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There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
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Solo said:I believe that our responsibility as Christians is to proclaim the truth of God's Word, not glaze over it and paint it with words that tickle the ears of the hearers so that they won't get upset. All who are not born again will burn in hell whether they chose to believe God's Word or not. It is not my word, it is God's Word. Where in the Bible does it say that we should not warn others? Where in the Bible does it say that God can not change our sinful carcasses and turn to bring glory to him? Where does it say in the Bible that it is acceptable to God for women to have sex with women, and men to have sex with men?
As a friend and brother in Jesus Christ, let me say that you have bought into the sales pitch of the homosexual lobby that preaches tolerance towards their sinful lifestyle. The teach that they were born into homosexuality, and that may well be the case if you believe that liars are born liars, and murderers are born murderers, and child molesters are born child molesters, and thieves are born thieves, and adulterers are born adulterers. No man/woman will get to the kingdom of God without being born of the Spirit so that they can walk in the Spirit and not the flesh. A man that walks in the flesh can never imitate the mind of Jesus Christ in his life.
It would be great to see you preach the Word of God as vehemently as you preach the homosexual agenda doctrine. I would be your staunchest supporter.
Solo said:It would be great to see you preach the Word of God as vehemently as you preach the homosexual agenda doctrine. I would be your staunchest supporter.
First off you do not even know what the homosexual agenda consists of.
Peace, it only shows maturity to be able to have a disagreement and still know that we are all worthy of respect and a loving hand.peace4all said:Asaph wrote:
Lyric's Dad wrote:
Well, you need to go back and re-read my pm to you. It was an informal warning and not once did I say you would be booted from the forum.
But, since you want it this way, you are now being given an official warning for your behavior in here and your posts will be deleted as soon as I can get this referred to a moderator over this area.
This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
your private warning was clear and to the point enough that I clearly understood I can no longer oppose you openly in the forum.
I am not stupid. I understand that you will ban me if I continually state the Word of God as revealed in His bible.
I am certain I am not the first to endure this, nor will I be the last.
I have seen lyrics reply to this, and I have to agre 100%.
I have had many arguements over everything on this forum, with him, and still happen to be here. Lyric has proven me wrong a few times (as I think I may have gotten him once or twice) But regardless.
we may differ on opinions, and differ on our interpretations, our views, and even our religion.
But the word of god is the word of god, and lyric is one of the people here that seems to know scripture very well, and what it actually means.
(weird of me to support someone I have quarraled with soo much isnt it?)
Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.Asaph said:There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Lyric's Dad said:Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.Asaph said:There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.
Actually, what I am saying is that we don't really know. It is wrong for any of us to make a concrete statement either way.Gary said:Lyric's Dad said:Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.Asaph said:There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.
If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.
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Most countries put the habitual thief into prison.Lyric's Dad said:...Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.
Gary said:I have my personal theory as well. Those who claim to be Christian and spend so much time defending the Gay Agenda are actually homosexual.
Asaph said:There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Lyric's Dad said:Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.
Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.
Gary said:If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.
Lyric's Dad said:Actually, what I am saying is that we don't really know. It is wrong for any of us to make a concrete statement either way.
I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."
While I do believe that there are some people, mostly women, who choose to have a relation with the same sex due to traumatic events in their life, I find it sort of silly to label this on them all.
Again, I do not debate if the act is sinful. But like all other sins we are predisposed to commit, this is one that is legitimately part of the person. Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.
Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.
People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.
And :oLyrics Dad said:Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.
People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual
Lyric's Dad said:I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."
That does not phase me in the least.Gary said:I have my personal theory as well. Those who claim to be Christian and spend so much time defending the Gay Agenda are actually homosexual.
No, mostly I am just in defense of the anti-pharisee club and the agenda of those who think the Bible is a weapon to be used against those who espouse the lifestyle they are afraid someone will see they desire.Gary said:Most countries put the habitual thief into prison.Lyric's Dad said:...Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.
Most "ardent supporters of adultery" ultimately divorce and are eventually rejected by friends and family.
Would you also support the Thief Agenda and the Adultery Agenda with as much passion as you defend the Gay Agenda?
:D
Relic, I try, truly I do, to read your rambling diatribes with all the pretty colors but about a quarter of the way through I just realize there is nothing there and I quit. If you want to get some point across, do yourself a favor;Relic said:Asaph said:There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Lyric's Dad said:Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.
Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.
Gary said:If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.
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Lyric's Dad said:Actually, what I am saying is that we don't really know. It is wrong for any of us to make a concrete statement either way.
I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."
While I do believe that there are some people, mostly women, who choose to have a relation with the same sex due to traumatic events in their life, I find it sort of silly to label this on them all.
Again, I do not debate if the act is sinful. But like all other sins we are predisposed to commit, this is one that is legitimately part of the person. Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.
Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.
People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.
But oh my, Lyric's Dad,
Where do you come up with all of your theories?
Surely, not from th bible? You know... the book that teaches us the "holy" word of God and it teaches us all about the whiles of the Devil and how he operates? :smt017
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And :oLyrics Dad said:Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.
People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual
And so, in that sense, would you deny that fact about what the word of God says about the perversions of the thoughts of man and how God's Holy word of God says Satan is the crafty influencer of sin and only comes to steal kill and destroy? Are people who only think on homosexual thoughts excluded, by your standards? :smt012 :smt017 .
If your interpretation were true, then Jesus' own words in Matthew 5:28 would be in contradiction to his explaination of the workings of lustful thoughts!
Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. "
I ask you this, Why would that be any different for the homosexual in their thoughts when they "looketh on, to lust after" ? They are in fact not exluded from that truth of commiting "a sexual act in their minds" regardless of it being a man or a woman. Do you think being married makes all the difference? NOT! When it comes to lust, is it not what a man thinks in his heart that makes it a sin or not?
Lyrics Dad, You can't void out the truth in scritpure about the minds of men in order to meet your theories on how the homosexual comes to be what they claim to be.
Why do you totally eliminate what God says about the mind of man when it comes down to your defending the minds of the person who has homosexual thoughts? :o :o :o
God clearly teaches us about how Satan is the crafty creature, that the spirit of Satan is the one who comes to tempting man to sin. Even Jesus went through temptation of the devil, and spoke of the written word of God to cast him out of His presense.
Satan didn't leave Jesus alone until he was finished tempting Jesus! And why do you think Satan had to leave Jesus alone? Because of the Power of God's Word is the only thing that OVERCOMES the power God permits Satan to have!
Have you not read the story of Job?
God is the one who restores and heals because of man looking to God and overcoming the whiles of the devil by reliance on God! Not by doubt of God or by leaving God out of the equation! And surely, not by denying or leaving out the teachings of God! :o
Do you think the homosexual isn't being tempted of the devil in the flesh come to trick man into thinking they want a person of the same sex to mate with? :o
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Now we could just take that "theory of yours"
and pull the old switcher-oo on it and say this as truth from some other perspective than yours...
We could change it from saying this,
quote Lyrics Dad:
- "Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.
People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual"
to this saying this:
- People have chosen this one particular sin to defend because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to defend it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.
8-)
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Lyric's Dad said:I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."
And agian :o
You are exaggerating here. :-?
Actually, they didn't just wake up one day and say that!
What did happen is the "gradual" building up of Satanic influences coming to kill steal and destroy the "Holy Spirit" out of man.
And if man isn't prepared and armed with the HOLY Word of God and the belief in Christ Jesus as being that redeemer, the sword of truth!, that shows them a way of escape, then they are denying the truth in scirpture and are living in vain.
If anyone doesn't think Satan has a role in this specific sin, then they call God a liar in his description of Satan and the influences he uses in the minds of men, and deny what the bible teaches about the whiles of the Devil.
The bible starts out with showing the influence of the devil and it ends with showing the battle being won!
Now, who here denies that fact that the bible is the Holy Word of God that teaches how man, when turned away from God, is lost to sin by the demonic influences of Satan?
1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
God is not liar about the temptations of the devil and the influence he has on the minds of unprepared men!
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Amen!Vic said:Hey people, I have a great idea... why don't we start a thread on "Effective Witnessing".
Thses constant debates on homosexuality are wearing me out, getting very old and is causing nothing but division and dissention among the ranks here. We all know how each other feels.
This topic could go the way of the UR topics... hmm, I think I've said that before.
Amen, again!!Lyric's Dad said:Amen!Vic said:Hey people, I have a great idea... why don't we start a thread on "Effective Witnessing".
Thses constant debates on homosexuality are wearing me out, getting very old and is causing nothing but division and dissention among the ranks here. We all know how each other feels.
This topic could go the way of the UR topics... hmm, I think I've said that before.