GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Oh they were commanded alright, and properly warned of bad things. But it really doesn't matter that they knew what God said, if they don't believe God. The beguiling however, was obviously beyond their comprehension, since they did eat.
These are some thoughts I have. I believe the Kingdom of Darkness is built on one single subtle lie that has been unknowingly accepted as true, and it resides in the subconscious. Other lies have been built upon this accepted premise, which makes it hard to see.
And this is my sincere concern regarding freewill doctrine. Many people still don't see the lie Satan said. Ask someone, "What is the mistake that Adam and Eve made?" The answer given is predominantly, "They disobeyed God and ate of the forbidden fruit."... Notice that few will ever say, "They believed God was a lying tyrant who subjugates those under him by keeping them ignorant through fear of death". Nobody even answers to any effect that acknowledges, that Adam and Eve were deceived into believing something that was not true, other than Paul. 2 Corinthians 11:3.
Now I find it true, that there is no true repentance if you're not actually sorry for what you did. Moreover, if you don't even know what you did wrong, you can't be sorry for it. Of course it is easy to now say that we are sorry for disobeying God, since we were removed from paradise, and now experience hardship and death. But it's kind of like saying it's wrong to steal because you go to jail. So if I were to put my self in God's shoes, I feel that I would much rather hear someone say, "We are sorry we ever doubted your Loving Faithful Character, wherein you have always looked out for us without fail"... That, to me, would be a true repentance from the original sin.
Freewill doctrine instead focuses on our taking responsibility for our actions, based on the assertion that we choose freely. It sounds nice, but it draws attention away from the real issue of being blinded through deception. For one thing, it seems that no one considers that we cannot choose correctly when we are deceived. Consquently in that mindset, any attempt to excuse Adam and Eve as deceived, is seen as an attempt to escape responsibility for one's sinful actions. I can see how the hypocritical self righteous spirit is based on this. And I believe this mirrors what Paul called righteousness through the works of the law.
So it is that we can excuse and accuse. Freewill doctrine tends to frown on excusing peoples actions on any pretense of being deceived and weak in the flesh. Freewill doesn't approve of blaming Satan, seeing that as an excuse and giving power to Satan, who is ironically the accuser. Freewill belief is so adamant of a closed mind, that it concludes that we are just robots if we can't choose freely to sin or not. The lie of darkness is it pretends to be the light. I must stop now. This post is already too long and I could go on and on. Matthew 7:1.
Blessings back to you!
This is all very interesting.
How do you feel about this?
If we DON'T have free will, doesn't that mean that God is responsible for original sin and every other sin we commit since we cannot really choose NOT to sin?
Do you suppose God planned from the beginning of time to send His only Son to die for us because He felt guilty for ever having created us in the first place?
And, what IS satan's lie? It can't be as simple as that we'd be like God or that we surely wouldn't die, can it? You must be headed someplace else with this...
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