Getting Saved in the Catholic Church

[GodsGrace]

How does a person get saved in the CC?
If a baby is baptized, is he automatically saved?
Are Catholics saved by faith or by works?

What do You dislike about salvation for Catholics, or, at least, what you Think saves them?



Jethro Bodine

 

[Jethro Bodine]

How does a person get saved in the CC?

Faith and works.
Catholics define works done in faith as faith itself to justify their claim that a person is saved by both faith and works.

If a baby is baptized, is he automatically saved?

Of course not.
Does Catholic doctrine say they are? I do not know.
I just know a young person is unaccountable for the sins he commits up until the time he becomes accountable for those sins.

Are Catholics saved by faith or by works?

Catholics think they are saved by both. Thus their resistance to Luther's 'righteousness apart from works' teaching (what many call 'faith alone', confusing it with James' 'faith alone' argument). 'Righteousness apart from works' meaning one receives the righteousness of God through faith all by itself apart from and without aid or requirement of works to secure that righteousness. Just as that was true for our father Abraham, our example of justification apart from works. He did NOTHING to be declared righteous by God except receive God's promise by believing it.

What do You dislike about salvation for Catholics, or, at least, what you Think saves them?
It's a works salvation religion, plain and simple.

If a person receives the perfect righteousness of God solely by believing God's promise of forgiveness (and they do) then works have no role remaining to play in the receiving of a righteousness that person already has by faith. The righteousness that one receives entirely by faith does not suddenly become conditional on works after you receive it. It remains in a person entirely and solely by the same faith that secured it in the first place.

 

[Mungo]

How does a person get saved in the CC?
If a baby is baptized, is he automatically saved?

Yes, providing the correct form and matter are used.
wondering - I know you will know this but for others a reminder that the Catholic Church does not teach OSAS.

Are Catholics saved by faith or by works?

That depends on what definition of works you are using.

But basically Jesus said "He who believes and is baptized will be saved" (Mk 16:16)
That's faith + baptism = salvation.
That applies to babies as well as adults.

And before anyone points out that babies cannot believe, the faith is provided by the parents who make a profession of faith at the baptism and promise to bring up the child in the practice of the faith.