God's plan for the Gay Agenda

[bibleberean]

Rule 3 - Personel conflicts:
If you have personal problems with another member, then deal with it through private messages. Give other members the respect you would want them to give yourself. If the problem cannot be handled through private messages, then Report problems to Mods or Admins ASAP.

Matt. 18: 15. "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
16. "But if he will not hear you, take with you one or two more, that `by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.'

 

[Asaph]

Well, you need to go back and re-read my pm to you. It was an informal warning and not once did I say you would be booted from the forum.

But, since you want it this way, you are now being given an official warning for your behavior in here and your posts will be deleted as soon as I can get this referred to a moderator over this area.

This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

your private warning was clear and to the point enough that I clearly understood I can no longer oppose you openly in the forum.

I am not stupid. I understand that you will ban me if I continually state the Word of God as revealed in His bible.

I am certain I am not the first to endure this, nor will I be the last.

 

[wavy]

Well, you need to go back and re-read my pm to you. It was an informal warning and not once did I say you would be booted from the forum.

But, since you want it this way, you are now being given an official warning for your behavior in here and your posts will be deleted as soon as I can get this referred to a moderator over this area.

This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

your private warning was clear and to the point enough that I clearly understood I can no longer oppose you openly in the forum.

I am not stupid. I understand that you will ban me if I continually state the Word of God as revealed in His bible.

I am certain I am not the first to endure this, nor will I be the last.

Now I gotta go back and read what's been said.

Sounds ineresting. :-D

 

[Relic]

You have no idea what you're talking about here, Scott, and yet you come across as being the final authority on the subject. Such ignorance in regard to this issue is why we get to using fisticuffs. Ignorance would have to be the biggest sin of all. Who are the experts? Well ...I KNOW at least SOME people who know from their OWN experience as to what having a homosexual orientation is all about. And, while they don't know why they have this particular orientation, they DO know that it IS a part of them. Yes, they also feel that they are abnormal and this creates some distress. But the biggest distress they suffer is created by Christians.

Furthermore, I find NONE of them to be the evil people you and others on this forum would have them be. On the contrary, they could show some of you up in regard to Christian values and humility. One particular young friend - and I have to be cautious in case someone who might know me on this forum may suspect who it is - is one of the finest examples of Christianity that I've ever come across. This person is a virgin and will probably remain that way because he loves his God. He has purchased any number of books on the issue and has listened to many tapes in the hope of changing his orientation. We've talked for hours as to what may have 'caused' this predisposition to same gender attraction ...to no avail. He struggles on a daily basis because he's attracted to certain others of the same gender. He is currently relying on God to help him because the books and tapes and the condemning texts from the Bible have done nothing to take away the orientation. He avoids forums such as this since few people have anything other than ignorance on the issue going for them.

So don't you come across as some expert on the subject, Scott. You are FAR from it, my friend.

SputnikBoy,

So are you saying you support the homosexual agenda?
And you think you are the final authority on it?


And do you think the spirit has nothing to do with influencing the thoughts of another, you think the devil has no role in haunting the thoughts of another?


answer this example:
If I say I am lazy to a fault and I can't help it, I just don't want to do anything, I can't help it. It's just my nature to not want to do anything but to lay around and be lazy. DO you think I was born that way and that I have no choice in the matter? You think that the thoughts I keep focused on are in no way a part of this manifestation of this "feeling" i now have inside of me? Do you think that if I defy that thought of wanting to be lazy that I have a chance of overcoming it, that I have a chance of resisting the extremely strong urge to listen to the haunting, unrelenting feeling of it that stems from inside of me? :-?




If you take the devil out of the equation, then you defy everything God says about the whiles of the devil.
And oh, guess what.... the devil is an "evil' Influence.
If you can't accept what God's calls evil for what it is and in which way God describes these evil influences and in how Jesus shows us how to OVERCOME temptation and how to "Go and sin no more". And if you can't teach others that life is not easy... but also, don't you know this, we are at war with the devil. Ephesians 6:11-21 Then what the heck are you doing on a Christian forum anyway? Are you defying the very teachings in the bible then? Are you defying the teachings in the bible about how satan so slyly deceives and even comes disguised as an angel of light? Are you defying the teachings of what the evil spirits are? God describes the evil and he describes the holy. And He clearly describes how to resist the evil temptation and how to overcome sin.

He, God the Father, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, never told us life would be without struggle! And He never told us life would go without temptation. HE did show us how to resist temptation and how to overcome evil. Isn't that what Christians are supposed to teach?

You think you are the only authority on this subject, because you speak to those who are suffering with the thoughts of homosexuality? You think you are the only authority on the subject because of how you understand their suffering and your way of speaking to them is the superior way ? :o

I'll trust the Holy word of God, even though it is a sharp two edged sword that, at many times, cuts right to the heart of sin! And it convicts and leads me to repentance. Hard as it may be at times. No one said it is easy! There is no easy way out of sin! Jesus said, Follow me, take up your cross and follow me! You think it is easy to take up your own cross? It is not easy!

Sin, is one of the most difficult things you will ever do in life is to give up sin! And it take carrying your own cross. It is a cross to bear! Teach that and maybe you will have some success with some of the people who are having such a difficult time with what they think is an orientation that God has nothing to do with!


Teach scripture that convicts and teaches how to resist and overcome the whiles of the devil. Overcoming sin IS a huge struggle! Jesus never said it would be easy! But he did show a way!


What are you doing on a Christian forum if you don't agree or teach others about the scriptures that teach how to resist and overcome evil, but only come on board and put down scriptures that point out what sin is and the consequences of acting upon sin?



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[SputnikBoy]

Asaph, there is no point in discussing this with you. You are getting too emotional and that never turns out well.

I'm getting to emotional? You don't like my approach to the truth, so you send me a warning as a moderator? Now I'm supposed to get in line with your twisted interpretation of scripture or I will be "booted" from the forum? Is that how you handle everybody who presents truth to you?

I'm here yet. How's that? Here I am. Boot me then!

But don't do it in private, be a man! State your case in public!

Asaph ...do your parents know you're here?

I will run circles around you. I would be very careful how you approach me. You having at it? Because I can guaratee you I am ready.

Go boy.

I am your huckleberry.

Others on this forum please take note of the tone of this particular conveyor of God's love for the sinner but not the sin. Can we really take this person seriously?

Asaph, I'd love to debate this issue with you on an adult level if that's okay with you. Okay?

 

[Scott]

There is nothing 'odd' about my 'coming to the defense of' anyone who I feel is being maligned by a bunch of Christian thugs who carry their Bibles like a weapon.

If I were to carry out violence on someone I would certainly not be using a Bible as my weapon. In your mind you can't seem to distinguish between physical harm and truth that convicts.

If I felt that you were being hounded into a corner by a pack of snarling dogs waving their Bible under your nose, I'd defend you too.

No one here is under physical harm, so why is there any need to exagerrate something thats not happening. There is a big difference between someone lying half beaten to death in a ditch and the arrogant flamboyant Bible-hating world changers who get opposed because of their wickedness. They bring their agenda to all facets of life and shove it down our throughts. They plant their seeds of wickedness in our schoolsystems so that future generations can grow up embracing something God detests as though it were ok. So we should all just sit back and say nothing, be buddy-buddy with every one of these people because we don't want to offend and we want them to feel wanted. We don't want to be labeled as bullies for speaking out and we are afraid of being associated with those who have clearly shown their hate. Instead we should use the world's version of love and make them comfortable and supported so as to forget about the Hell that awaits their unrepentant hearts. I bet that makes you sleep real well, or maybe you don't even think about that reality.

So don't you come across as some expert on the subject, Scott. You are FAR from it, my friend.

Well since you seem to believe in the myth, I'll just say that I'll refrain from the "I told you so" because we are going to see things oneday for what they truly are. God's Word wouldn't be so adamant about such a lifestyle if He weren't serious. So you can take your orientation and you can preach it till your body is cold but the fact is it is something you can't and never will be able to prove. Your lack of evidence is my proof already. Your orientation is just a copout, an excuse to sin freely.

The only bullying I see on this forum is by professed Christians against the homosexual person. And you don't seem to have a problem with that at all.

The homosexuals have a bigger platform to speak from in the media, I'm ok with being the minority here. While I still have the freedom of speech I intend on using it. Please differentiate in your mind the guy lying in the ditch and the opposition to "glorified immorality".

Sorry, Scott. Red herring.

Maybe oneday the fog will lift and you'll see web thats been weaved and all the people caught in its trap. You know it happens just as well as I do. Your one sentence response only only shows its an issue you'd rather not attempt to address. That's ok, you may just be caught in the middle for a time.

We've talked for hours as to what may have 'caused' this predisposition to same gender attraction ...to no avail. He struggles on a daily basis because he's attracted to certain others of the same gender. He is currently relying on God to help him because the books and tapes and the condemning texts from the Bible have done nothing to take away the orientation. He avoids forums such as this since few people have anything other than ignorance on the issue going for them.

You know what that sounds like... it sounds like someone who wants a pat on the back for refraining from sin but if he slips now and then its not his fault because God supposedly made him that way. Everyone struggles from time to time to resist the allure and pleasure that can come with sinning of any form. But we are told to flee from temptation and if we should fall to confess our sins with a repentant heart.... there is no room here for making excuses. If you haven't sinned then continue to resist, if you've fallen than repent. Don't try to change the rules or blame God for your own desires and lusts. Sin is not from God. So spare me the expert advice seeing as how you're the one reasoning from insufficient data.

But the biggest distress they suffer is created by Christians.

Thats why so many homosexuals come across as proud of their actions. This thread isn't talking about those who are beaten down struggling with leaving a life of sin, its about those who refuse to acknowledge their lifestyle as being sin. Their biggest distress is being that there those of us who refuse to let the Truth be silenced.

Furthermore, I find NONE of them to be the evil people you and others on this forum would have them be.

This thread is about truth and opposing those who reject it, not seperating the Hitlers and Mother Theresas.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

Well, you need to go back and re-read my pm to you. It was an informal warning and not once did I say you would be booted from the forum.

But, since you want it this way, you are now being given an official warning for your behavior in here and your posts will be deleted as soon as I can get this referred to a moderator over this area.

This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

your private warning was clear and to the point enough that I clearly understood I can no longer oppose you openly in the forum.

I am not stupid. I understand that you will ban me if I continually state the Word of God as revealed in His bible.

I am certain I am not the first to endure this, nor will I be the last.

Well, let's clear the air then

First, I do not have the power or the desire to ban you. I am probably the one mod who gives out the least warnings here. In fact, I tried to not give you a warning at all. I tried to bring this to you as a reminder of the terms of service and made it very clear that the pm I was sending was not an official warning and would not go against your account. This is also how I logged it into the mod section.

Second, I did not address you concerning your dealings with me. That would be a conflict of interest and I do not care to wield unrighteous dominion over people. If I choose to debate you, then I certainly will not warn you for our debate. That would be left to another, impartial mod to do so if it so warrants.

Third, I hope that this will resolve here and now. I do not wish to see you take this out of control and get yourself booted. You were asked to slow down and you took it to the open forum and called people out. I am sure that if you go back and reread what you posted you will see that it is quite out of line and hopefully will choose to do differently from here on out.

And fourth, and I hope this one comes out most clearly. I too am a Christian. I may see things differently then you but this does not mean you are the only one who has truth. You can certainly speak about what you feel the Bible is saying and then in return, as this is a debate forum, others may have differing opinions. This does not for one moment make you or me any more of a Christian. Christ died for both of us and I am perfectly okay with that.

I am concerned that you cannot take into consideration anything outside of what you deem to be the inerrant interpretation of the word of God. I feel like, and this is not a jab or anything, that you are new to Christ and in your fervor have decided that anything outside your spectrum of faith has got to be heresy. Well, as you will find there are many shades of gray within the body of Christ. This does not take away His atonement power though.

Being on fire is great but don't let that fire make you an enemy of others who Christ died for.


On a closing note, this is not the place for this. If you have any further questions you may pm me but this needs to be moved off the open forum. And if you do not agree with me, as I said in my pm to you, you are always welcome to seek out the advice of Judy or Vic who are the senior administrators of the forum.

 

[Relic]

...Furthermore, I find NONE of them to be the evil people you and others on this forum would have them be...

No one is calling them evil. It is the sin that is evil, not the person.

If you think the devil/evil has nothing to do with sin, you are defying the very heart of the teachings in the bible about sin and what it is and where it stems from. And how to resist and overcome sin.


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[SputnikBoy]

...Furthermore, I find NONE of them to be the evil people you and others on this forum would have them be...

No one is calling them evil. It is the sin that is evil, not the person.

Yet again attention needs to be drawn to the fact that one's sexual orientation in and of itself is NOT a sin. It this was the case then heterosexuality would be a sin also. Nowhere does the Bible address this particular issue of 'orientation'. Being born is a biological function that has little or nothing to do with God. God also does not have anything to do with physics, the weather, accidents, and so on. God created everything but He allows the natural flow of things to occur unheeded.

If a plane loses an engine mount, it drops out of the sky killing all aboard. The law of physics dictates this, not God. Nor the devil.

If the conditions are right for a hurricane, that hurricane may hit a populated area killing thousands. All manner of meteorological phenomena are involved here ...not God. Nor the devil.

If a child carelessly rides out on to the highway and gets hit by a truck, he may well be killed. No one is to 'blame' as such. This is an accident. God does not prevent accidents from happening. Nor does the devil make them happen.

God did not suspend the law of gravity when Joni Earekson dove into the water and broke her neck resulting in her becoming a quadriplegia. It was an accident. The devil was not responsible.

Nor is God responsible for someone's being born blind or with some other genetic defect. Nor is the devil. God is not responsible for one's sexual orientation. Nor is the devil. It is the individual BEHIND the orientation who has the ability and the choice to sin.

Furthermore, the majority of scriptural warnings BY FAR are aimed at the sexual sins committed by the heterosexual. And yet, these texts are raised persistently on this forum as though God aims them SPECIFICALLY at the homosexual person. In actuality, texts alluding to same gender sins are so sparce that additional scriptures need to be presented as padding. This enables Christians - or it appears to, anyway - to set homosexuality apart as the worst abomination known to God. Those who do this kind of thing to bolster their own 'homophobia' are lying. And we all know what an abomination lying is to God, don't we?

If you think the devil/evil has nothing to do with sin, you are defying the very heart of the teachings in the bible about sin and what it is and where it stems from. And how to resist and overcome sin.

None of which has to do with one's sexual orientation.

 

[Relic]

Yet again attention needs to be drawn to the fact that one's sexual orientation in and of itself is NOT a sin.

SputnikBoy,

Sexual "orientation" as defined by the homosexual "community" is a made up thing! God did not create sexual orientation differing from that of man being with woman and woman being with man.
God did not say Adam and Steve! God created Adam and EVE!

Get it straight! Your whole acceptance of this "theory" that people are "oriented" towards the same sex is NOT BIBLICAL!
Homosexuality is a LIE OF THE DEVIL that people buy into!
The devil is influencing thought and people are buying into his lies!
Get it striaght! The bible is clear about the whiles of the devil how he operates!

I wholehearteldy disagree with you.

God did NOT create man to be with man, and God did NOT create woman to be with women! PERIOD!
God created woman out of man to be in co-habitation and reproduce with each other. The Holy Word of God teaches that men being with men and women being with women is clearly a SIN! I believe the Holy Word of God! It proves itself true!

Being born is a biological function that has little or nothing to do with God. God also does not have anything to do with physics, the weather, accidents, and so on. God created everything but He allows the natural flow of things to occur unheeded.

:o :o :o :o :o

You have just proven to me that you defy what the bible teaches and your logic is perverted from that which the bible teaches in regards to sexual behavior and in regards to the laws of nature!

I am not going to bicker back and forth with you who clearly denies what the bible teaches.

God teaches us how to resist the temptations of the devil and how to overcome! You are not teaching this! You have another agenda and it is not biblical!

You clearly ignore every biblical truth that is placed in front of you!


Sad, so sad.

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[Lyric's Dad]

WHOA! While I do not disagree that homosexual practice is sin, I do disagree that people are not born with a propensity toward it. We are fallen people and in being fallen we have a sinful nature. This is no different then being drawn toward any other sin. It is not a choice any more then it is a choice to be tempted by theft, murder, or even, gasp, heterosexual lust.

 

[Relic]

If I felt that you were being hounded into a corner by a pack of snarling dogs waving their Bible under your nose, I'd defend you too.

No one here is under physical harm, so why is there any need to exagerrate something thats not happening. There is a big difference between someone lying half beaten to death in a ditch and the arrogant flamboyant Bible-hating world changers who get opposed because of their wickedness. They bring their agenda to all facets of life and shove it down our throughts. They plant their seeds of wickedness in our schoolsystems so that future generations can grow up embracing something God detests as though it were ok. So we should all just sit back and say nothing, be buddy-buddy with every one of these people because we don't want to offend and we want them to feel wanted. We don't want to be labeled as bullies for speaking out and we are afraid of being associated with those who have clearly shown their hate. Instead we should use the world's version of love and make them comfortable and supported so as to forget about the Hell that awaits their unrepentant hearts. I bet that makes you sleep real well, or maybe you don't even think about that reality.

Amen Scott!


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[Gary]

This and several other discussions are proof positive that calling someone names does not cause them to change.

Afterall, in the Bible it was the Pharisees and Sadducees that were called a pit of vipers and nothing changed in them....

Not true.

Peter said: ".... This man (Jesus) was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put Him to death by nailing Him to the cross.

Here we have Peter calling them murderers!

Peter goes on to talk about the resurrection of Christ and the pouring out of the promised Holy Spirit.

Peter continues: ".... Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."

Again, Peter accusing them of being murderers.

When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?"

Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far offâ€â€for all whom the Lord our God will call."

With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation." Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

Acts 2:14-41

Exposing the sin, calling them murderers, warning them and then offering repentance.

3,000 added that day!!!

:o

 

[Gary]

This and several other discussions are proof positive that calling someone names does not cause them to change.

Afterall, in the Bible it was the Pharisees and Sadducees that were called a pit of vipers and nothing changed in them....

Again, not true.

John 3:1-12 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.

"You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

... and then:

John 7:45-52 Finally the temple guards went back to the chief priests and Pharisees, who asked them, "Why didn't you bring him in?"

"No one ever spoke the way this man does," the guards declared.

"You mean he has deceived you also?" the Pharisees retorted. "Has any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed in him? No! But this mob that knows nothing of the lawâ€â€there is a curse on them."

Nicodemus, who had gone to Jesus earlier and who was one of their own number, asked, "Does our law condemn anyone without first hearing him to find out what he is doing?"

They replied, "Are you from Galilee, too? Look into it, and you will find that a prophet does not come out of Galilee."

... and finally:

John 19:38-42 Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jews. With Pilate's permission, he came and took the body away. He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds. Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs. At the place where Jesus was crucified, there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb, in which no one had ever been laid. Because it was the Jewish day of Preparation and since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.

:D

 

[SputnikBoy]

Yet again attention needs to be drawn to the fact that one's sexual orientation in and of itself is NOT a sin.

SputnikBoy,

Sexual "orientation" as defined by the homosexual "community" is a made up thing! God did not create sexual orientation differing from that of man being with woman and woman being with man.
God did not say Adam and Steve! God created Adam and EVE!

I'm not going to regurgitate everything I've already said on this issue. I believe what I believe. I'm not interested in these silly cliches about Adam and Steve (sigh) nor am I interested in the unsubstantiated opinions of sanctimonious Bible-bashers. Yes, I am a Christian and a Christian who has to contend with his own sinful nature. It's because I do that I will NOT use the scriptures to condemn anyone else or support the pet hates of other Christians.

Get it straight! Your whole acceptance of this "theory" that people are "oriented" towards the same sex is NOT BIBLICAL!

Prove it.

Homosexuality is a LIE OF THE DEVIL that people buy into!
The devil is influencing thought and people are buying into his lies!
Get it striaght! The bible is clear about the whiles of the devil how he operates!

I wholehearteldy disagree with you.

It's a free country. You have that right. Do you give me that same right to disagree with you? Hmmm ...

God did NOT create man to be with man, and God did NOT create woman to be with women! PERIOD!

God created Adam and Eve. He didn't create anyone from then on. Adam and Eve produced offspring all by themselves.

God created woman out of man to be in co-habitation and reproduce with each other.

For the purpose of reproduction, obviously. Why - and I'm just asking out of curiosity - would it require male and female for recreational sex? I have an enquiring mind (God-given) and am interested in actual logical answers to questions. 'Because God said so' should perhaps satisfy me but it doesn't always necessarily satisfy me. So, why do two people in love have to be of a different gender?

The Holy Word of God teaches that men being with men and women being with women is clearly a SIN! I believe the Holy Word of God! It proves itself true!

But I see nothing in the scriptures pertaining to one's sexual orientation being a 'given' at birth. By the way, do you get as angry when you see someone profaning God's Sabbath? If not, why?

Being born is a biological function that has little or nothing to do with God. God also does not have anything to do with physics, the weather, accidents, and so on. God created everything but He allows the natural flow of things to occur unheeded.

:o :o :o :o :o

You have just proven to me that you defy what the bible teaches and your logic is perverted from that which the bible teaches in regards to sexual behavior and in regards to the laws of nature!

Okay, okay, I'm not deaf. Get a grip on yourself. Where does the Bible refer to the natural laws of nature? Is being born with one arm a natural law of nature? My friend requires a hearing aid to hear. Another friend confesses reluctantly that he has twinges of attraction to the same gender. Are both these things the natural law of nature or is one not? Which one is the sin? You can't reconcile these things with the scriptures, Relic, no matter how desperately you try.

I am not going to bicker back and forth with you who clearly denies what the bible teaches.

I don't ask you to. In fact, I'd much rather you go away and evaluate your own sins if the truth be known.

God teaches us how to resist the temptations of the devil and how to overcome! You are not teaching this! You have another agenda and it is not biblical!

One's sexual orientation is NOT a sin. What one chooses to do with it might be. My agenda, by the way, is not to play God.

You clearly ignore every biblical truth that is placed in front of you!

EVERY Biblical truth? The overwhelming majority of the scriptures presented here have had nothing to do with homosexuality. But they have had EVERYTHING to do with heterosexual sins.

Sad, so sad.

Don't let it get you down. Let God be the judge.

 

[Solo]

It is so much better when scripture is used to back up ones position in his/her service to God, instead of feelings and tickling the ears of others. Thanks BibleBerean for your clear concise interpretation given you of the Holy Spirit. God bless.

Baloney! BB digs out scriptures that are NOT aimed at those with homosexual tendencies but sinners in general ...of which BB is one.

If you prefer to back up homosexual doctrine over Biblical doctrine, that is your choice. You can pay the piper at the end with your ridiculous immature stand on the truth of the Word of God. PS Are you a homosexual?

 

[peace4all]

Asaph wrote:
Lyric's Dad wrote:
Well, you need to go back and re-read my pm to you. It was an informal warning and not once did I say you would be booted from the forum.

But, since you want it this way, you are now being given an official warning for your behavior in here and your posts will be deleted as soon as I can get this referred to a moderator over this area.

This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.


your private warning was clear and to the point enough that I clearly understood I can no longer oppose you openly in the forum.

I am not stupid. I understand that you will ban me if I continually state the Word of God as revealed in His bible.

I am certain I am not the first to endure this, nor will I be the last.

I have seen lyrics reply to this, and I have to agre 100%.
I have had many arguements over everything on this forum, with him, and still happen to be here. Lyric has proven me wrong a few times (as I think I may have gotten him once or twice) But regardless.

we may differ on opinions, and differ on our interpretations, our views, and even our religion.

But the word of god is the word of god, and lyric is one of the people here that seems to know scripture very well, and what it actually means.



(weird of me to support someone I have quarraled with soo much isnt it?)

 

[SputnikBoy]

It is so much better when scripture is used to back up ones position in his/her service to God, instead of feelings and tickling the ears of others. Thanks BibleBerean for your clear concise interpretation given you of the Holy Spirit. God bless.

Baloney! BB digs out scriptures that are NOT aimed at those with homosexual tendencies but sinners in general ...of which BB is one.

If you prefer to back up homosexual doctrine over Biblical doctrine, that is your choice. You can pay the piper at the end with your ridiculous immature stand on the truth of the Word of God. PS Are you a homosexual?

Unless one is frothing at the mouth against homosexuality as expected then one is under suspicion of BEING a homosexual, eh Solo? If the answer was 'yes' I'd hardly confess such a thing to you, now would I? All I would get in return would be lashings of condemnation intended to turn me 'straight' or otherwise 'burn'. While I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, the answer is 'no'.

While my take on this issue is contrary to that of you and your buddy BB, Solo, it's hardly ridiculous or immature. I disagree with you on any number of issues that you claim are scriptural. This is just another.

 

[SputnikBoy]

Weird of me to support someone I have quarraled with soo much isnt it?

Not at all. You obviously respect Lyric's Dad and his views despite your differences. That's great and the way it should be.

 

[Solo]

It is so much better when scripture is used to back up ones position in his/her service to God, instead of feelings and tickling the ears of others. Thanks BibleBerean for your clear concise interpretation given you of the Holy Spirit. God bless.

Baloney! BB digs out scriptures that are NOT aimed at those with homosexual tendencies but sinners in general ...of which BB is one.

If you prefer to back up homosexual doctrine over Biblical doctrine, that is your choice. You can pay the piper at the end with your ridiculous immature stand on the truth of the Word of God. PS Are you a homosexual?

Unless one is frothing at the mouth against homosexuality as expected then one is under suspicion of BEING a homosexual, eh Solo? If the answer was 'yes' I'd hardly confess such a thing to you, now would I? All I would get in return would be lashings of condemnation intended to turn me 'straight' or otherwise 'burn'. While I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, the answer is 'no'.

While my take on this issue is contrary to that of you and your buddy BB, Solo, it's hardly ridiculous or immature. I disagree with you on any number of issues that you claim are scriptural. This is just another.

I believe that our responsibility as Christians is to proclaim the truth of God's Word, not glaze over it and paint it with words that tickle the ears of the hearers so that they won't get upset. All who are not born again will burn in hell whether they chose to believe God's Word or not. It is not my word, it is God's Word. Where in the Bible does it say that we should not warn others? Where in the Bible does it say that God can not change our sinful carcasses and turn to bring glory to him? Where does it say in the Bible that it is acceptable to God for women to have sex with women, and men to have sex with men?

As a friend and brother in Jesus Christ, let me say that you have bought into the sales pitch of the homosexual lobby that preaches tolerance towards their sinful lifestyle. The teach that they were born into homosexuality, and that may well be the case if you believe that liars are born liars, and murderers are born murderers, and child molesters are born child molesters, and thieves are born thieves, and adulterers are born adulterers. No man/woman will get to the kingdom of God without being born of the Spirit so that they can walk in the Spirit and not the flesh. A man that walks in the flesh can never imitate the mind of Jesus Christ in his life.

It would be great to see you preach the Word of God as vehemently as you preach the homosexual agenda doctrine. I would be your staunchest supporter.