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Bible Study Ever-present Galatianism

for_his_glory said:
Israel lost her right to be called Gods chosen people as they fell into idolatry worshipping other gods as they allowed themselves to fall from Gods grace as they followed the lust of their own hearts,
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HI FHG - Thanks for the laborious reply! I believe one of the most difficult subjects to discuss is that of Israel and God's plans for them, because Scripture is not always clear concerning His dealings with them. One concept I'm convinced about is that He is still going to bless the remaining nation of this people during the Millennium.
 
Christ_empowered said:
I think Jethro was saying that trying to do the good works thing would be preferable to hyper-grace (also an error). I can see that. I think its probably easier to work with people who are trying to earn salvation than with people who don't even acknowledge their sins and just use grace as a cover to keep on goin' in what they want to do.
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You got it,, dude. :thumbsup
 
netchaplain said:
Hi Malachi - I believe there are more who have an insufficient understanding of this subject than there are of those who do.
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Sometimes we need more than the scriptures to understand that of history when it comes to studying about Israel. Scripture is where we start then researching historical events brings us facts and then the Holy Spirit brings it all home to our understanding.
 
It's within our nature to be legalistic. However,we should strive to be pleasing and fruitful fir God as evidence to be shown of said repentance. So often we are the opposite of what we claim and sound just like the sinner next door.

I'm guilty of this.
 
I read somewhere that, like jasonc said, its human nature to try to earn salvation. I think some denominations do kind of bring that out in people, more so than others. I keep reminding myself: God is Love, in part because...well, yes, its true, but also I've had my fair share of old school Pentecostal fire-and-brimstone preaching. That kinda stuff sticks with you...
 
We should strive for Holiness knowing that by it pleases Jesus, but not for the reason to be saved .Yea,rather because we are saved! We also complicate the way to salvation
 
for_his_glory said:
Sometimes we need more than the scriptures to understand that of history when it comes to studying about Israel. Scripture is where we start then researching historical events brings us facts and then the Holy Spirit brings it all home to our understanding.
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I agree, that's part of the reason why I use the Bible commentator I use, he is well experienced in all of the Jewish writings.
 
jasonc said:
We should strive for Holiness knowing that by it pleases Jesus, but not for the reason to be saved .Yea,rather because we are saved! We also complicate the way to salvation
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Hi JC – As you show, holiness is highly significant, which I believe contains two branches, inward and outward. The inward is that which cannot be effected nor equaled by man (nor is it in varying degrees) because it derives from Christ unto us by way of the “new man,” which is created “according to the image of Him who created him” (Col 3:10) and it is “created in righteousness and true holiness” (Eph 4:24).

The outward holiness (is in varying degrees) is that which derives from the inward and it involves the thinking, doing and speaking (i.e. 1Pet 1:15) of those who are holy. The inward is a fruit of salvation and the outward is a manifestation of the inward.

I believe the degree of outward holiness is commensurate with the degree in which we exercise faith in Christ for our standing in sanctification, etc.
 
jasonc said:
An orthodox preterist.as is Adam clarke who was around the time of the American Revolution.
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Not to give you an appearance of being unconcerned about your comment, but I want you to know that my evaluation of theologians is not much influenced by their choice of eschatology, of which is a category that Scripture is not directly clear, which allows for numerous varying views within this system of study.
 
netchaplain said:
Not to give you an appearance of being unconcerned about your comment, but I want you to know that my evaluation of theologians is not much influenced by their choice of eschatology, of which is a category that Scripture is not directly clear, which allows for numerous varying views within this system of study.
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Just making an observation. That camp tends to be that read up on the tanach.
 
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