
a) a sowing
b) seed
c) semen virile
d) offspring, descendants, posterity, children

So this confirms the Truth that the serpent/devil had been give a offspring or children that He was the head of..Just as Adam and Christ..

So in the beginning Adam had a seed or offspring in Him, and the Serpent had a seed or offspring in Him..both Fathers are as One with their offspring, they both act in behalf of their offspring..

Now back to Jesus Christ and Adam. The Lord Jesus Christ existed before time, as one with the Father and One with His church; there was a incorruptible seed [ spiritual ] existing in Him as the Son of God, which was the Life of the church jn 1:

4In him was life [ spiritual]; and the life was the light of men.

For He was Glorified with the Father before the world was [ see jn 17:5] and represented in Himself the elect or chosen family of God before they were made partakers of flesh and blood, for this was intimated in heb 2:

14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; Now it should be noted, that the children are recognized as such even before partaking of flesh and blood in Adam.. So too children were recognized as such before existing , with Esau and Jacob rom 9:

(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth..

For it is plain that they were the children from Gods perspective before they were ever born .. Hence the Church had a spiritual existence in Christ, a Oneness of life and being, before she had a natural existence in Adam, when He was created by the power of God from the dust of the ground in the beginning..

 

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For it is plain that they were the children from Gods perspective before they were ever born .. Hence the Church had a spiritual existence in Christ, a Oneness of life and being, before she had a natural existence in Adam, when He was created by the power of God from the dust of the ground in the beginning..

So when Adam sinned, the Elect Family sinned in Him [ rom 5:12], the Natural Existence of the chosen Family was in the loins of Adam, and so likewise the non elect reprobated family was in the loins of the Serpent or the devil, but because of sin, and for the furthering of Gods redemptive purpose, the serpents seed or family was added or grafted into the natural headship Adam, so Adam became reproducer of both the elect seed and non elect reprobated seed in their natural lives..And so, all men by nature, both elect and non elect are by nature children of wrath..For by nature their is no visible difference between the elect and non elect..

But In Christ Jesus, grace had been already given to the elect, the sons of God, for they had been blessed aforetime with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ, according as they were chosen in Him [ not into Him] before the foundation of the world..

eph 1:

3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

4For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love

2 tim 1:

9who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,[NIV]

Notice Paul writes that this grace was given us [ the chosen] in Christ Jesus, when ? before the beginning of time ..hence they had this grace before their creation in Adam in time and before their fall into sin in Adam..for we must remember, that all things were created for a redemptive from sin eternal purpose..

 

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A Family

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A Family of children will take on or partake of the nature of their Father or Progenitor, thats why peter writes this in 1 pet 1:

23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

For peter understood now that believers had been born of Two Fathers, First their natural Father which is of corruptible seed [ Adam] and secondly their Spiritual Father, Jesus [ see isa 9:6] which was incorruptible seed..

For that which is flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit..If the seed was corruptible, then the children will be corruptible [flesh]; If the seed be incorruptible the children will be the same [ see 1 jn 3:9]..

Christ and His People are one. Now many objectors of the Truth of Eternal Election say that only Jesus Christ was the elect of God, which is True, but what they blindly fail to realize is that, the Election of Jesus Christ was actually the election of His Body, His members , of which He was One with..heb 2:

11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one:

So the election of Him was the election of us, for there is no such monster as a bodiless Jesus Christ, because He is the Head of His body the church, that be the fulness of Him that filleth all in all ..[ eph 1:22,23].. So when these opposer's deny election except for Jesus Christ, they are actually in contradiction, for they just affirmed what they denied..Oh the confounding of these bitter enemies of the Truth, for the foolishness of God, is much wiser than men..

 

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when was eternall life given ?

The elect or chosen were given Eternal Life in Christ before the world began, for it was one of the Many Spiritual blessings they were blessed with ..eph 1:


3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

This is what John meant here 1 jn 5:


11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Notice, God hath given [ not offered, not made available] us eternal life, and this life is in His Son [ Christ]..

Now, pay close attention, When we are born into this world, it is according to Gods [ not mans freewill] set time [season] and purpose..ecc 3:


1To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2A time to be born, and a time to die;

And it is evidenced that we had a being or union with Adam in the beginning, which meant, that in Him [ Adam] God had given us physical, earthly life .. Being born into the world [ at Gods time and season for us] did not make us the Natural Sons and Daughters of Adam, that occurred in our original creation in him as his seed or posterity, for it was that which constituted the relationship, and consequently, our being born physically and made manifest.

Basically since we had already been given physical life in Adam, it was only a matter of time that the physical life would be made manifest and become active..


Now the same thing is True by those who have eternal life, who are believing on Jesus Christ, for believing on Him is indicative of having been given eternal life in Him..

Jn 5:

24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Jesus is saying here, He that is hearing my word and believing Gods testimony from Him, has everlasting life..for the implication is, having eternal life dwelling in them at that time, is why they were Hearing Jesus voice or word and believing His testimony that it was From God...

And John writes in His epistle this 1 jn 5:

1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God:

Again this is saying, believing that Jesus is the Christ, is evidence of having already been born of God..

Believeth here is present tense [now believing ] but is born of God is perfect tense.. Strong's greek describes the perfect tense:

"The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated."

Being born of God was something that happened in the past prior to the believing in the present..so the believing is logically the effect or evidence of the having been born of God...and being born of God and experimentally having eternal life are the same.. The New Birth is the communication of Eternal life to those it was given to in the Son before the foundation of the world..

John teaches this to in His gospel john 1 :


12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Those, the as many as received Him, even them that believed on His Name..

vs 13 Had been born of God, thats what caused the effects of vs 12..

And being born of God means one had eternal life communicated to them from above by the Holy Ghost...

 

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This life is in His Son

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1 jn 5:


11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Just as physical life was in His Son Adam lk 3:

38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Eternal Life was in His Son Jesus Christ..

And we know that we could not put ourselves in Adam, so likewise, we could not put ourselves in Christ, the Son of God..

You can only had been chosen in Adam and likewise you can only had been chosen in Christ..

Each subsequent birth we partake of, whether physical and Natural or Heavenly and Spiritual gives proof or evidence that each life had already been given us in that particular head..

As our Natural birth makes manifest a natural relationship we had in Adam at creation, so likewise, our spiritual birth makes manifest a spiritual relationship we had in Christ when He was brought forth of the father before the world began..

The difference between the vital union we had with Christ the Son of God and Experimental Union in time.

God is pleased that the elect first experience their vital union with Adam, and then afterward their eternal union with Christ is to be experienced, first the natural, then the spiritual..

The elect are born physically into the world experimentally estranged from God, enemies in our minds with wicked works, and are by nature like others children of wrath..

But God has a set time to favour each child of Zion [ see ps 102:13], to be quickened, made alive, and to be made to enjoy experimentally all the Spiritual blessings He blessed them with, where ? In Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus, when ? before the foundation of the world..

So then all the spiritual advantages we partake of in time, such as regeneration, faith, and fellowship with God through Christ, with the Holy Ghost, other believers, these were all spiritual blessings given us before the world began, by our Union with the Son of God..

He that hath the Son [ by election] hath life, but he that hath not the Son [ non elect] hath not life..but the wrath of God abideth upon them..

 

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The sheep of Christ who are One with Him, and who were one with Him when He died in their behalf for their sins, that were imputed to Him and not them, the sheep in time are made partakers experimentally [ by the Holy Ghost Jn 16:8] to individually feel, to participate and have fellowship with their Head, in receiving the sentence of the Law, and being released from it, that is to say, in our being [or conscience] we are arraigned and convicted of our sin and transgression of Gods Law [ that was laid on Christ] to feel the condemnation of it, and then to receive by faith the sentence of Justification [in our minds] on the account of Christ obedience made to Gods Law, such obedience that culminated in His death in their place and stead.

They have their Justification declared from the very Throne of God, by His resurrection from the dead as their representative and Shepherd [ heb 13:20] and their participation in this is witnessed in them by the Holy Spirit sent to them.

It should be duly noted as well, that since Christ was the Lamb slain from the foundation [ rev 13:8], its only reasonable to conclude that He had been arraigned in Gods Court, and had the sins of all the sheep placed on His Suretyship and Account, from the foundation, this before they had yet been created in Adam...
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1 pet 1:

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

The latin vulgate translates this verse:

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy hath regenerated us unto a lively hope, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead:

When Jesus Christ rose from the dead, He did not rise as a private Individual, but as the Head, the Great Shepherd of the sheep heb 13:

20Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

This means, that all the sheep chosen in Him before the foundation, they too rose with Him from the dead, and when they receive the New Birth or regeneration, this is evidence of them having been in Christ their Head Shepherd when God raised Him from the dead [BTW this is the First resurrection in rev 20:5-6]


Thats why Peter says we [ the elect according to the foreknowledge of God] have been begotten again or regenerated to a lively hope by [ instrumental means ] the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

 

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The Firstborn ones !

The bible teaches that, the Head of the Sheep was begotten from the dead, and the same act that beget the head, beget the body as well.

col 1:

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

rev 1:

5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Jesus being the firstborn of the dead, means His body, His church is too..

Heb 12:


23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

In the greek, Firstborn is in the plural, and reads firstborns or firstborn ones ! That is because the Church , Christ members were begotten from the dead when He was..They are Firstborns because of their Union with the Firstborn..
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