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jasonc yep, gotta have the space for all that. For $20 my mechanic will mount and balance tires I get from somewhere else. When I had the blown tire I just let him get what they have which is better than what I had anyways.
 
MayGodHeal said:
jasonc yep, gotta have the space for all that. For $20 my mechanic will mount and balance tires I get from somewhere else. When I had the blown tire I just let him get what they have which is better than what I had anyways.
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Not space .just the machine . A 50-50 or 40-40.0r a proper tire machine that won't damage my rims .a neighbor has a portable car lift that enables him to do brakes etc .I have a coworker who has a tire shop in his garage in fellsemere .one machine ,lift and balancer. I simply don't have land for the type of garage he has but I could house the other two .ah the Mexican tire shop I will be at early this morning ,no lift at all .just the two machines and a floor jack
 
jasonc said:
Indeed and I watched them not that long ago and I missed things in that show.

Ie the last words of dinobot ,the depth of his character.and of course waspinator being even more humourous.
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Dinobot is an amazing character. Now Silverbolt, such a boy scout with an awesome animal form. :p
 
I'm not really a fan of vehicles with too much electrics. Like my brother's vehicle when it went in limp mode over a stupid faulty sensor so we trapped miles away and have to get towed just for a faulty sensor. Lol.

Not to mention what happens in a full EV if simply the battery dies?. Is it a easy replacement and cost?
 
King Dan of Great the 1st that's what I'd call over engineering. It's like the check engine light that doesnt go off because something with the emissions is wrong. And in some cases it's the fuel cap not sealing. It gets fun when the vehicle gets older.
 
King Dan of Great the 1st said:
I'm not really a fan of vehicles with too much electrics. Like my brother's vehicle when it went in limp mode over a stupid faulty sensor so we trapped miles away and have to get towed just for a faulty sensor.
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Or how I hit a rock on the road that I didn't see in time to react and it punched a tiny hole in my oil pan and left me stranded in the middle of nowhere and had to be towed just for a small hole.
 
MayGodHeal said:
It's like the check engine light that doesnt go off because something with the emissions is wrong.
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You'd rather not know when something is wrong? Like my story above. I am thankful for the oil pressure sensor. It saved me from an engine rebuild.
 
WIP said:
You'd rather not know when something is wrong? Like my story above. I am thankful for the oil pressure sensor. It saved me from an engine rebuild.
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I don't pay thousands to fix the tiny holes of an evap system.

In your case you got lucky ,most of the time when that low pressure light is on the engine is toasted
 
jasonc said:
I don't pay thousands to fix the tiny holes of an evap system.

In your case you got lucky ,most of the time when that low pressure light is on the engine is toasted
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Not necessarily. When the oil level drops enough that the pump begins to suck air, the pressure drops. An engine can run for a little while without any oil pressure at all. It isn't going to freeze up immediately. I had a vehicle that burned oil really bad when I was young. I always had to add oil when I filled with gasoline. There were times when I'd see the oil pressure light blink on and off or illuminate dimly indicating to me that my oil level was getting too low and the pump was probably sucking air.

My farm tractor oil light will flicker if I idle the engine all the way down below 1,000 rpm after a hard day of plowing on a warm day and it is equipped with an oil cooler. It's one of the reasons the owner's manual says it is important to idle above 1,000 rpm for a couple minutes to cool down before turning it off. The oil, 15w-40, gets very warm and loses enough viscosity that it needs time to cool.
 
WIP said:
Not necessarily. When the oil level drops enough that the pump begins to suck air, the pressure drops. An engine can run for a little while without any oil pressure at all. It isn't going to freeze up immediately. I had a vehicle that burned oil really bad when I was young. I always had to add oil when I filled with gasoline. There were times when I'd see the oil pressure light blink on and off or illuminate dimly indicating to me that my oil level was getting too low and the pump was probably sucking air.

My farm tractor oil light will flicker if I idle the engine all the way down below 1,000 rpm after a hard day of plowing on a warm day and it is equipped with an oil cooler. It's one of the reasons the owner's manual says it is important to idle above 1,000 rpm for a couple minutes to cool down before turning it off. The oil, 15w-40, gets very warm and loses enough viscosity that it needs time to cool.
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Like I said luck .imagine your are driving at 70mph .oil plug falls out and you notice that light in five minutes .you might be that lucky.my truck doing 70 it's at 2500 rpms in fifth gear .

Diesel is a different creature .
 
jasonc said:
Like I said luck .imagine your are driving at 70mph .oil plug falls out and you notice that light in five minutes .you might be that lucky.my truck doing 70 it's at 2500 rpms in fifth gear .

Diesel is a different creature .
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I understand what you're saying but I don't call it luck that I noticed the oil light quickly because keeping an eye on the instrument panel for warnings is what a driver is supposed to do. According to research I've done, a new engine that has never had oil in it can potentially run for up to about 30 minutes, depending on how hard it is run, before failing. An engine that suddenly loses the oil isn't completely devoid of lubricant so I would expect the residual lube would allow it to function for more than five minutes. You are correct that had I not noticed the oil pressure warning and shut down the engine, it wouldn't take real long for the engine to have a catastrophic failure. At any rate, my point was that if it wasn't for the low oil pressure sensor, my situation would have been much, much worse.

This reminds me of some situations I encountered at work. I was an electrical designer and my primary focus was modifications and upgrades to existing legacy equipment in the field. It never ceased to humor me when customers would request redundant product detection switches in case one sensor failed. My first thought was, what if the redundant switch failed too? We purposely designed the sensor circuits to be failsafe so that if the sensor failed, it failed in a non-operative condition so the machinery would not function unless the sensor was repaired. We even offered programming that would validate switch function on every machine cycle.
 
WIP said:
I understand what you're saying but I don't call it luck that I noticed the oil light quickly because keeping an eye on the instrument panel for warnings is what a driver is supposed to do. According to research I've done, a new engine that has never had oil in it can potentially run for up to about 30 minutes, depending on how hard it is run, before failing. An engine that suddenly loses the oil isn't completely devoid of lubricant so I would expect the residual lube would allow it to function for more than five minutes. You are correct that had I not noticed the oil pressure warning and shut down the engine, it wouldn't take real long for the engine to have a catastrophic failure. At any rate, my point was that if it wasn't for the low oil pressure sensor, my situation would have been much, much worse.

This reminds me of some situations I encountered at work. I was an electrical designer and my primary focus was modifications and upgrades to existing legacy equipment in the field. It never ceased to humor me when customers would request redundant product detection switches in case one sensor failed. My first thought was, what if the redundant switch failed too? We purposely designed the sensor circuits to be failsafe so that if the sensor failed, it failed in a non-operative condition so the machinery would not function unless the sensor was repaired. We even offered programming that would validate switch function on every machine cycle.
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Older cars with check engines lights won't kick on a code for low oil pressure .

Newer cars will not restart once off .
Unless the check engine flashes or the engine overheats ,or transmission slip the light being will be a secondary issue emissions or a slight miss.

I usually see loose gas caps, thermostat stuck open ,O2!sensor out of range after the cat .

My Nissan lists an egr code . Unless it really lean I won't risk a head ache of a new intake manifold .likely I will have it brazed rather then try to remove it .
 
I don't know what's worse. A faulty sensor that locks your vehicle down and can't do anything or a warning light that doesn't even work.

I mean I ran out of oil and the light didn't even come on. What's the point in having a oil light if it doesn't even come on when low. Nearly seized my car.
 
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WIP said:
You'd rather not know when something is wrong? Like my story above. I am thankful for the oil pressure sensor. It saved me from an engine rebuild.
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That's more of a reason not to use the same check engine lights for evap codes. Though your oil pressure light would hopefully go on. I prefer an actual gauge and that is often done by pressure, not by computer. Even then a redundancy for not having enough oil pressure should have additional check points.

But it's a big difference between oil pressure and a system that's constantly giving you error codes.
 
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