Would someone point me to a thread on this forum that has ever dealt with fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, coverters, drunkards, revilers, and swindlers with the same zeal as that leveled toward homosexuals?
Can't say anything to any "one" unless we include "everyone" huh?! I don't believe I've ever heard Gary once condone the behaviour of any of the aforementioned lifestyles, yet its odd to me that you (Sputnik) are quick to come to the defense of homosexuals in this thread.
The scripture that was given to point SPECIFICALLY to homosexuals by the poster included all of the above, Scott! And yet - and read my lips - it's only ever homosexuals that get targetted. There is nothing 'odd' about my 'coming to the defense of' anyone who I feel is being maligned by a bunch of Christian thugs who carry their Bibles like a weapon.
This thread is - yet again - about homosexuality and was initiated by Gary for no other purpose than to goad others into an argument. Don't let us kid ourselves! The Bible - and this DISGUSTS me - is yet again being used to condemn others to hell by people who evidently feel they have the right to do so. There is nothing 'odd' about my motives here, Scott. If I felt that you were being hounded into a corner by a pack of snarling dogs waving their Bible under your nose, I'd defend you too.
Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, its not hereditary and there is no gay gene. Homosexuals are just that because they choose to be. Making excuses for sinful lifestyles helps no one.
You have no idea what you're talking about here, Scott, and yet you come across as being the final authority on the subject. Such ignorance in regard to this issue is why we get to using fisticuffs. Ignorance would have to be the biggest sin of all. Who are the experts? Well ...I KNOW at least SOME people who know from their OWN experience as to what having a homosexual orientation is all about. And, while they don't know why they have this particular orientation, they DO know that it IS a part of them. Yes, they also feel that they are abnormal and this creates some distress. But the biggest distress they suffer is created by Christians.
Furthermore, I find NONE of them to be the evil people you and others on this forum would have them be. On the contrary, they could show some of you up in regard to Christian values and humility. One particular young friend - and I have to be cautious in case someone who might know me on this forum may suspect who it is - is one of the finest examples of Christianity that I've ever come across. This person is a virgin and will probably remain that way because he loves his God. He has purchased any number of books on the issue and has listened to many tapes in the hope of changing his orientation. We've talked for hours as to what may have 'caused' this predisposition to same gender attraction ...to no avail. He struggles on a daily basis because he's attracted to certain others of the same gender. He is currently relying on God to help him because the books and tapes and the condemning texts from the Bible have done nothing to take away the orientation. He avoids forums such as this since few people have anything other than ignorance on the issue going for them.
So don't you come across as some expert on the subject, Scott. You are FAR from it, my friend.
If you'd like to talk about witch hunts then we can talk about the slander of men and women throughout history that homosexual activists have claimed to be gay/lesbian without any fact other than the observation that they were not having promiscious sexual relations with the opposite sex.
Sorry, Scott. Red herring.
That stereotype is used so much these days. Its either you're a homosexual or prove yourself otherwise by a promiscious lifestyle, or we'll slander you. Don't think for one second that we're going to bullied around on this forum or on the world scene. The truth isn't hiding and those of us who acknowledge it aren't either.
Are you saying that, besides their having a sinful orientation, homosexual people are also bullies? The only bullying I see on this forum is by professed Christians against the homosexual person. And you don't seem to have a problem with that at all.
