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Giving up smoking?
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farouk
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
I'd rather not say if I do or do not smoke as there is enough judgmental people in forum world that would just love to chastise one who does smoke and for them, sorry this fleshly body is not the temple of God as it is our spirit that joins with Gods Spirit in unity that is the temple where the Holy Spirit dwells in all of us that are in Christ. Smoking is not good for a person, but yet again it is ones own choice to make.
Mark 7:
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
I'd rather not say if I do or do not smoke as there is enough judgmental people in forum world that would just love to chastise one who does smoke and for them, sorry this fleshly body is not the temple of God as it is our spirit that joins with Gods Spirit in unity that is the temple where the Holy Spirit dwells in all of us that are in Christ. Smoking is not good for a person, but yet again it is ones own choice to make.
Mark 7:
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
farouk
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
for his glory:
Yes, thanks for this comment; and I don't know if you saw my most recent post, above; (we posted at about the same time!) I certainly don't believe in stigmatizing those who do choose to smoke. I used to; and it's a way some people manage to relieve stress.
The passage in Mark 7 is one I often have quoted in a wider context; it's the antidote to legalism, I think. Defilement is from within, not without.
Your comment is very sensible; thanks again.
Blessings.
for his glory:
Yes, thanks for this comment; and I don't know if you saw my most recent post, above; (we posted at about the same time!) I certainly don't believe in stigmatizing those who do choose to smoke. I used to; and it's a way some people manage to relieve stress.
The passage in Mark 7 is one I often have quoted in a wider context; it's the antidote to legalism, I think. Defilement is from within, not without.
Your comment is very sensible; thanks again.
Blessings.
Claudya
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
After ten years of nicotine addiction (most of it cigaret smoking, some of it nicotine gums) I completely quit on september 6. I still crave cigarets every now and then, but for the most part I think I made it.
I had been trying to quit and failed so many times, another humiliating loss would have been too much, so it was a now or never thing; and this time I won.
After ten years of nicotine addiction (most of it cigaret smoking, some of it nicotine gums) I completely quit on september 6. I still crave cigarets every now and then, but for the most part I think I made it.
I had been trying to quit and failed so many times, another humiliating loss would have been too much, so it was a now or never thing; and this time I won.
Claudya
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
That's awesome, congratulations.
Although "one per day" sounds like torture.
I've voted Yes,more or less because i'm down to one per day and that one will soon be NIL!!
(Hopefully!!)
Mark
That's awesome, congratulations.
Although "one per day" sounds like torture.
farouk
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
Congrats, guys, on your quitting. I do think it's preferable.
It's good for folk to remember, that the mere absence of smoking doesn't in itself contribute to some kind of supposed, superior spirituality. (This is why for_his_glory's comments, above, quoting Mark 7, are so apt, in fact.)
PS: The preacher Spurgeon used to smoke, btw. This is not to commend smoking, but it's as a matter of historical fact, to put it into perspective. And apparently before the American Civil War it was rather widespread for many women to smoke on Sundays after coming out of church, especially in the South. Again, this is not to commend or promote it, but it needs to be taken as a matter of historical fact.
Congrats, guys, on your quitting. I do think it's preferable.
It's good for folk to remember, that the mere absence of smoking doesn't in itself contribute to some kind of supposed, superior spirituality. (This is why for_his_glory's comments, above, quoting Mark 7, are so apt, in fact.)
PS: The preacher Spurgeon used to smoke, btw. This is not to commend smoking, but it's as a matter of historical fact, to put it into perspective. And apparently before the American Civil War it was rather widespread for many women to smoke on Sundays after coming out of church, especially in the South. Again, this is not to commend or promote it, but it needs to be taken as a matter of historical fact.
Claudya
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
LOL I never, not even for a moment, thought my spirituality to be superior just because I quit smoking.
Maybe my physical health will be superior. ;) But that's not gonna get me closer to God in any way. It's not gonna cleanse my soul or make me a better person.
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. (Matthew 7:1,2) He's right, not only spiritually, but also psychologically: People's judgement of you usually says more about them than it says about you. So don't let it get to you, ignore them as good as they can. Or, better, pray for their judgemental Pharisee souls to be saved. ;)
LOL I never, not even for a moment, thought my spirituality to be superior just because I quit smoking.
Maybe my physical health will be superior. ;) But that's not gonna get me closer to God in any way. It's not gonna cleanse my soul or make me a better person.
For_his_glory, you are right there are many judgemental people around, but they are only judging themselves.for_his_glory said:
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. (Matthew 7:1,2) He's right, not only spiritually, but also psychologically: People's judgement of you usually says more about them than it says about you. So don't let it get to you, ignore them as good as they can. Or, better, pray for their judgemental Pharisee souls to be saved. ;)
farouk
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
mark:
Sounds like you got a really good deal there! (Maybe it wasn't a deal, though...)
Sounds like your wife didn't and doesn't smoke, then.
Blessings.
mark:
Sounds like you got a really good deal there! (Maybe it wasn't a deal, though...)
Sounds like your wife didn't and doesn't smoke, then.
Blessings.
MarkG
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
I don't really know why i even have one when it would be just as easy to have none!!
But God willing, i'll quit for good!:yes
Mark
Thanks Claudya!That's awesome, congratulations.
Although "one per day" sounds like torture.
I don't really know why i even have one when it would be just as easy to have none!!
But God willing, i'll quit for good!:yes
Mark
Davies
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
Good afternoon,
Smoking... For those of you who smoke, my opinion is not a reflection on your spirituality. When I smell a cigarette, the initial lighting of it smells really good, but then it takes on this stale, detestable smell. I can't stand it. I did smoke for a short period of time, but, when I couldn't breath properly, I found it easy to give up. What I found infinitely more difficult to give up was chewing tobacco. I quit over a year ago after having quite for several years. I found it easy to quit this last time, because of a few things: my view that tobacco was part of the old man, my desire to see my daughter grow up, and stage 4 throat cancer. I by no means condemn anyone who smokes or chews tobacco, but I do believe it's poor stewardship and is harmful not only you, but to those around you. How many years would family members still be together if someone wasn't using tobacco?
- Davies
Good afternoon,
Smoking... For those of you who smoke, my opinion is not a reflection on your spirituality. When I smell a cigarette, the initial lighting of it smells really good, but then it takes on this stale, detestable smell. I can't stand it. I did smoke for a short period of time, but, when I couldn't breath properly, I found it easy to give up. What I found infinitely more difficult to give up was chewing tobacco. I quit over a year ago after having quite for several years. I found it easy to quit this last time, because of a few things: my view that tobacco was part of the old man, my desire to see my daughter grow up, and stage 4 throat cancer. I by no means condemn anyone who smokes or chews tobacco, but I do believe it's poor stewardship and is harmful not only you, but to those around you. How many years would family members still be together if someone wasn't using tobacco?
- Davies
farouk
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
Claudya:
True! but you haven't lived in North America, then...there's a big moralizing brigade out there, both secular and professedly religious.
I still think it's best to quit, though.
Claudya:
True! but you haven't lived in North America, then...there's a big moralizing brigade out there, both secular and professedly religious.
I still think it's best to quit, though.
Claudya
Member
Re: Giviing up smoking?
No, I haven't had the honour of living there yet.
I heard the war on smoking is raging in the USA. It's going the same direction herer, but not as tough. Because unlike in the USA personal freedom is a value here. :p
*runs for cover*
No, I haven't had the honour of living there yet.
I heard the war on smoking is raging in the USA. It's going the same direction herer, but not as tough. Because unlike in the USA personal freedom is a value here. :p
*runs for cover*
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Paul1965
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Re: Giviing up smoking?
Try.fail.Try, fail, try,fail, try,fail. I have now reached the point where I have given up giving up.
If there were such a thing as a time machine, I'd book a ticket and go back to the day I first put a smoke in my mouth. when I got there I'd take a loooong run up and kick myself in the behind.
( can I say that here?) If not please delete it and accept my apologies.
Try.fail.Try, fail, try,fail, try,fail. I have now reached the point where I have given up giving up.
If there were such a thing as a time machine, I'd book a ticket and go back to the day I first put a smoke in my mouth. when I got there I'd take a loooong run up and kick myself in the behind.
( can I say that here?) If not please delete it and accept my apologies.
Paul1965
Member
Re: Giviing up smoking?
i have to agree with you there. Last timeI tried, my wife couldn't take it after the 3rd day, went to shops and bought me a pack. I was that bad!
A funny thing tho, people say that you smoke more when you drink alcohol. Not me I was the reverse. Drinking 15-20 /day since God defeated booze for me 30/day +. Sorry for the sidetrack Farouk
DCB did you succeed in the end?
i have to agree with you there. Last timeI tried, my wife couldn't take it after the 3rd day, went to shops and bought me a pack. I was that bad!
A funny thing tho, people say that you smoke more when you drink alcohol. Not me I was the reverse. Drinking 15-20 /day since God defeated booze for me 30/day +. Sorry for the sidetrack Farouk