Heard the news? Homosexual Marriage is now the law of the land

[WIP]

I agree of coarse to the reality of that.
Unfortunately, there are some gays that believe that their union is sanctified by God and so they want it to be recognized by the church as a valid marriage, not just for legal reasons. So they are willing to force the issue with the church, even if they have to get laws passed to force it on the church.

It should not be possible for that to happen for a couple reasons.

First and most important; God's law always trumps man's laws.

10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matthew 5:10-12 NKJV

15 But when they had commanded them to leave the council, they conferred with one another,
16 saying, “What shall we do with these men? For that a notable sign has been performed through them is evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it.
17 But in order that it may spread no further among the people, let us warn them to speak no more to anyone in this name.”
18 So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus.
19 But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge,
20 for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.”
Acts 4:15-20 NKJV

27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them,
28 saying, “We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man's blood upon us.”
29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.
30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree.
31 God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
32 And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”
Acts 5:27-32 NKJV


Second; the 1st amendment to our constitution, so long as it has not been repealed, protects us, the Church, from government law.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

 

[YosefHayim]

America was founded by Babylon. Christians just happened to be dragged along. Christians shouldn't be surprised by what the secular world does. Prophecy says people will be willfully stupid just to walk in their own lusts. (2 peter 3:3-5).

They shall be lovers of SELF, and of pleasure, RATHER than God. People hate the truth.

And that's that.

 

[YosefHayim]

I think it's quite foolish that Homosexuals want to be married in the place they don't believe in anyway. If they wanna get all lusty, they don't need a marriage to do that. Makes no sense. It's double standards and an orwellian paradigm.

 

[jasonc]

I must disagree as I lived in that sin.emotionally it's the same.some will remain commited.

 

[Deborah13]

It should not be possible for that to happen for a couple reasons.

I agree with all of this.
I don't see how they could ever get around the first amendment. Makes you wonder about how much God was involved in the original forming of the Constitution, a lot I think.

 

[jasonc]

I agree with all of this.
I don't see how they could ever get around the first amendment. Makes you wonder about how much God was involved in the original forming of the Constitution, a lot I think.

Supreme court and others can be wrong.if there's no difference in the contract of civil union and a marriage what is the difference?

 

[jeff77]

I know.why on earth would one go ask a group that antigay to marry you?

Pastors won't have to marry, but what about all of the other people that work at the office where marriage license are issued? I can't confirm this, but my mom told me that some marriage license offices in certain counties in Texas shut down a few days ago and nobody was able to get a license in those counties. Then there is the baker, florist, etc in the private sector.

 

[Kenny_ms]

I think it's quite foolish that Homosexuals want to be married in the place they don't believe in anyway. If they wanna get all lusty, they don't need a marriage to do that. Makes no sense. It's double standards and an orwellian paradigm.

It may be a "throw it in our face" type thing.

"See, I can do this and you can't stop me"

 

[Christ_empowered]

Homosexual unions ("marriage") isn't the same as heterosexual marriage. Even the worldiest straight people are often capable of monogamy and long lasting unions, to a point. Homosexuals...not so much. Given enough time, the number of gay dudes in marriages who cheat (a lot, often) approaches 100%. Homosexual unions are more partnerships than real marriages, sort of like affectionate roommates who sleep together...and with other people, too.

My concern is that this is going to change marriage. The way things are going, I think there's going to be more talk about open marriages, poly-amory, etc. I mean, what do expect of unbelievers, but...with some denominations going gay affirming (PCUSA, even :-( its going to affect Christians, also.

That said...marriage is a secular contract. The state shouldn't discriminate, especially considering that we've had no fault divorce on the books for 40ish years making marriage a union that lasts...until somebody decides to bail.

 

[jasonc]

Homosexual unions ("marriage") isn't the same as heterosexual marriage. Even the worldiest straight people are often capable of monogamy and long lasting unions, to a point. Homosexuals...not so much. Given enough time, the number of gay dudes in marriages who cheat (a lot, often) approaches 100%. Homosexual unions are more partnerships than real marriages, sort of like affectionate roommates who sleep together...and with other people, too.

My concern is that this is going to change marriage. The way things are going, I think there's going to be more talk about open marriages, poly-amory, etc. I mean, what do expect of unbelievers, but...with some denominations going gay affirming (PCUSA, even :-( its going to affect Christians, also.

That said...marriage is a secular contract. The state shouldn't discriminate, especially considering that we've had no fault divorce on the books for 40ish years making marriage a union that lasts...until somebody decides to bail.

my concern as well, really the government had an option of applying the law when it says so(which the right says the left does) or makin it equal. I cant be a politician as I honeslty cant make that decision.

 

[Angel]

Before we start wailing and lamenting the America we though America still was... let me point out as a Congressional Medal honorably discharged veteran that America has not been herself for a very long time. And partly due to our being in a state of denial, partly due to our increasing desensitization to the evil around us, and partly due to our own indulgence in evil acts and beliefs... we have ignored God's warnings for the last several generations and assumed that since absolute judgment has yet to fall, everything must be okay...

The other night I was watching an animated adult show, (cartoon- American Dad) that I knew in my heart God didn't want me to watch. Normally I don't care but the Spirit convicted me about the desensitization of these shows and my not being offended like i should be. Our culture is way too provocative, foul speaking, hateful, and indifferent. I need to confess my sin and start watching wholesome stuff or don't watch it all!

 

[Angel]

I agree of coarse to the reality of that.
Unfortunately, there are some gays that believe that their union is sanctified by God and so they want it to be recognized by the church as a valid marriage, not just for legal reasons. So they are willing to force the issue with the church, even if they have to get laws passed to force it on the church.

Years ago at a hospital once I met a gay man who's father was a pastor. I said to hom one day, "I want to marry a Christian man", and he said "so do i."

 

[Kenny_ms]

I used to let myself get by with watching American Dad, Family Guy, Simpsons, even SouthPark but after switching them off due to one thing or another mid show several times, they just faded out as I finally did what I kept threatening to do...stop watching...too much, even for me.

Not perfect in that department but I'm getting better.

 

[Angel]

I'm sure there is a plethora of movies that aren't raunchy or has foul language.
Older movies are awesome! My favorite "older" movie is called "Heaven Can Wait."

http://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Can-Wa...pebp=1435558018250&perid=18CCS2JGGEK733FRMC36

 

[evenifigoalone]

I already watch series with some mature content, but I tried to watch shows like American Dad and the like out of curiosity, and....not my thing. At all. If that's what "adult" shows are like, I'll be glad to stick to anime and cartoons. You can have mature and complex concepts without being all "let's be as gross and offensive and unfunny as possible". Like, seriously, it's like they think all adults care about is "adult" content and laughing at it. Oddly enough some children's cartoons actually have better writing anyway.

 

[Tony Hyman]

There goes another big crack in the wall of 1 Cor 6:9 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the Kingdom of God.?Do not be decieved:Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders ."
Regarding the behavior associated with homosexuality there is this view ."Gender race and impairment all relate to what a person is Whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does" (Pastor Andrew Lanson, Task Force on Human Sexuality. Baptist Union Western Australia ,Lamont, creation.com)You can take a horse to the water, that's about it.But still the Christian world must not stop fighting the forces of darkness.Maybe God will spare us as he did Abraham with only a few obedient folks still around," The Lord said , 'If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom. I will spare, the whole place for their sake.'(Gen 18 :27-33)even down to 10 didn't could not be found to save the day.But we have a loving and patient God, just how long His patience will hold out is anybody's guess.America is not alone in thats for sure.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I think part of my problem is that the American media influences people the world over, and our media is now gay-affirming to the max. I feel like we may be exporting a lot of our own immorality, basically.

 

[Kenny_ms]

You can have mature and complex concepts without being all "let's be as gross and offensive and unfunny as possible". Like, seriously, it's like they think all adults care about is "adult" content and laughing at it.

Those cartoons seem to be all about the "shock" value combined with something most can relate too and though some of the stuff can be hilarious as well as clean enough, I don't know if it's because they aren't intelligent enough to come up with enough clean content week after week to make a show without the junk, or they just don't want too.

King of the Hill worked fine for me and it ran a long time so, it can be done. Makes perfect sense though, we'd have the one decent mainstream cartoon up against 3 or 4 not so decent

I guess Macfarlane, for instance, is who he is and in turn, does what he does and he does have formula that works for sales. Thing is, many shows will at least make some money with lots of nudity and shock factors, so maybe we just need some better writers that don't need to taint their work with junk in order to make it sell.

Yep, that's just what I need, another show to keep me glued to the screen.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Those cartoons seem to be all about the "shock" value combined with something most can relate too and though some of the stuff can be hilarious as well as clean enough, I don't know if it's because they aren't intelligent enough to come up with enough clean content week after week to make a show without the junk, or they just don't want too.

King of the Hill worked fine for me and it ran a long time so, it can be done. Makes perfect sense though, we'd have the one decent mainstream cartoon up against 3 or 4 not so decent

I guess Macfarlane, for instance, is who he is and in turn, does what he does and he does have formula that works for sales. Thing is, many shows will at least make some money with lots of nudity and shock factors, so maybe we just need some better writers that don't need to taint their work with junk in order to make it sell.

Yep, that's just what I need, another show to keep me glued to the screen.

I caught King of the Hill once. I thought it wasn't bad.
I watch some anime with questionable content. One of them has a lot of what is known as "fan service", but I like it in spite of that. (And it's not a point of temptation to me.) The story and plot is interesting, as are the characters. Whereas in these "adult" shows and cartoons, it seems that neither the characters nor the writing are likable most of the time.

 

[jasonc]

lol, king of the hill. we have a hank in my mp company.