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Have you ever noticed how western atheists/leftists support Islam but...
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EvolvingChristian
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That's exactly what I'm positing; it IS spiritual! 2 Corinthians 4:4 says so. The dark prince of this world has blinded many to the existence of God. I believe that he has blinded them to many other truths as well in order that they do his bidding. The atheistic left as well as Muslims are both blind to and opposed to Christ. The atheistic left supports transgender lifestyles, same-sex marriage, transgenders in sports, public showers with children of the opposite gender, total acceptance of homosexual behavior and more. Muslims oppose ALL of that yet, incredibly, the atheistic left supports them over Christians and Israel.
Let me ask you. Do you believe in Satanic and demonic influence in the world?
Atheists can be found all along the political spectrum
EvolvingChristian
Member
There are virtually countless numbers of them. I know because I engage with them all the time on various message boards. I also see their activism in society.
Milk-Drops
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Atheists are not that large of a voting block in the US. Let alone Left Wing Atheists. Most Left Leaning people in the US are Christian in some form.
Thetr arr Christians and Jews that have ssues with the political state of Israel. You also just made several claims without saying a single person's name. You arr aware there is a conceot called a strawman right? It is a made up person or group of people that are invented specifically for an argument.
Could you clarify what you mean by "the truth"?
Milk-Drops
Member
I'm a Left Gay Atheist. I dont hate Christianity. Most prominent left leaning Atheists I have met or consumed content of dont hate Christians. Most are nuetral on muslim people but highly Critical of Islam. Unlike you Ill give examples.
Seth Andrews
Aron Ra
Matt Dilahunty
Richard Dawkins
Christopher Hitchins
Daniel Dennet
Sam Harris
Etc.
Also most of them are pro First Amendment so they are nuetral to accepting of LGBT people as people.
This
Milk-Drops
Member
Heck, I am starting to wonder what they mean by "leftist".
I never knew what that meant until recently.
Part of my maturing process. But it is crucial to understand if healthy debate can be had.
We do sometimes create a fake evil monster in our heads. Who disagrees with a lot of what we think. The enemy. The opposite.
But reality is actually more complex than that. Imagine gay Christians? That's a contradiction for many conservative Christians to imagine.
grumix8
Member
Simple find time changes and the politics of before 2000 was more simple. We live in the future and supossedly we have flying cars and the atheist left aren't important but everything changed . I for one blame technology because it made possible different ideas thru the internet back in the 1990's i had almost never heard about muslim religion. The truth atheist weren't active like today everything has changed and the persecution of the real people of G-d has grown.
kiwimacahau
Member
Here is the leftist ideology I support:
"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
EZ,,,,if you've been around for about 50 years or so....
it is more than obvious to anyone paying attention that God is being removed
from all public institutions and public land properties. The Nativity scene comes to mind immediately.
If you haven't noticed it then I'm sorry because not only THIS freedom will be taken away, but many others.
It was even suggested that the words IN GOD WE TRUST be taken off our currency.
And have you ever noticed how MUHAMMUD!!! is never spoken as a curse word in movies...
but do you ever hear JESUS!!!
Be intellectually honest, even if you don't agree.
2 Corinthians 4:4 is speaking about those who have no Spiritual truth as they reject the Gospel being preached to them. Their eyes are blinded of Spiritual things from above as they remain worldly following after the principalities that rule over this world. Anything that is not of God in this world is that of Satan's bidding.
Do we concern ourselves with worldly things, or should we be out in the world preaching the Gospel of God's mercy and grace trying to save souls for the Lord?
1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Again, why should this concern us, other then taking the Gospel message to them the worldly will do what they want to do and we are not going to stop them. This is the point I am trying to get you to see.
We see what you see and how do you suppose in changing the world?
ezrider
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I am being intellectually honest when I say I have not seen God being removed. What I have seen is IMAGES and other forms of IDOLATRY being removed or not being allowed.
What I have noticed is Christians in an uproar and become outraged when their IDOLS are taken from them, but Muslims become outraged when someone tries to create an image of Muhammad. Um, what was the first commandment?
Why does the Nativity scene immediately come to your mind? Is the Nativity scene your God? Be intellectually honest now. Have you ever seen God?
EvolvingChristian
Member
I received your warning. You won't need to ban me as I will discontinue posting here and will find another community that engenders discussion. Enjoy your echo chamber.
ezrider
Member
Well EvolvingChristian, looks like you still have some evolving to do. I'm sure your kind of christian message would serve very well over there at fox news!
In the process of evolution, can a tare ever evolve into a wheat? These are the deep questions you should concern yourself with.
Echo Echo echo
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Images are not a form of idolatry unless that image is worshipped.
You take pictures of your family and friends. Is that idolatry?
Then why is a picture of Jesus idolatry? Or a statue of Jesus?
Definition of idolatry
1: the worship of a physical object as a god2: immoderate attachment or devotion to something
And as far as God being removed from everything...
Just now the Dems in Congress want to remove the phrase "so help me God" from someone taking an oath
as a witness in Congress.
There are so many examples and I'm not taking the time to list them.
It's like asking me if water is wet.
The 10 Commandments have been removed from some federal buildings.
School prayer is no longer recited.
You must be a young person not to know these things.
It's like asking me to prove water is wet.
Muslims become outraged and have even killed some persons that portrayed Muhammad unflateringly.
You don't know about this either?
Christians seem to be an easy target.
Why does the nativity scene have to be my god for me to like it and enjoy it?
Do you know the history of the nativity scene?
Why would you not want to see such a lovely presentation of Christ's birth and such a good reminder
of His birth?
What are you afraid of?
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Very unchristianly of both you and humble soul.Well EvolvingChristian, looks like you still have some evolving to do. I'm sure your kind of christian message would serve very well over there at fox news!
In the process of evolution, can a tare ever evolve into a wheat? These are the deep questions you should concern yourself with.
Are we here to drive members away?