False Prophet

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So the "He who must not be named" is the Messiah "a leader/savior of a particular group/cause" and this "is according to the working of Satan" , and the Messiah "He who must not be named" proclaims the new Name of the only God/Satan at the temple mount in Jerusalem where the Dome of Rock now sits? The False Prophet gives them the voice/internet power to speak/preach their New Gospel? Then 3 frogs show up "out of their mouths" aka demons to gather together the nations for the final battle to destroy Israel. How many nations around Israel are involved in this war?

God does not dwell in temples made by hand. Any supposed temple in Jerusalem will not factor other than as a side show of the collective, if there even is any.

Acts 17:24
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

The temple in these equations IS the temple of man.

I might say that what may come at the end is a form of collective insanity of the flesh, where everyone turns against each others, as noted by the prophets in the O.T.

Ezekiel 38:21
And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

IF we pay close attentions this sword is already quite ACTIVE in the church.

Haggai 2:22
And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.

Jeremiah 34:17
Therefore thus saith the Lord; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour: behold, I proclaim a liberty for you, saith the Lord, to the sword, to the pestilence, and to the famine; and I will make you to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

A person can go to just about any church on the face of the earth today, and hear them "eternally killing or destroying" other believers. It's the common practice among almost every sect. And it is the working of Mystery Babylon in their hearts.

Rev. 18:
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

 

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The temple is man. Satan and his own sit currently as "rulers" "kings of the earth" over the flesh of every spiritually blinded person. Acts 26:18, 2 Cor. 4:4.

Speak for yourself.

My body is not the temple of Satan.

Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
1 Corinthians 6:19

The man of sin is just that, a man.

A man, can not occupy another man's spirit, much less a multitude of people.

...so that he sits as God in the temple of God,

Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4


This man of sin is revealed as the foretold of false messiah.

The way he is revealed, is by going to the Temple of God, in Jerusalem, and proclaiming himself as the Messiah..., as God.

He will perform miracles after the working of Satan, and convince many that he is the Messiah.

This man of sin, lawless one is an individual person.

6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2:6-12



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Speak for yourself.

My body is not the temple of Satan.

I tend not to trust anyone who can't fess up in honesty to the scriptures on this count:

Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

No one escapes this contrary state in their own flesh. If they claim otherwise, they just aren't paying attentions.

 

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The mystery of iniquity is collective to the flesh of all mankind. Yes, even "our sin" is in fact 'of the devil.' 1 John 3:8

Read it and weep.

You continue to misquote the bible, and then display the arrogance that is behind this error. ["read it and weep"]

I have never seen you actually write out this verse, but only state your "version" of what you "think" this verse says, and tag it with a scripture reference.

Here is what 1 John 3:8 actually says.

He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. 1 John 3:8

This does not say "sin" is of the devil.

This verse says "he" who sins is of the devil.

The person who sins is of the devil.

This verse does not say:

• the devil is sin
• sin is the devil

He who sins... is of the devil.


JLB

 

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You continue to misquote the bible, and then display the arrogance that is behind this error. ["read it and weep"]

I'm not falling for any lie that says other than this:

Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

I know exactly what I wait for in Christ. And that is to DITCH this fact.

 

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I tend not to trust anyone who can't fess up in honesty to the scriptures on this count:

Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

No one escapes this contrary state in their own flesh. If they claim otherwise, they just aren't paying attentions.

Here is what the scripture also says:

I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:16

Our victory is walk in the Spirit, to be filled with the Spirit, and to exercise our God given dominion over sin, that desires to enslave us.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:12-13

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For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. Romans 6:14



JLB

 

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I'm not falling for any lie that says other than this:

Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

I know exactly what I wait for in Christ. And that is to DITCH this fact.

11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. Romans 8:11


For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. Romans 6:14

 

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Here is what the scripture also says:

I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:16

You read that and somehow, in your head, you think you have NO LUSTS OF THE FLESH.

I read it entirely the opposite, that YES, the flesh does retain this resistance to the Spirit in a contrary and against the Spirit condition, regardless.

A simple difference. One of us sees the reality of it and will NOT justify that working.

The other, not so much.

 

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I know exactly what I wait for in Christ. And that is to DITCH this fact.

Until our body is changed, we are to: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:16


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You read that and somehow, in your head, you have NO LUSTS OF THE FLESH.

...For if you live according to the flesh you will die;

If we walk in the Spirit and by the Spirit we "put to death" the deeds of the body, WE WILL LIVE.

13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Romans 8:13



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...For if you live according to the flesh you will die;

If we walk in the Spirit and by the Spirit we "put to death" the deeds of the body, WE WILL LIVE.

13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Romans 8:13

JLB

You or any other can claim the contrary to the Spirit, against the Spirit flesh doesn't exist because that flesh is soooo obedient. To me, that is the essence of the internal deception of/in the FLESH.

Yes, we do have a CONTRARY and AGAINST the SPIRIT temple, made of vile flesh. There is no getting around this fact by works.

To reign OVER does not mean eradication.

 

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When we understand that we DO have our own vile flesh temple, we are actually turned to Gods Judgments against same, understanding that adverse judgments are FOR US.

And on that ground of fact, we understand why judgment comes FIRST to the believers, in anticipation of our CHANGE.

1 Peter 4:17
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

When we OBEY, we do not lie about our VILE TEMPLE, and it's need for PERMANENT CHANGE by the Power of Christ.

Rather than RUNNING from Judgment, we are to stand, FIRST in LINE.

Yes, Gods Adverse Judgments will fall upon the VILE temple. Looking to some brick and mortar job in Jerusalem and some supposed spiritually blinded nitwit person is not going to see the blindsiding of the present vile temple, which imho, has been well under way for quite some time.

God has promised that The Throne will be established in MERCY, and it will be so precisely on the ground of our NEED of same.

Isaiah 16:5
And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

It will not be a time to DRAW BACK, in fear and unbelief. In fact it never is that time.

 

[Fusion77]

God does not dwell in temples made by hand. Any supposed temple in Jerusalem will not factor other than as a side show of the collective, if there even is any.

Acts 17:24
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

The temple in these equations IS the temple of man.

I might say that what may come at the end is a form of collective insanity of the flesh, where everyone turns against each others, as noted by the prophets in the O.T.

Ezekiel 38:21
And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

IF we pay close attentions this sword is already quite ACTIVE in the church.

Haggai 2:22
And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.

Jeremiah 34:17
Therefore thus saith the Lord; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour: behold, I proclaim a liberty for you, saith the Lord, to the sword, to the pestilence, and to the famine; and I will make you to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

A person can go to just about any church on the face of the earth today, and hear them "eternally killing or destroying" other believers. It's the common practice among almost every sect. And it is the working of Mystery Babylon in their hearts.

Rev. 18:
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Haggai 2:22
And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.

This veiw that you hold will be passing. The events you have quoted in Haggai 2:22 are just around the corner. This does not represent the Great and terrible Day of The Lord. In the wake of this, you will see a physical temple standing. Hold on to your beliefs now if you want. Just be ready to make an about face when you see a catastrophic event take place in the near future. The one described in Haggai 2:21-22.

 

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This veiw that you hold will be passing. The events you have quoted in Haggai 2:22 are just around the corner. This does not represent the Great and terrible Day of The Lord. In the wake of this, you will see a physical temple standing. Hold on to your beliefs now if you want. Just be ready to make an about face when you see a catastrophic event take place in the near future. The one described in Haggai 2:21-22.

The temple to be cleansed is our own. You or any are welcome to look to a brick and mortar job, thinking God gives 2 cents worth when that isn't the case. Never was.

Luke 17:20
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

It may very well be a fixation of the flesh on an external temple that will play a part in end time deceptions. I wouldn't rule it out. But consider it an unlikely angle, entirely too obvious to fool anyone but the blinded, fixated on external observations.

Nobody perceived THE TEMPLE of Jesus, coming to the brick and mortar temple, in resistance, and ultimately, destruction of that temple and the scattering of the people.

Jesus will NOT be ruling in a brick and mortar job in Jerusalem.

 

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Jesus will NOT be ruling in a brick and mortar job in Jerusalem.

Oh...who said that Jesus will be ruling in the "tribulation" temple? The one that will soon be built.

The bible tells us the man of sin will sit in this temple and claim to be God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Nasb

3Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

 

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Oh...who said that Jesus will be ruling in the "tribulation" temple? The one that will soon be built.

The bible tells us the man of sin will sit in this temple and claim to be God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Nasb

3Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

The "ruler" of the flesh is in the flesh temple. It's not some other guy.

Here is the picture Paul gave of his own flesh temple in this regards:

2 Corinthians 12:7
And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

This flesh temple ruler should be easily perceived by anyone in the myriad of ways that the contrary against the Spirit flesh operates.

Paul gives an identical example here:

Romans 9:
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

and again, here:

Romans 11:
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

The same sight is shown in Acts 26:18 and 2 Cor. 4:4

This "flesh ruler" is easily recognized by temptations, lusts, deceptions in the flesh, and ultimately sin dwelling in the body, evil present with us in our FLESH temple. Romans 7.

Paul advises to purge ourselves of the other in order to be useful. 2 Tim. 2:20-21

We don't have far to look to see the issues of the flesh. These issues have exactly ZERO to do with a brick and mortar job in Jerusalem or "some other bad guy."

 

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and yes, God IS willing to BRING His wrath on the ruler of the flesh temple.

We're just not used to looking at the facts of it 'cause it's too close to home.

 

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Temple is a word. In Acts it's just a word. It's a simple word.
It's a word that doesn't require an act of congress to declare it's meaning.
That only occurs if it's the word "IS" and there is confusion created by lies.
There is but 1 Temple Location on the earth that YHWH has dwelt in, not God.
Our Body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, not God.
The word God is an english word that was made up.
There are many names of god throughout the world so
Jesus said to pray "Our Father in heaven, how Holy be your Name".
For there to be a Father there has to be Sons/Daughters!
How "Holy be thou Name" but no name is given, pretty smart if ya ask me!
This is the Antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. <-Islam
Jesus Christ is the Truth and the Light! By HIS NAME only shall you be saved!

 

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Temple is a word. In Acts it's just a word. It's a simple word.
It's a word that doesn't require an act of congress to declare it's meaning.
That only occurs if it's the word "IS" and there is confusion created by lies.
There is but 1 Temple Location on the earth that YHWH has dwelt in, not God.
Our Body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, not God.
The word God is an english word that was made up.
There are many names of god throughout the world so
Jesus said to pray "Our Father in heaven, how Holy be your Name".
For there to be a Father there has to be Sons/Daughters!
How "Holy be thou Name" but no name is given, pretty smart if ya ask me!
This is the Antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. <-Islam
Jesus Christ is the Truth and the Light! By HIS NAME only shall you be saved!

Ehh, that's alright. I'll stick to what the bible original language and translators have provided.

 

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Here is the picture Paul gave of his own flesh temple in this regards:

2 Corinthians 12:7
And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

What are you talking about? Have you read the first part of 2 Corinthians 12? It's about Paul having been caught up to the 3rd heaven to receive a God given Revelation. So he wouldn't be puffed up with pride, he was given some sort of an ailment (thorn in the flesh), So he would keep himself humble and not puffed up.