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God's plan for the Gay Agenda

There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
 
Solo said:
I believe that our responsibility as Christians is to proclaim the truth of God's Word, not glaze over it and paint it with words that tickle the ears of the hearers so that they won't get upset. All who are not born again will burn in hell whether they chose to believe God's Word or not. It is not my word, it is God's Word. Where in the Bible does it say that we should not warn others? Where in the Bible does it say that God can not change our sinful carcasses and turn to bring glory to him? Where does it say in the Bible that it is acceptable to God for women to have sex with women, and men to have sex with men?

As a friend and brother in Jesus Christ, let me say that you have bought into the sales pitch of the homosexual lobby that preaches tolerance towards their sinful lifestyle. The teach that they were born into homosexuality, and that may well be the case if you believe that liars are born liars, and murderers are born murderers, and child molesters are born child molesters, and thieves are born thieves, and adulterers are born adulterers. No man/woman will get to the kingdom of God without being born of the Spirit so that they can walk in the Spirit and not the flesh. A man that walks in the flesh can never imitate the mind of Jesus Christ in his life.

It would be great to see you preach the Word of God as vehemently as you preach the homosexual agenda doctrine. I would be your staunchest supporter.


Amen to that Solo! :smt023

The lesson of the cross is a must!
Jesus said, we must pick up our own cross and follow him.

He came to save us FROM sin. Meaning to GO AND SIN NO MORE.
Giving up sin is not easy for the person who continues to walk in the flesh.


The homosexual and any other sinners must know this:

Unless you walk in the spirit your attempts to live in the good will of the "HOLY" spirit will be a walk of nothing but compromised breech of truth. You will be in essence betraying the truth of the Holy Spirit by not acting on the truth of the "Holy" Word of God. You will be claiming one thing and living another. You will be a liar if you say you walk in the holy spirit and don't take heed to the written truth of it as Jesus preached in many of his sermons. If you don't live by the words of the Holy Spirit what are you living by then? Are you not an honorable person? Are you taking claim to the "Holy" but yet you walk in the unholy? Pray tell, isn't that the same as saying you will do something but then you don't?

James 5:12-20 Let your yea be yea and your nay be nay...
If you want to walk with Jesus then do it, regardless of the blood sweat you feel that comes in opposition to it! We walk by faith! Not by sight! So do it! regardless of the blood sweat you feel that comes in opposition to it. Learn from the struggle Jesus went through in the Garden of Gethsemane! HE IS OUR "LIVING" EXAMPLE!
If Jesus can do it we can too. HE came in the flesh to show us how to resist temptation to sin and to overcome! We overcome by much prayer and focus on the Holy good will of God, not on our own fleshly will, but on the Holy good will of God the Father! and it is not easy!!!!!

Who said giving up sin and not giving into temptations to sin is easy? the devil, that's who! And who dares say the devil has nothing to do with the temptations of this world? Who says that? SputnikBoy who says the devil has nothing to do with sexual orientation and the devil! That's who!

The problem with the carnal minded person is they refuse to give up walking and working in the precepts of the ruler of the carnal mind.


2 Corinthians 5:15-20
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.


You can't be reconciled IF you refuse to change and become a new creature IN Christ. That doesn't mean you just sit there and do nothing about your behavior. It means you put away the old and put on the new. You walk With Christ Jesus. You don't walk in opposition to him by doing nothing to change what spirit you allow to influence your thinking and then the subsequent behavior.

It takes discipline to give up sin! And we only get that when we ask God for his mercy, (receive it) and ask God for grace to change (receive it) and we repent/turn away from. (receive it).

Nothing changes without receiving what you have asked God to help you overcome. And if it isn't in accordance to His Holy Word, what do you think you will get? :-?

If God gives you a gift and you refuse to receive it , the you have asked in vain and you mock the very power of God's holy word. It takes faith to receive and allow yourself to be a new creature in Christ. It' takes faith , a "working" acting upon the Word kind of Faith, to Follow Christ Jesus in that very same power he has within Himself, He gives to us. All we need to is believe and receive it! Have FAITH. receive it.

Learn from the parables and the many preachings which Jesus taught.
They are not just stories to be taken lightly.
They are the way the truth and the life!


Rise up out of your bed of mental paralysis and perversions and WALK in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ! Command those dead stubborn bones of your to get up and live in the power of the "HOLY" Spirit! The spirit has more power than the flesh! If you don't believe the Holy Spirit and the power there in, then what spirit are you giving power to?
If you can't understand that, then you need to go back to the gospels of Jesus and believe His Words and utilize them for yourself. We walk by faith and not by sight! All thing work to the good for those that are called according to His word.

It is the Faith you have in what Jesus preaches. Believe on him and your faith is second to nature. We walk by faith, not by sight. You have to trust that God's word IS manifesting in your life! We walk by Faith not by sight!!!! We walk by Faith, not by sight!

Trust the "Holy" Word and repeat it constantly, Go and sin no more. Say that a million times if you have to. If you don't believe it you won't get results. If you don't work it you won't get results. Trust God's Holy Words! not the devils deceptions that says you can't stop sinning, that says you have no working power behind the words of God. Don't believe the lies of the devil! Read the sermons of Jesus! Your faith is what brings on the action of His Truth to work in your life! believe it for yourself and your faith WILL make you whole.
You are not able to sin with the HOLY SPIRIT working in you. STOP grieving the Holy Spirit by ignoring his promptings and guidance and Stop sinning! Go and sin no more! Don't listen to that garbage that says to think sexy thoughts about the same sex!!!! Those are lies of the devil! PURE LIES!!!! The thoughts the devil tempts your mind with are triggers to physical reactions! Of course the carnal mind is going to want to react to the suggestions to the physical! Do you want to believe the Devils suggestions of what physical behavior to act upon or are you going to believe what God has to say about the perversions of the physical behaviors? And if you don't tell yourself the truth and continue to lie to betray yourself with the lies of the devil about the truth, you will believe the lie and continue living with blinders over your eyes! You will be right where the devil, who comes as an a seductrice, He comes as a seducing spirit! and that's exactly where he wants you to be! Caught in the trap of fornication and perversion of the flesh. The devil wants you to be in total opposite of what God intended for you to be! So Stop believing the lies of the devil! No matter how much blood sweat you think you are going through! The devil is a liar! Are you going to utilize the Holy Spirit to work in your life or are you going to keep pushing him away? It is your choice. And if you insist on having a stubborn hard heart about the matter of how to resist the temptations to sin and if you are stubborn in learning that it is not easy to overcome sin, then you are not being of the 'HOLY"Spirit. And you better stop listening to the "Unholy" spirit! Plain and simple.
There are no accidents! All so called "accidents" are of our own ignorance of the ways in which the Laws of God are a living force. If you deny God's power and absolute rule of order in ALL things, then you live by the lies of the devil. Period.


Take your pick. God hears those who listen and obey and ask for His Holy word to work in them. If you refuse to obey, then the Holy Spirit is just talking to a person who closes his ears to the Word of God. No different than a stubborn teenager who refuses to listen to the warnings of his parents. Just plain simple stubborn hard-heartedness. Get over it! Rise and be healed of your so called infirmity and stubborn selfish self! In the name of Jesus. Listen to Him, Believe Him and Stop acting as if his Word doesn't have any meaning or power! Read the sermons of Jesus! Learn from them and believe ON HIM ONLY! If you don't receive, you won't get the promise. It takes obedience to walk with Jesus. !

Belief,
Repentance,
Faith,
Trust the process to be working and active in you through walking in
Obedience!

Like it or not, you won't get anywhere if you don't walk with obedience.

Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Hebrews 5:8-9
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
9 And being madeperfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;


It's a learned thing! It takes practice! Practice makes perfect!


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Solo said:
It would be great to see you preach the Word of God as vehemently as you preach the homosexual agenda doctrine. I would be your staunchest supporter.

Solo you are once again showing your ignorance here. First off you do not even know what the homosexual agenda consists of. It certainly is not anything like what SputnikBoy has posted here. Not even close.

Yet you are unwilling to research the issue for yourself so as not to come out so far off base as you have.

I believe that you and those who support your views here have quite another agenda, and it is not in the best interests of the homosexuals that some of you claim to love, but not the sin.

And if that were not true one would be able to see some benefit for others as a result of what you and those who support your views here have posted. Yet you continue to spread this stuff, over and over again getting no positive results.

That's insanity, That's abuse, That's an attempt at mentally bullying another. I thank God for his protection from this kind of stuff. I rejoice in the fact that he has saved me from your sin.
 
Do Something
=============

No matter how big and tough a problem may be, get rid of
confusion by taking one little step toward solution.

Do something.

Then try again.

At the worst so long as you don't do it the same way twice,
you will eventually use up all the wrong ways of doing it;
and thus, the next try will be the right one.
~George F. Nordenholt~
 
First off you do not even know what the homosexual agenda consists of.

It consists of unrepentant homosexuals and homosexual supporters who wish to force acceptance of that lifestyle upon everyone in society. If you aren't in opposition to this blatant attack on morality, then you are most definitely part of the problem. Complacency compromises God's Word on this issue.

Notice you never see these people at rallies saying I'm struggling with homosexuality and I wish I could stop. No, they are flaming and proud of it. Those are the people and the lifestyle you are defending in this thread. They are the one's behind the homosexual agenda.
 
peace4all said:
Asaph wrote:
Lyric's Dad wrote:
Well, you need to go back and re-read my pm to you. It was an informal warning and not once did I say you would be booted from the forum.

But, since you want it this way, you are now being given an official warning for your behavior in here and your posts will be deleted as soon as I can get this referred to a moderator over this area.

This kind of behavior will not be tolerated.


your private warning was clear and to the point enough that I clearly understood I can no longer oppose you openly in the forum.

I am not stupid. I understand that you will ban me if I continually state the Word of God as revealed in His bible.

I am certain I am not the first to endure this, nor will I be the last.

I have seen lyrics reply to this, and I have to agre 100%.
I have had many arguements over everything on this forum, with him, and still happen to be here. Lyric has proven me wrong a few times (as I think I may have gotten him once or twice) But regardless.

we may differ on opinions, and differ on our interpretations, our views, and even our religion.

But the word of god is the word of god, and lyric is one of the people here that seems to know scripture very well, and what it actually means.



(weird of me to support someone I have quarraled with soo much isnt it?)
Peace, it only shows maturity to be able to have a disagreement and still know that we are all worthy of respect and a loving hand.

I find your voice, even though I don't always agree with it, to be a nice addition here.
 
Asaph said:
There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.

Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.
 
Lyric's Dad said:
Asaph said:
There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.

Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.

If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.

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Gary said:
Lyric's Dad said:
Asaph said:
There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.
Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.

Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.

If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.

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Actually, what I am saying is that we don't really know. It is wrong for any of us to make a concrete statement either way.

I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."

While I do believe that there are some people, mostly women, who choose to have a relation with the same sex due to traumatic events in their life, I find it sort of silly to label this on them all.

Again, I do not debate if the act is sinful. But like all other sins we are predisposed to commit, this is one that is legitimately part of the person. Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.

Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.
 
I have my personal theory as well. Those who claim to be Christian and spend so much time defending the Gay Agenda are actually homosexual.

:)
 
Lyric's Dad said:
...Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.
Most countries put the habitual thief into prison.

Most "ardent supporters of adultery" ultimately divorce and are eventually rejected by friends and family.

Would you also support the Thief Agenda and the Adultery Agenda with as much passion as you defend the Gay Agenda?

:D
 
Gary said:
I have my personal theory as well. Those who claim to be Christian and spend so much time defending the Gay Agenda are actually homosexual.

:)

:-D :-D :-D
 
Asaph said:
There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.

Lyric's Dad said:
Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.
Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.

Gary said:
If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.

:)

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Lyric's Dad said:
Actually, what I am saying is that we don't really know. It is wrong for any of us to make a concrete statement either way.

I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."

While I do believe that there are some people, mostly women, who choose to have a relation with the same sex due to traumatic events in their life, I find it sort of silly to label this on them all.

Again, I do not debate if the act is sinful. But like all other sins we are predisposed to commit, this is one that is legitimately part of the person. Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.

Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.

But oh my, Lyric's Dad,
Where do you come up with all of your theories?
Surely, not from th bible? You know... the book that teaches us the "holy" word of God and it teaches us all about the whiles of the Devil and how he operates? :smt017

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Lyrics Dad said:
Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual
And :o

And so, in that sense, would you deny that fact about what the word of God says about the perversions of the thoughts of man and how God's Holy word of God says Satan is the crafty influencer of sin and only comes to steal kill and destroy? Are people who only think on homosexual thoughts excluded, by your standards? :smt012 :smt017 .


If your interpretation were true, then Jesus' own words in Matthew 5:28 would be in contradiction to his explaination of the workings of lustful thoughts!
Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. "

I ask you this, Why would that be any different for the homosexual in their thoughts when they "looketh on, to lust after" ? They are in fact not exluded from that truth of commiting "a sexual act in their minds" regardless of it being a man or a woman. Do you think being married makes all the difference? NOT! When it comes to lust, is it not what a man thinks in his heart that makes it a sin or not?


Lyrics Dad, You can't void out the truth in scritpure about the minds of men in order to meet your theories on how the homosexual comes to be what they claim to be.

Why do you totally eliminate what God says about the mind of man when it comes down to your defending the minds of the person who has homosexual thoughts?
:o :o :o

God clearly teaches us about how Satan is the crafty creature, that the spirit of Satan is the one who comes to tempting man to sin. Even Jesus went through temptation of the devil, and spoke of the written word of God to cast him out of His presense.
Satan didn't leave Jesus alone until he was finished tempting Jesus! And why do you think Satan had to leave Jesus alone? Because of the Power of God's Word is the only thing that OVERCOMES the power God permits Satan to have!
Have you not read the story of Job?
God is the one who restores and heals because of man looking to God and overcoming the whiles of the devil by reliance on God! Not by doubt of God or by leaving God out of the equation! And surely, not by denying or leaving out the teachings of God! :o
Do you think the homosexual isn't being tempted of the devil in the flesh come to trick man into thinking they want a person of the same sex to mate with? :o

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Now we could just take that "theory of yours"
and pull the old switcher-oo on it and say this as truth from some other perspective than yours...


We could change it from saying this,
quote Lyrics Dad:
  • "Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

    People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual"

to this saying this:
  • People have chosen this one particular sin to defend because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to defend it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.


    8-)

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Lyric's Dad said:
I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."

And agian :o

You are exaggerating here. :-?

Actually, they didn't just wake up one day and say that!
What did happen is the "gradual" building up of Satanic influences coming to kill steal and destroy the "Holy Spirit" out of man.
And if man isn't prepared and armed with the HOLY Word of God and the belief in Christ Jesus as being that redeemer, the sword of truth!, that shows them a way of escape, then they are denying the truth in scirpture and are living in vain.

If anyone doesn't think Satan has a role in this specific sin, then they call God a liar in his description of Satan and the influences he uses in the minds of men, and deny what the bible teaches about the whiles of the Devil.

The bible starts out with showing the influence of the devil and it ends with showing the battle being won!

Now, who here denies that fact that the bible is the Holy Word of God that teaches how man, when turned away from God, is lost to sin by the demonic influences of Satan?

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

God is not liar about the temptations of the devil and the influence he has on the minds of unprepared men!

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Gary, I was thinking the very same thing! You got posted well before I finished with that 4 part post above. :lol:
 
Hey people, I have a great idea... why don't we start a thread on "Effective Witnessing".

Thses constant debates on homosexuality are wearing me out, getting very old and is causing nothing but division and dissention among the ranks here. We all know how each other feels.

This topic could go the way of the UR topics... hmm, I think I've said that before.

:sad
 
Gary said:
I have my personal theory as well. Those who claim to be Christian and spend so much time defending the Gay Agenda are actually homosexual.

:)
That does not phase me in the least.

I am not the homophobe here.

And I certainly do not defend any "gay agenda" but defend the rights of human beings to be treated with dignity against all holier then thou's such as is so clearly seen here.
 
Gary said:
Lyric's Dad said:
...Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.
Most countries put the habitual thief into prison.

Most "ardent supporters of adultery" ultimately divorce and are eventually rejected by friends and family.

Would you also support the Thief Agenda and the Adultery Agenda with as much passion as you defend the Gay Agenda?

:D
No, mostly I am just in defense of the anti-pharisee club and the agenda of those who think the Bible is a weapon to be used against those who espouse the lifestyle they are afraid someone will see they desire.
 
Relic said:
Asaph said:
There is no such thing as a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality. The notion that there is one is not science, it is propaganda.

Lyric's Dad said:
Do you have proof of this statement as there would be many on both sides of the debate that would love to see this new evidence.
Otherwise it is a slippery slope argument with only personal belief to back it up.

Gary said:
If there was a generic predisposition, the onus would be on you to prove it.

:)

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Lyric's Dad said:
Actually, what I am saying is that we don't really know. It is wrong for any of us to make a concrete statement either way.

I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."

While I do believe that there are some people, mostly women, who choose to have a relation with the same sex due to traumatic events in their life, I find it sort of silly to label this on them all.

Again, I do not debate if the act is sinful. But like all other sins we are predisposed to commit, this is one that is legitimately part of the person. Why don't we attack the habitual thief or the ardent supporter of adultery? It is always about the homosexual.

Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.

But oh my, Lyric's Dad,
Where do you come up with all of your theories?
Surely, not from th bible? You know... the book that teaches us the "holy" word of God and it teaches us all about the whiles of the Devil and how he operates? :smt017

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Lyrics Dad said:
Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual
And :o

And so, in that sense, would you deny that fact about what the word of God says about the perversions of the thoughts of man and how God's Holy word of God says Satan is the crafty influencer of sin and only comes to steal kill and destroy? Are people who only think on homosexual thoughts excluded, by your standards? :smt012 :smt017 .


If your interpretation were true, then Jesus' own words in Matthew 5:28 would be in contradiction to his explaination of the workings of lustful thoughts!
Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. "

I ask you this, Why would that be any different for the homosexual in their thoughts when they "looketh on, to lust after" ? They are in fact not exluded from that truth of commiting "a sexual act in their minds" regardless of it being a man or a woman. Do you think being married makes all the difference? NOT! When it comes to lust, is it not what a man thinks in his heart that makes it a sin or not?


Lyrics Dad, You can't void out the truth in scritpure about the minds of men in order to meet your theories on how the homosexual comes to be what they claim to be.

Why do you totally eliminate what God says about the mind of man when it comes down to your defending the minds of the person who has homosexual thoughts?
:o :o :o

God clearly teaches us about how Satan is the crafty creature, that the spirit of Satan is the one who comes to tempting man to sin. Even Jesus went through temptation of the devil, and spoke of the written word of God to cast him out of His presense.
Satan didn't leave Jesus alone until he was finished tempting Jesus! And why do you think Satan had to leave Jesus alone? Because of the Power of God's Word is the only thing that OVERCOMES the power God permits Satan to have!
Have you not read the story of Job?
God is the one who restores and heals because of man looking to God and overcoming the whiles of the devil by reliance on God! Not by doubt of God or by leaving God out of the equation! And surely, not by denying or leaving out the teachings of God! :o
Do you think the homosexual isn't being tempted of the devil in the flesh come to trick man into thinking they want a person of the same sex to mate with? :o

============================================


Now we could just take that "theory of yours"
and pull the old switcher-oo on it and say this as truth from some other perspective than yours...


We could change it from saying this,
quote Lyrics Dad:
  • "Well, since we are speaking of theories, I will give mine as to why this is.

    People have chosen this one particular sin to attack because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to attack it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual"

to this saying this:
  • People have chosen this one particular sin to defend because they have had inclinations themselves and are scared by it. They want to defend it because they don't ever want to be labeled a homosexual.


    8-)

===========================================


Lyric's Dad said:
I find it very difficult to believe that the entire homosexual community just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I think I will be gay today as I like being accosted."

And agian :o

You are exaggerating here. :-?

Actually, they didn't just wake up one day and say that!
What did happen is the "gradual" building up of Satanic influences coming to kill steal and destroy the "Holy Spirit" out of man.
And if man isn't prepared and armed with the HOLY Word of God and the belief in Christ Jesus as being that redeemer, the sword of truth!, that shows them a way of escape, then they are denying the truth in scirpture and are living in vain.

If anyone doesn't think Satan has a role in this specific sin, then they call God a liar in his description of Satan and the influences he uses in the minds of men, and deny what the bible teaches about the whiles of the Devil.

The bible starts out with showing the influence of the devil and it ends with showing the battle being won!

Now, who here denies that fact that the bible is the Holy Word of God that teaches how man, when turned away from God, is lost to sin by the demonic influences of Satan?

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

God is not liar about the temptations of the devil and the influence he has on the minds of unprepared men!

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Relic, I try, truly I do, to read your rambling diatribes with all the pretty colors but about a quarter of the way through I just realize there is nothing there and I quit. If you want to get some point across, do yourself a favor;

Cut it to a readable size

And

Don't worry about all the colors and sizes. Hey, for someone so anti-homosexual you sure are quite the interior decorator of your posts..... :-D
 
Vic said:
Hey people, I have a great idea... why don't we start a thread on "Effective Witnessing".

Thses constant debates on homosexuality are wearing me out, getting very old and is causing nothing but division and dissention among the ranks here. We all know how each other feels.

This topic could go the way of the UR topics... hmm, I think I've said that before.

:sad
Amen!
 
Lyric's Dad said:
Vic said:
Hey people, I have a great idea... why don't we start a thread on "Effective Witnessing".

Thses constant debates on homosexuality are wearing me out, getting very old and is causing nothing but division and dissention among the ranks here. We all know how each other feels.

This topic could go the way of the UR topics... hmm, I think I've said that before.

:sad
Amen!
Amen, again!!
 
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