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[GodsGrace]

I received your warning. You won't need to ban me as I will discontinue posting here and will find another community that engenders discussion. Enjoy your echo chamber.

Hi Evolving Christian...
I hope you don't leave.

The moderator here is speaking her belief system.
Many have this idea that we are not to concern ourselves with worldly matters.
I happen to agree with you.
We live in this world and our turning our attention to real problems is not going to make
the world more Christian but more atheist.
Sometimes I feel like we're in a losing battle and we just give up.

 

[ezrider]

Images are not a form of idolatry unless that image is worshipped.
You take pictures of your family and friends. Is that idolatry?
Then why is a picture of Jesus idolatry? Or a statue of Jesus?

I do not claim my family or friends to be God. You claim Jesus as God, and said they were removing God by taking down his image. Spin it how you like. Go ahead, justify your innocence; but it still remains a form of idol worship, else it wouldn't upset you so. Just imagine how upset Jezebel must have been with Elijah!

Just now the Dems in Congress want to remove the phrase "so help me God" from someone taking an oath
as a witness in Congress.

Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

There are so many examples and I'm not taking the time to list them.
It's like asking me if water is wet.
The 10 Commandments have been removed from some federal buildings.
School prayer is no longer recited.

Oh, so you would prefer a state sponsored religion? The Mormons think of themselves descended from the lost tribes of Israel. Their Temples are modeled after Solomon's. I'm sure they would be proud to display the ten commandments for you. Would you like them to lead your school prayers?

Why does the nativity scene have to be my god for me to like it and enjoy it?
Do you know the history of the nativity scene?
Why would you not want to see such a lovely presentation of Christ's birth and such a good reminder
of His birth?

Oh, I am not deprived of such a lovely presentation as you call it. I can see it in peoples front yards, I can see it if I drive by a Catholic Church. I am even free to watch a couple dozen Hallmark channel movies and be reminded of it.

It does not need to be displayed on public properties for me to be reminded that people still like to worship the image of a man. People are still more than free to put such displays on their private property. Well, that is unless you to belong to a home owners association, but then again, you would have had to agreed to those rules.

Some people worship the image of a man. They uphold the image of his birth, they uphold the image of his death; The image of his flesh. What does the flesh have to do with worshipping in Spirit and truth?

 

[ezrider]

Very unchristianly of both you and humble soul.

Are we here to drive members away?

Drive him away? We didn't drive him away. He had his little own tantrum, stopped his feet, threw his deck of cards on the floor, spades up; then took his keys and drove himself away. He just didn't like being questioned; only wanted people to confirm certain of his views to validate and justify his own delusions.

 

[humble soul]

Drive him away? We didn't drive him away. He had his little own tantrum, stopped his feet, threw his deck of cards on the floor, spades up; then took his keys and drove himself away. He just didn't like being questioned; only wanted people to confirm certain of his views to validate and justify his own delusions.

I'm surprised ez rider hasn't told me off yet.
My behaviour can be unreliable.
But I'm glad his world view is on here. Otherwise we would be "trumped" to death.

 

[GodsGrace]

I do not claim my family or friends to be God. You claim Jesus as God, and said they were removing God by taking down his image. Spin it how you like. Go ahead, justify your innocence; but it still remains a form of idol worship, else it wouldn't upset you so. Just imagine how upset Jezebel must have been with Elijah!

If you take a picture of them and admire it, maybe you do think they're god.
At least I admire the REAL God.
You know EZ,,,sometimes you make no sense.
And I'm not upset. You don't upset me.

Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

God also said not to use a lot of vain words in arguing with your brothers/sisters in Christ.
But you sure do love arguing with me.

What's good for the swearing,
is good for the arguing.

Oh, so you would prefer a state sponsored religion? The Mormons think of themselves descended from the lost tribes of Israel. Their Temples are modeled after Solomon's. I'm sure they would be proud to display the ten commandments for you. Would you like them to lead your school prayers?

You sure do make a lot of assumptions about me.
Do you believe we'll have the same moral values 2 generations from now?
Why do you think kids are getting meaner and more violent?
Or do you deny that too?

Oh, I am not deprived of such a lovely presentation as you call it. I can see it in peoples front yards, I can see it if I drive by a Catholic Church. I am even free to watch a couple dozen Hallmark channel movies and be reminded of it.

It does not need to be displayed on public properties for me to be reminded that people still like to worship the image of a man. People are still more than free to put such displays on their private property. Well, that is unless you to belong to a home owners association, but then again, you would have had to agreed to those rules.

Are you waiting for the day when they'll be prohibited from private property too?
That may well happen soon.
And you didn't reply as to the history of the nativity scene.
What makes you be a Christian anyway if you abhor everything Christian?

Some people worship the image of a man. They uphold the image of his birth, they uphold the image of his death; The image of his flesh. What does the flesh have to do with worshipping in Spirit and truth?

What MAN would that be?

You display your flesh every time you post to me.

 

[GodsGrace]

Drive him away? We didn't drive him away. He had his little own tantrum, stopped his feet, threw his deck of cards on the floor, spades up; then took his keys and drove himself away. He just didn't like being questioned; only wanted people to confirm certain of his views to validate and justify his own delusions.

Yes...we all have our delusions.
It's good to talk about them with other Christians...maybe shed some light on things...
instead of being upset with them and feeling like you, I mean we, know it all.

 

[ezrider]

Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

God also said not to use a lot of vain words in arguing with your brothers/sisters in Christ.
But you sure do love arguing with me.

So your saying that Jesus used a lot of vain words?

 

[ezrider]

What MAN would that be?

You display your flesh every time you post to me.

That's because you only look to the flesh.

 

[for_his_glory]

I received your warning. You won't need to ban me as I will discontinue posting here and will find another community that engenders discussion. Enjoy your echo chamber.

There is no need for you to quit posting, but maybe go back and read the Terms of Service. You do bring certain things to the plate that makes me think about certain things, but this thread is just not one that has much to be discussed for as a child of God we need not be involved in worldly affairs or worldly politics, but of Spiritual things from above. Jesus said that this world will wax worse and worse and that we need to be taking the Gospel message of God's grace and mercy out into a dying world.

 

[for_his_glory]

[ACMP=reminder]
Everyone needs to take a step back and calm yourselves down. We are to be examples of Christ and not at each others throats. Remember the greatest commandment is love.
[/ACMP]

 

[GodsGrace]

That's because you only look to the flesh.

Why do you insist on addressing what you think of ME,
instead of the comments I make?

I believe there's nothing further to discuss since you do not answer questions
or ideas.

 

[GodsGrace]

So your saying that Jesus used a lot of vain words?

How does my saying THIS:
God also said not to use a lot of vain words in arguing with your brothers/sisters in Christ.

Translate in your mind to THIS.

So your saying that Jesus used a lot of vain words?

I have nothing further to say to you.