Her immaculate foot

[thessalonian]

oops

 

[thessalonian]

I just did a little study. There are about 10 in 147 Catholic Churches named after Christ in some fashion. There are about 16 in 190 Baptist Churches named in some fashion after Christ. It would seem that the percentages are similar and that this issue is a red herring.

Blessings

 

[cj]

Put yer boots on boys, OC and Thess are on a role.......


Check out this ignorance,

I don't know how many ways a diocese can name churches after Christ without repeating, which they don't do. There is cordination among the names so that there are not duplicates in a diocese, unlike Protestant Churches.

Ya gotta laugh, and cry at the same time.

".... a "diocese" can name churches after Christ....."

Oh boy. These folks speak having no clue as to the truth of the darkness they speak.


".... a diocese can name churches after Christ...."




Saints, this is the death that issues from false doctrines.




On another note, just a heads-up on the matter of worship,......

To truly worship one must truly serve. Therefore, regarding the Pope, he is worshipped/served in two ways, in full knowledge and in ignorance.

Worshipping the Pope in full knowledge is carried out by a person making a conscious decision of the will to do everything necessary to perpetuate all the falsity that the position of the Pope represents. Examples of this are the men who work in the Vatican.

On the other side of the coin (for the apostate institution loves coin) is found worshipping in ignorance. To worship in ignorance is to be blind to the truth of what you are really doing.

For instance, many Romanist believers throw money into ponds that are positioned at the feet of female statues believing that some miricle will come out of them doing so. But what they are really doing, in ignorance, is financially supporting the apostate machine, and giving themselves into the bondage of the false doctrines of this institution. And by doing this, even as they head to the late-night New Years party after attending "midnight-mass" (and yes, I know this as a fact) thinking "I've done good, I went to church on the last/first day of the year", what they believe they participated in is not really what they participated in.

Its like the made-for-dummies Palm Sunday palm-leaf fraud. Here you have people, kids even, believing that the palm-cross they made is symbolic of something christian, and all it is is more deception, contrived to bring the many under the ruling of the few.


Shameless wickedness; on the part of the leading ones because they knowingly give themselves to the deception, and on the part of the many, because their blindness is an issue of a disregard for the truth.

Peter had no idea that he was worshipping/serving Satan when he told the Lord He could not go to Jerusalem.

Even worse, Jesus told Peter that not only was he worshipping serving Satan,.... but that he was actually Satan expressed at that moment.

Jesus declared we are either for Him or against Him, there is no inbetween.

Yet, I am fully convinced that there are some believers who remain in the gilted halls of the Romanist institution who are saved and even will be found to have overcomer.

How so? I don't know, But I know that this is what is revealed to us in the verses from the book of Revelation.

Somehow, the Lord is His great widom has managed to gain the soul life of a few believers who have remained in these apostate institutions, and for this we thank Him. But the majority will suffer loss, and for this we declare Him righteous in His judgement.

To worship is to serve, and it matters not if we are conscious about it or not.


In love,
cj

 

[cj]

And so we see the true desire of OC and his cronies,....... that which reflects the wickedness of the apostate institutions they worship and serve.



Just as these institution lust after "ownership" of the many believers, so too does OC lust after "ownership" of the discussions of believers on these boards.



It truly is pathetic to watch isn't it.

A grown man needing an image to prop up his ego. An image to declare his prowness.

Really, its like they need these religious institutions as a form of declaring their manhood,..... the phallic symbol of the tall steeple tha rises above the rooflines of the homes around it, pompously declaring "LOOK AT ME, I"M ABOVE YOU, AND I OWN YOU ALL."

"OWNED",........ and you over there,.... "OWNED",.... and you also, you are "OWNED"....... and on and on.


Anyone ever see a dog bark at a plane as it flys by. Pretty vain isn't it. Kinda dumb too.


Ahh well.

In love,
cj

 

[thessalonian]

God bless you CJ.

 

[cj]

God bless you CJ.

God bless us all Thess.


In love,
cj

 

[Orthodox Christian]

And so we see the true desire of OC and his cronies,....... that which reflects the wickedness of the apostate institutions they worship and serve.



Just as these institution lust after "ownership" of the many believers, so too does OC lust after "ownership" of the discussions of believers on these boards.



It truly is pathetic to watch isn't it.

A grown man needing an image to prop up his ego. An image to declare his prowness.

Really, its like they need these religious institutions as a form of declaring their manhood,..... the phallic symbol of the tall steeple tha rises above the rooflines of the homes around it, pompously declaring "LOOK AT ME, I"M ABOVE YOU, AND I OWN YOU ALL."

"OWNED",........ and you over there,.... "OWNED",.... and you also, you are "OWNED"....... and on and on.


Anyone ever see a dog bark at a plane as it flys by. Pretty vain isn't it. Kinda dumb too.


Ahh well.

In love,
cj

CJ, baptized in pickle juice, they've x-rayed and cat scanned and cannot find a funny bone in your body.

Look at this vicious, hate-filled image:

I'm sure building my ego by representing myself as the larger of two babies, now aren't I?

ROFL
Lighten up, Darth Vader.

I can't say that I've ever seen a dog bark at a plane, but I've seen them attack legs, as you are inclined to do.

Now set back a moment and consider how ironic it is for you to complian about the comportment of anyone on this board- after all, you constantly correct and harangue others.

Further- anyone who brags of his 6'4" height on this board- as you did- or his ability to prevail in a fight, as you have- seems somewhat less than credible when downing religious traditions whose churches are physically imposing structures.

You must have been born without a sense of irony.
James

 

[Lewis]

Ok, Ok I am sorry, brother Thess. But that still does not change my thinking about the RCC.

 

[thessalonian]

That's the spirit Lewis.

I am sure all will accept your apology, as I do.

God bless

 

[AwedbyGod]

Is there some sort of online application to be one of OC's "cronies"? Or am I considered one by default because I tend to agree with him?

By the way, cj... OC and Thess are on a ROLL not a ROLE. Your posts look even more ignorant when you make mistakes like that with simple English grammar.

 

[D46]

By the way, cj... OC and Thess are on a ROLL not a ROLE. Your posts look even more ignorant when you make mistakes like that with simple English grammar.

I fail to see the significance in that. Anyone who believes our soon coming King has to bow his head in humble obediance to any priest in the four corners of the globe, and be transformed into a cookie for all to partake of, should certainly believe that OC and Thess can be on a role. :-? Is this an English class or a Christian forum? You need to look at the many spelling errors and quickly typed mistakes we all make-O, perfect one.

I fail also in seeing the relevance in whatever certain Catholic Churches are called in any area of the country. I've been the photographer at weddings at several different Catholic churches in my area from the "Immaculate Conception Catholic Church" downtown to "All Satints Catholic Church" just a few miles from here and they all teach the same idolatrous practices regardless of what's on the marquis. I see no reason for Lewis having to apologize for this. Some here will pick a statement to death to prove someone wrong and it doesn't matter what their personal beliefs are, they will dissect a sentence to pieces in hopes of finding some error in it...be it spelling or doctrine. We will NOT agree with each other on beliefs as we are all a product of our environment, teachings, what we have heard, read or seen. I fault no one for what they were brought up in-we all didn't have a choice in that. We do have a choice as an adult to continue in that belief (wheter it be Catholicism, Lutheran doctrine, Mormonism, JW, etc.) and be damned for all eternity or, accept the teachings of Christ and what the Apostles taught after Jesus' ascension. And, what the Apostles taught afterwards, is not what is taught by the Catholic church.

Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

1Corinthians 16:22 (KJV) If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

 

[Lewis]

Thanks Dave.

 

[Orthodox Christian]

By the way, cj... OC and Thess are on a ROLL not a ROLE. Your posts look even more ignorant when you make mistakes like that with simple English grammar.

I fail to see the significance in that. Anyone who believes our soon coming King has to bow his head in humble obediance to any priest in the four corners of the globe, and be transformed into a cookie for all to partake of, should certainly believe that OC and Thess can be on a role. :-? Is this an English class or a Christian forum? You need to look at the many spelling errors and quickly typed mistakes we all make-O, perfect one.

Firstly, Thess is my homie, not my cronie. Same goes for AwedbyGod.

Second, anyone who cannot bow his head to his fellow man, priest or child, will likely never see the Lord in His coming.

Third, as a good Evangelical said, if the bible said Jonah swallowed the whale, he'd believe it. The bible says the Eucharist is the Body and Blood, skeptics be damned.

Fourth, spelling corrections are a bit tedious, but near as much so as the constant drip-drip-drip of that leaky faucet of malice, CJ

I fail also in seeing the relevance in whatever certain Catholic Churches are called in any area of the country. I've been the photographer at weddings at several different Catholic churches in my area from the "Immaculate Conception Catholic Church" downtown to "All Satints Catholic Church" just a few miles from here

The relevance is quite clear, being as Heidi and Lewis both said there was no Catholic Churches named after Christ. Lewis was kind enough to admit his mistake, but now we have you stepping in, without even reading the context.
Please read before replying/opining.

]and they all teach the same idolatrous practices regardless of what's on the marquis.

Here is a Marquis

I think you were looking for a marquee

Or have you actually seen a French Nobleman wearing the name of a Church on his blouse?

Ok, it was a spell- lame, I couldn't help myself. Let's press on:

I see no reason for Lewis having to apologize for this. Some here will pick a statement to death to prove someone wrong and it doesn't matter what their personal beliefs are, they will dissect a sentence to pieces in hopes of finding some error in it...be it spelling or doctrine. We will NOT agree with each other on beliefs as we are all a product of our environment, teachings, what we have heard, read or seen. I fault no one for what they were brought up in-we all didn't have a choice in that. We do have a choice as an adult to continue in that belief (wheter it be Catholicism, Lutheran doctrine, Mormonism, JW, etc.) and be damned for all eternity or, accept the teachings of Christ and what the Apostles taught after Jesus' ascension. And, what the Apostles taught afterwards, is not what is taught by the Catholic church.

You were doing very well until those last few sentences. We all have a choice, and a responsibility, to investigate, pray about, and consider our way and our affiliations. Just because you happen to believe that the Catholic way is not the Apostles way does not make it so. In fact, you'd be a great deal better off to attempt a positive defense of your own belief than to run this empty rhetoric at Catholics.

And I think Lewis is able to discern for himself what he does and does not need to apologize for.

Are you accustomed to speaking for Lewis?

 

[thessalonian]

I fail also in seeing the relevance in whatever certain Catholic Churches are called in any area of the country.

That's why I said it's a red herring. Lewis is the one who tried to make it relevant. Apparently your not following the conversation.

I see no reason for Lewis having to apologize for this.

That's not what he was apologizing for. You need to know what you are talking about before you speak. Read my last 5 posts and you'll have it. Apparently you trivialize bearing false witness. Apparently to you it is okay to bear false witness against someone or some organization if they are Catholic.

Some here will pick a statement to death to prove someone wrong and it doesn't matter what their personal beliefs are, they will dissect a sentence to pieces in hopes of finding some error in it...be it spelling or doctrine.

This wasn't spelling or doctrine. It was easy to pick it appart because it was flat out wrong.

We will NOT agree with each other on beliefs as we are all a product of our environment, teachings, what we have heard, read or seen.

Ah, now at least someone is admitting this. Essentially admitting that we all have TRADITIONS and they make it difficult for us to see other's point of view.

I fault no one for what they were brought up in-we all didn't have a choice in that. We do have a choice as an adult to continue in that belief (wheter it be Catholicism, Lutheran doctrine, Mormonism, JW, etc.) and be damned for all eternity or, accept the teachings of Christ and what the Apostles taught after Jesus' ascension. And, what the Apostles taught afterwards, is not what is taught by the Catholic church.

Oh, contraire my friend.

Blessings

 

[Lewis]

Second, anyone who cannot bow his head to his fellow man, priest or child, will likely never see the Lord in His coming.

Would not that depend, on what you are bowing for ? Is it because it is a older person and you respect them, or is it because you speaking to a person, or is this person a king, or is this person the pope who is held as the holy father, here on earth ?

 

[Orthodox Christian]

Second, anyone who cannot bow his head to his fellow man, priest or child, will likely never see the Lord in His coming.

Would not that depend, on what you are bowing for ? Is it because it is a older person and you respect them, or is it because you speaking to a person, or is this person a king, or is this person the pope who is held as the holy father, here on earth ?

Fantastic question- I can see we are within inches of agreement. Certainly bowing the head in respect for the person- and especially for the image of Christ in the person- is appropriate.

Now it is conceivable that people can idolize and superhumanize their Pope, their priest, their Pastor, their President, their bible teacher...but it is also very possible to truly honor them.

As you imply, it is what is in the heart and mind of the person who does the bowing.

Isn't this also true in all things? Especially in our worship of God- where honoring with lips, but not with heart, is death.

Think about it, Lewis, I think we mostly agree. Now, try to see if a Catholic honoring their Primate/highest bishop with the right heart and respect for the authority God gave to the Church is not, indeed, a sensible and even Godly thing to do.

 

[D46]

Here is a Marquis

Ah, you did find the error I purposely put in. Great! I figured someone would, and; I'm glad I've been corrected by one most holy and high. That should put another bell on the hem of your garmet.

Just because you happen to believe that the Catholic way is not the Apostles way does not make it so.

Oh, yes it does. The Apostles didn't teach what Catholicism teaches.

Are you accustomed to speaking for Lewis?

I will now and then if I deem it necessary. Hope you don't have too big of a problem with that because it doesn't matter.

You need to know what you are talking about before you speak. Read my last 5 posts and you'll have it. Apparently you trivialize bearing false witness. Apparently to you it is okay to bear false witness against someone or some organization if they are Catholic.

I ALWAYS know from whence I speak and don't need you or anyone else telling me how to do it or in what manner to do it. No one bears false witness against another organization or religion if they tell the truth about what they're about. I think most of us know the facade that Catholicism hides under without having to misrepresent it in any way. the Internet is full of websites on the errors of the RCC as there are hundreds of books and pamplets on this false religious system. Oddly enough, there's more about this apostate religion than any other five combined. That should tell you something. Then again....

 

[Orthodoxy]

[quote="Lewis W":cbcc2]

Second, anyone who cannot bow his head to his fellow man, priest or child, will likely never see the Lord in His coming.

Would not that depend, on what you are bowing for ? Is it because it is a older person and you respect them, or is it because you speaking to a person, or is this person a king, or is this person the pope who is held as the holy father, here on earth ?

Fantastic question- I can see we are within inches of agreement. Certainly bowing the head in respect for the person- and especially for the image of Christ in the person- is appropriate.

Now it is conceivable that people can idolize and superhumanize their Pope, their priest, their Pastor, their President, their bible teacher...but it is also very possible to truly honor them.

As you imply, it is what is in the heart and mind of the person who does the bowing.

Isn't this also true in all things? Especially in our worship of God- where honoring with lips, but not with heart, is death.

Think about it, Lewis, I think we mostly agree. Now, try to see if a Catholic honoring their Primate/highest bishop with the right heart and respect for the authority God gave to the Church is not, indeed, a sensible and even Godly thing to do.[/quote:cbcc2]

Christ is in our midst!

I am reminded of our Sunday of Forgiveness where we all make three prostrations (Knelling before each other and bowing at the waste) before each other and say these words "Forgive me a sinner my brother/sister, as God forgives I forgive". Fulfilling the words in James "confess your sins one to another". These words are also fulfilled in a good confession to ones spiritual father but to really honor each other is rather impressive. There are normally 100 people in attendance at this service in our parish.

At each service there are some members that bow to the entire congregation. The priest bows to the congregation and asks forgiveness at every Liturgy. We honor the saints that the icons represent with a bow and a kiss. If only children treated their real parents in this manner and with this honor!

I bow to you, my brother, to the "image and likeness of Jesus Christ" found in you. I greet you with a holy kiss because to me you are the image of my God.

Your unworthy servant,

Kyril

 

[thessalonian]

I ALWAYS know from whence I speak and don't need you or anyone else telling me how to do it or in what manner to do it. No one bears false witness against another organization or religion if they tell the truth about what they're about.

You don't this time and your making a fool of yourself. The issue was not about doctrine. You disagree with our doctrine. Nothing new. But Lewis made a verifiably incorrect statement about the naming of Catholic Churches. He was called on it and graciously admitted to his error. You however are so virently anti-Catholic that you can't even see through the smoke coming out your ears. That's too bad.

I think most of us know the facade that Catholicism hides under without having to misrepresent it in any way. the Internet is full of websites on the errors of the RCC as there are hundreds of books and pamplets on this false religious system. Oddly enough, there's more about this apostate religion than any other five combined. That should tell you something. Then again....

The internet is so full of errors about Catholicsm. What it proves is the great hatred for Christ's Church. The great hatred for truth. The hatred for authority and the desire of men to be their own supreme authority, claiming individually to know best what scripture means. Rebellion is not an uncommon problem with mankind and Protestantism feeds the pride that generates it. There is no submission to anything with this system. That Protestants can't see that they misrepresent it to the point of biggotry and essentially claim that the Catholics don't know what they are talking about when the point out the contradictions is the height of arrogance and denial.

Bless you though D46

 

[D46]

Well, bless God, we continue to disagree but, know this, Thess-I hold no animosity toward the Catholic people themselves. It's the system I detest and how it has led multiplied million if not billions astray. As I said in another post, we are the product of what we were taught and chose to believe. Obviously, we can't all be right. We can debate until Jesus comes and still there will be no understanding of each others beliefs because we are all right in our own minds. Fortunately, I know I'm right! If the RCC is the only true and faithful Church of Christ, perhaps you can explain some of the following similarities...

-[ Baal is The "Catholic" God ]-
DOCTRINES OF THE PAGAN SUN GODS,
DOCTRINES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

1. The nativity of the Sun, the birth of Tammuz Dec. 25

The nativity of Jesus, or "Christmas" is held on December 25

2. The Midsummer festival of the Pagan was held on June 24 of each year

The Nativity of St. John is held every year on June 24

3. The assumption of Semiramus who became the mother godess of all Pagans

The assumption of Mary, who became the mother of God to all Catholics


4. The mother goddess was given the title, and worshipped as the Queen of Heaven. Jer. 7:18

The Virgin Mary is given the title, and worshipped as the Queen of Heaven by all Catholics.

4. "Queen of Heaven" is wrath subduer of the Pagan god

Mary, "Queen of Heaven" subdues the wrath of Christ and His Father against sinners.

5. Cakes decorated to the goddess with a "+" drawn on it. Jer. 44:17,19

Hot cross buns are backed for Mary in most Roman Catholic churches

6. 40 days fasting before Easter for Tammuz, Ezek. 8:14

Catholics fast 40 days (Lent) before Easter

7. Sexual festival of Easter. Ezek 8:16

The Roman Catholic church initiated the sexual festival of Easter first in Christiandom

8. The resurrection of Tammuz on Easter, and the procession of graven images during Easter holy week

All Roman Catholic churches parade partake in processions of graven images of Jesus, Mary, and Peter, and of the saints during Easter week

9. Veneration of graven images of Baal, Ishtar, Tammuz and lesser gods in the heavens

All Roman Catholic churches venerate graven images of Jesus, Mary, Peter, and of the "lesser" saints in the heavens

10. The belief of the constant immortality of the soul, and burning place of eternal torment

Rome teaches the belief of immortality of the soul and a burning place of eternal torment

11. Pagans believed in the doctrine of purgatory

Rome teaches the doctrine of purgatory

12. The belief of the dead visiting the living on a certain day each year. A feast is then held for all the dead on first day of November. (Called all souls day)

Rome teaches they must hold a festival for the dead on all souls day held Nov. 2, and all saints day held Nov. 1 of each year

13. Burning incense and candles Jer 11:17; Ezek 8:11.

Rome, as well as every Satanic church burns incense and candles in their "masses"

14. Chants and repetitive prayers. Beaded prayer chains.

Rome as well as Satanists use chants and the beaded prayer chains. (Rome calls the chant "Gregorian chant" and the beaded chained "Rosary")

15. Symbol of the cross as symbol of Sun worship. Mesopotamian cylinder seals of old have been found that depicted the "cross in the sky" as a symbol of sun worship. Ancient carvings of an Assyrian kings have also had huge crosses carved on their chest. The oldest pictures in the world from Mesopotamia has text with is explaining the "cross" in the sky as the symbol for the sun. This particular archeological find is on display at the University Museum in Philadelphia PA.

The Roman Catholic church displays a plus sign "+" cross symbol not only on the walls, paintings, windows, and roofs of their churches. Their priests also have these crosses on their clothing. Many other churches also use them and even place them inside a circle as a double symbol of Baal. The crucifix itself is an elongated version of the cross of Baal as well. Pagan Rome of old offered human sacrifices to Baal on these crosses as well.

16. Pagans wear amulets and idols to scare away evil spirits.

Roman Catholicism teaches the wearing of crucifixes and medals as a method of protection. The scapular is proof of that fact.

17. The round disk "sun" wafer with the IHS symbol for Isis, Horus & Seb, was eaten as food for the soul and worshipped as Baal incarnate.

The Roman Catholic Eucharist / wafer also has the IHS carvings on it for Isis, Horus, and Seb. And it is also given as food for the soul, and is worshipped as god incarnate.

18. Pagan's would paint the child Tammuz and his mother Semiramus with the glory of the Sun around their heads.

Rome paints the child Jesus and his mother Mary with halos of the Sun around their heads

19. Pagan's performed infant baptism, and the sprinkling of holy water.

Rome practices infant baptism, as well as the sprinkling of holy water

20. Pagans taught Necromancy (Talking to the dead).

Rome teaches Mysticism (Novenas/prayers to the dead)

21. The first day of the week kept sacred to honor the Persian sun god Mithra. The name of the day was changed to "SUN"day.

Rome admitted they changed the Sabbath from day 7 to day one in honor of "SUN"day

22. The title Pontifex Maximus was given to the chief head of the pagan Babylonian system of idolatry.

The title Pontifex Maximus is the main title of the Popes of Rome

23. Pagan gods (Janus and Cybele) were believed to be holders of the keys to Heaven and Hell.

The pope claims to have the keys of Peter within his clutches

24. The highest Pagan priest kings was carried on a throne to the to the Temple of his god in special ceremony.

The Pope is carried on a portable throne to the Basilica of St. Peter (Sedia Gestoria) in special ceremony

25. The Pagan high priest king is believed to be the incarnate of the Sun god.

The Pope proclaims to be Jesus Christ in the flesh on Earth

26. Pagan are taught to perform offerings of "good works" to appease the gods.

Catholics are required to do penance, purchase indulgences, and perform many good works to gain salvation.

There are many more. If this is not enough to convince anyone of the roots of Catholicism, you're beyond help and possibly redemption unless you repent.

Have a good evening!

8-)