How Can The U.S.A. Reduse Mass Shootings?

[OzSpen]

Pollyanna notions is a descriptive term for attitudes ascribed to little innocent girls who think life is always and only just wonderful. Grown ups may let them have their illusions, knowing that such is ignorant.

And????

 

[Obadiah]

You said you knew the meaning of the words in Rom 12:19 (ESV). Would you now provide us with your exegesis of those terms and the sources for your exegesis?

The words mean what they mean as I already explained. I don't know what you want here and you refuse to answer so its starting to look like you're just throwing up a smoke screen.

Defense is not vengeance.

The scripture you are citing doesn't say I can't defend myself.

Scripture never said a gun can only be used for vengeance as you claimed.

That's all.

This whole thread looks like it's turning into nothing but an ungodly insult-fest of an argument, so I've said what I have to say and will leave you to the rest of it.

 

[reba]

Tis the season of what?

 

[evenifigoalone]

Closed for moderator review.

 

[saracd70]

Point made. Weaponry in uses by "christians" have long been the NORM.

Maybe we can talk about the Swiss guard?

http://www.guns.com/2014/04/13/guns-swiss-guard/

Or perhaps the Russian Orthodox's support of Putin's military incursion into Syria?
http://www.christiantoday.com/artic...syria.to.protect.christians/66312.htm?email=1
http://www.christiantoday.com/artic...syria.to.protect.christians/66312.htm?email=1

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[humble soul]

Stop shooting at Catholic masses?

 

[WIP]

It seems lately that if there's news of a gun shot the media, which is generally anti-gun, will immediately label it a mass shooting.

 

[jaybo]

It seems lately that if there's news of a gun shot the media, which is generally anti-gun, will immediately label it a mass shooting.

Can you give any examples? "The media" -- whatever that means -- generally report on public shootings involving multiple deaths. It's impossible to report daily on every single shooting in the US; there are far too many.

There is no basis for saying that "the media" is "generally anti-gun". If there is, how about some evidence?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Is it possible? Your spiritual biblical views.

2 Chr 7:14

 

[WIP]

Can you give any examples? "The media" -- whatever that means -- generally report on public shootings involving multiple deaths. It's impossible to report daily on every single shooting in the US; there are far too many.

There is no basis for saying that "the media" is "generally anti-gun". If there is, how about some evidence?

I don't know if I could find a specific example now because I do not remember where the event took place but I do recall an incident somewhat recently where one person was shot and it was reported as a mass shooting.

For anti-gun evidence, I'll give you an example but it is only from my memory because again, I do not recall precisely when or where this happened but only what was reported. I do clearly remember thinking how they lacked integrity, as usual, in their reporting. What I recall was an incident where a person killed some people and that person used a shotgun but the news report highlighted images of an AR-15 during their report. There wasn't even an AR-15 in possession of the assailant but that's the image the media portrayed. If you're expecting me to locate a copy of the video, I will not be able to provide one.

I remember another incident when the news media portrayed images of handguns while reporting about a shooting that did not involve any handguns at all.

Pay closer attention yourself and you'll notice some of these subtle things they do to sway public opinion.

 

[jaybo]

I don't know if I could find a specific example now because I do not remember where the event took place but I do recall an incident somewhat recently where one person was shot and it was reported as a mass shooting.

For anti-gun evidence, I'll give you an example but it is only from my memory because again, I do not recall preciseley when or where this happened but only what was reported. I do clearly remember thinking how they lacked integrity, as usual, in their reporting. What I recall was an incident where a person killed some people and that person used a shotgun but the news report highlighted images of an AR-15 during their report. There wasn't even an AR-15 in possession of the assailant but that's the image the media portrayed. If you're expecting me to locate a copy of the video, I will not be able to provide one.

I remember another incident when the news media portrayed images of handguns while reporting about a shooting that did not involve any handguns at all.

Pay closer attention yourself and you'll notice some of these subtle things they do to sway public opinion.

a) That's a long way from ""the media" is "generally anti-gun" that you wrote earlier.
b) Saying that you remember a few incidents that used the wrong graphics is not a very convincing argument.
c) Pay closer attention yourself and you'll notice some of these subtle things people do to sway public opinion.

 

[Christ_empowered]

i don't know what to make of all this gun violence (the mass shooting kind) going on in the US, right now. ugh. :-(

back when I was still talking to my elderly Pentecostal friend, there was one making the news, and she sighed and something like "I hope the democrats don't use this as an excuse to take our guns away," and...

ok, I let that slide and all...but really?!?!? And I don't think she's the only church going, conservative Christian who thinks that way. and...

i dunno. i didn't grow up with guns, never had any interest. now...I'm recovering from the shock treatments and everything, and its dawned on me; the US, especially The Bible Belt, is flooded with guns and often other forms of artillery, even in "respectable" homes and such. in a not too distant little town a while back, a very young child was fatally shot during some sort of accident...parents were responsible gun owners and all that good stuff, but...I don't think the risk is ever 0, especially in families with kids. there's a park named after the child, now. :-(

 

[jaybo]

The OP subject is: how can the USA reduce mass shootings.

The best way is to reinforce the entire Second Amendment...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Clearly the intent is that there be a trained militia (National Guard, police) to protect the nation's security. This has nothing to do with people buying guns and taking the law into their own hands.

BTW, I am a gun owner.

 

[humble soul]

Don't let the mentally ill anywhere near a gun.........
Is what some will say. ........
Strictly speaking ,
there are a lot of us come under the umbrella of mentally ill.

 

[OzSpen]

It seems lately that if there's news of a gun shot the media, which is generally anti-gun, will immediately label it a mass shooting.

WIP,

You could do what we've done in Australia after the Port Arthur mass shootings in Tasmania in 1996. Thirty-five people were killed by the one man, Martin Bryant.

Australia's response was gun control: "In an Age poll of 2058 Australians taken on 3-5 May 1996, 90 per cent of those surveyed supported a national ban on all automatic and semi-automatic firearms, 88 per cent supported firearms registration, 73 per cent thought that gun owners should pay an annual registration fee for each gun they own, and 69 per cent thought that gun owners should be required to store their guns at an armoury or with the police."

It took one massacre for Australia to embrace gun control.

I can't see that happening in the USA for 2 main reasons:

(1) Your 2nd Amendment, and
(2) The strong influence of the National Rifle Association in the USA

Oz

 

[OzSpen]

The OP subject is: how can the USA reduce mass shootings.

The best way is to reinforce the entire Second Amendment...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Clearly the intent is that there be a trained militia (National Guard, police) to protect the nation's security. This has nothing to do with people buying guns and taking the law into their own hands.

BTW, I am a gun owner.

jaybo,

Why do you own a gun? I'm not a gun owner and never will be.

Oz

 

[jaybo]

jaybo,

Why do you own a gun? I'm not a gun owner and never will be.

Oz

When I was younger I used to hunt (for food!) but no longer do so. However, I enjoy the zen-like precision of target shooting so I still shoot regularly. I also enjoy shooting historical reproductions of black powder rifles.

If none of these activities is something that you want to do, that's fine.

 

[Edward]

a very young child was fatally shot during some sort of accident...parents were responsible gun owners and all that good stuff,

But they couldn't have been all that responsible if a kid got shot, don't you think?

I grew up with loaded guns all over the house. My kids grew up with loaded guns all over the house. Nothing bad ever happened there.

 

[jasonc]

9th Circuit judge writes of gun control's racist origins

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals threw out California’s ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines, Friday, Aug. 14, saying the law violates the U.S. Constitution’s protection of the right to bear firearms. There is a story from The Associated Press in The Village News...

www.villagenews.com

 

[jasonc]

i ssuggest before anyone claims gun owner ship isn't a right and then says cops are part of a racist system read up on gun control and how the kkk had free reign .

jim crow is easy to find history ,a. few sheriff wouldn't respond to calls from,blacks and enforced segration brutally one was a grand dragon!

the nra started as one to push for gun control ,ironically