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[jocor]

John the Baptist was Spirit filled. Luke 1:15

Yes he was. However, I believe there is a difference between being "filled with the Holy Spirit" under the Old Covenant and having the indwelling Spirit under the New Covenant (the latter being what I was referring to in my post).

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Spirit was not yet given; because that Yeshua was not yet glorified.)​

This suggests to me that the Holy Spirit given to indwell New Covenant believers is somehow different than the Holy Spirit John was filled with. Was the Apostle John wrong? Was John the Baptist "given" the Holy Spirit before Yeshua was glorified?

 

[Ph8th]

Was John "given" the Holy Spirit before Yeshua was glorified?

Yes as were many of God s chosen and were led by Holy Sprit
Ezekiel 36:27 (NASB)

27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.

 

[jocor]

Yes as were many of God s chosen and were led by Holy Sprit
Ezekiel 36:27 (NASB)

27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.

Ezek 36:27 refers to the New Covenant. So are you saying the Apostle John was mistaken in John 7:39?

 

[JCitoL]

I'm going to admit something to you, I ain't never going to get it. You begin speaking as a believer and then, in a manor that, just, screeches of heresy, a topic to never be taken lightly.

You, as I said, begin with the Bible but then you go into Star Wars and believe me, fantasy has no part with reality and the Bible is reality and it says nothing about past, future nor does it mention alternate Eternities/Realities.

And where did you get the JW thing from? I said nothing of the kind.

i am not an inquisitor to force you to believe in the truth, and the biblical scriptures are not well/perfectly explained and arranged schoolbooks, but on the contrary, the believer has to seek the righteousness of That Who really is the true Lord God, because the truth may also be bitter, that's why it was said:

Hebrews 3:7-8 "the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:"

or as it was also evidenced:

Revelation 10:9-10 "I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter."

for the same reason the Lord, Jesus, said:

John 16:12 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now."

that is why i also have not dared to tell/explain you more

i said i am not of the jehovah's witnesses, because so far there were people who asked me whether i am one of them when they heard/read i am a witness of God

Blessings

 

[JCitoL]

In JCitol's defense I believe he may have or live in a background populace that is engaged with eastern mysticism and "the different spirits" that the populace engages there. Just guessing though. He does write a lot about Hindu/Buddhist (anti) spiritual matters i.e. he is against those practices, which usually means that is what he's being exposed to.

It may also entail some language difficulties.

the spiritual/religious tradition(s) of india is(are) the most satanic, despite all that (great) euphoria, delight, magnetism, bliss, nirvana and sublimity with signs and wonders, which haunts there

Blessings

 

[th1b.taylor]

i am not an inquisitor to force you to believe in the truth, and the biblical scriptures are not well/perfectly explained and arranged schoolbooks, but on the contrary, the believer has to seek the righteousness of That Who really is the true Lord God, because the truth may also be bitter, that's why it was said:

Hebrews 3:7-8 "the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:"

or as it was also evidenced:

Revelation 10:9-10 "I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter."

for the same reason the Lord, Jesus, said:

John 16:12 "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now."

that is why i also have not dared to tell/explain you more

i said i am not of the jehovah's witnesses, because so far there were people who asked me whether i am one of them when they heard/read i am a witness of God

Blessings

And again, I said nothing of the sort. On the other hand, the Holy Bible is the complete word of God, containing all of the truth exposed by God about God. The Hindus believe in reincarnation and I have had one mention to me his faith, false faith, in, I call them, alternate realities but God tells us in the scriptures that it is appointed once for a man to die. (Heb. 9:27) That completely destroys any possibility of having ever lived before in this or in any, fantasy, eternity.

Eternity +
noun
noun: eternity
infinite or unending time.
"their love was sealed for eternity"
synonyms: ever, all time, perpetuity
"the memory will remain for eternity"

• a state to which time has no application; timelessness.
• Theology
  endless life after death.
  "immortal souls destined for eternity"

To think otherwise is to discount the Flawless word of God and to go there is to, possibly, send oneself into Eternal Hell... I would never want to see you do that. My prayer is that you have, just, not read the Bible through, from cover to cover enough yet and that God is not finished working in you at this time.

And the best thing to do with that Jw junk is to discard such remarks because that will, most often, come from the unlearned and unstudied. What you published and I responded to has naught to do with the Witness' but as I have indicated is taught by Hollywood because they have tossed the Word of God into a trash can and play with the plastic idols of Buddha and the Milk Cows of the Hindu gods.

 

[JCitoL]

I have engaged him and generally found him with accurate sights, but, for some reason he thought I was against him. go figure.

i do not think such a thing, but i have (so to speak) a "habitation" in the true Lord God, it is something like being a soldier in foreign legion, and yes, there is something like a mistrust that is a part of the faithfulness to Him, i cannot afford to trust people just like that, it is one of my basic principles, considering that i did not fully trust even my dearest people, but i do not hate/contemn, nor disregard/neglect any

Blessings

 

[Corn Pop]

There seems to be many spirits of God. Rev also says the 7 spirits of God. Jesus was baptised in the spirit, once glorified comes the Holy Spirit. God is Spirit in one verse, others its the Spirit of God.

Its all quite complex. Who can understand it all. Lol.

Im all Sprited out. I got a headache.

 

[reba]

understanding uses our minds that one reason we worship the Lord in spirit and truth

Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

 

[JCitoL]

And again, I said nothing of the sort. On the other hand, the Holy Bible is the complete word of God, containing all of the truth exposed by God about God. The Hindus believe in reincarnation and I have had one mention to me his faith, false faith, in, I call them, alternate realities but God tells us in the scriptures that it is appointed once for a man to die. (Heb. 9:27) That completely destroys any possibility of having ever lived before in this or in any, fantasy, eternity.

Eternity +
noun
noun: eternity
infinite or unending time.
"their love was sealed for eternity"
synonyms: ever, all time, perpetuity
"the memory will remain for eternity"

• a state to which time has no application; timelessness.
• Theology
  endless life after death.
  "immortal souls destined for eternity"

To think otherwise is to discount the Flawless word of God and to go there is to, possibly, send oneself into Eternal Hell... I would never want to see you do that. My prayer is that you have, just, not read the Bible through, from cover to cover enough yet and that God is not finished working in you at this time.

And the best thing to do with that Jw junk is to discard such remarks because that will, most often, come from the unlearned and unstudied. What you published and I responded to has naught to do with the Witness' but as I have indicated is taught by Hollywood because they have tossed the Word of God into a trash can and play with the plastic idols of Buddha and the Milk Cows of the Hindu gods.

and you think the eternity has no beginning (n)or end, when it is written all the universal creation was created 5-6 millennia ago, moreover, in six days?!, it is even written that the beginning of this eternity was exactly then:

Genesis 1:1-2 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

and if there was a beginning before 5-6 millennia, then what had (there) been before that?!, is it possible that God had existed all time's infinity in void before starting to create the universal creation?!, or how is it possible that (the) eternity have existed since only 5-6 millennia ago if it has no beginning (n)or end?!, but it is even written that there is not only a beginning but even an end:

Revelation 21:6 "he said unto me, It is done(i.e. everything already happened before in the previous eternities). I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end."

Solomon:

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11 "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after."

and if the eternity has no beginning (n)or end, then why have so many people turned out to be born in this world under sin, why haven't they been in the heavenly paradise if there is no end of the eternity?!

Blessings

 

[th1b.taylor]

and you think the eternity has no beginning (n)or end, when it is written all the universal creation was created 5-6 millennia ago, moreover, in six days?!, it is even written that the beginning of this eternity was exactly then:

Genesis 1:1-2 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

and if there was a beginning before 5-6 millennia, then what had (there) been before that?!, is it possible that God had existed all time's infinity in void before starting to create the universal creation?!, or how is it possible that (the) eternity have existed since only 5-6 millennia ago if it has no beginning (n)or end?!, but it is even written that there is not only a beginning but even an end:

Revelation 21:6 "he said unto me, It is done(i.e. everything already happened before in the previous eternities). I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end."

Solomon:

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11 "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after."

and if the eternity has no beginning (n)or end, then why have so many people turned out to be born in this world under sin, why haven't they been in the heavenly paradise if there is no end of the eternity?!

Blessings

You are trying to fathom the unfathomable or to understand the un-understandable. This is such as a man will do, not as the only God would do nor have us do

Have you ever sat down, say for fifteen minutes a day and read the Bible through in one year?

 

[JCitoL]

You are trying to fathom the unfathomable or to understand the un-understandable. This is such as a man will do, not as the only God would do nor have us do

Have you ever sat down, say for fifteen minutes a day and read the Bible through in one year?

when i speak a word of God, i speak only what the true Lord God gives me to speak, and do not read the Bible systematically and daily/constantly, (without praising myself) i even did never read the whole Bible, there are still many biblical passages that i did not yet read even once, but at the same time i am aware of what is written/there in the biblical scriptures, because my gift to be a witness of God is of Him, and i even do not dare wanting to know anything that He does not want me to know, this is a part of my basic principles as His follower and witness, and there are also human beings that are very aware of His truth without being led by the sight of their eyes nor by the hearing of their ears, nor by the cogitation of their minds - from this viewpoint there are especially no things such as third eye and intuition(sixth sense) in them, there were so many true prophets of God shown in the Bible who even did not own a Holy Scripture and never read such, but had a gift of God to prophesy/preach His truth/message, and the biblical scriptures were written exactly by such prophets

Isaiah 11:1-3 "there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:",

Romans 2:28-29 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.",

2 Corinthians 3:1-6 "Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you? Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

if the Bible is read once, twice or thrice, then why to read it again and over and over again as if we are parrots, not men created after the image/likeness of the true Lord God?!, bear in mind that i read only the whole New Testament twice, moreover, that was many years ago, but here is how this doesn't/can't stop me from receiving a revelation from God and Jesus Who in due time remember me all biblical things that i read so many years ago, as well as now, and even direct me to biblical passages that i never read (that are kind of new for me), but with or without the Bible They have given me to understand Their truth, and this is possible by right exercise/practice of faith in Them, Those, Who really are the only true Heavenly God and the only true Lord Jesus Christ

Romans 1:16-17 "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.",

Romans 3:28 "we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

so, i also did/do not know exactly where (every) Their (single) truth is (shown/presented) in the Bible, but They direct me and show me in due time, when i have to witness it after Their Will, to such an extent that it repeatedly turned out and still turns out that even i had/have to hear all those Their secrets from my mouth, when They make me speak Their Word, in order to understand/know them, so, honestly, in principle i do not need to read the Bible, (and) then there is no commandment "read the scripture systematically/daily" in the Bible

Blessings

 

[reba]

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

[th1b.taylor]

when i speak a word of God, i speak only what the true Lord God gives me to speak, and do not read the Bible systematically and daily/constantly, (without praising myself) i even did never read the whole Bible, there are still many biblical passages that i did not yet read even once, but at the same time i am aware of what is written/there in the biblical scriptures, because my gift to be a witness of God is of Him, and i even do not dare wanting to know anything that He does not want me to know, this is a part of my basic principles as His follower and witness, and there are also human beings that are very aware of His truth without being led by the sight of their eyes nor by the hearing of their ears, nor by the cogitation of their minds - from this viewpoint there are especially no things such as third eye and intuition(sixth sense) in them, there were so many true prophets of God shown in the Bible who even did not own a Holy Scripture and never read such, but had a gift of God to prophesy/preach His truth/message, and the biblical scriptures were written exactly by such prophets

Isaiah 11:1-3 "there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:",

Romans 2:28-29 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.",

2 Corinthians 3:1-6 "Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you? Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

if the Bible is read once, twice or thrice, then why to read it again and over and over again as if we are parrots, not men created after the image/likeness of the true Lord God?!, bear in mind that i read only the whole New Testament twice, moreover, that was many years ago, but here is how this doesn't/can't stop me from receiving a revelation from God and Jesus Who in due time remember me all biblical things that i read so many years ago, as well as now, and even direct me to biblical passages that i never read (that are kind of new for me), but with or without the Bible They have given me to understand Their truth, and this is possible by right exercise/practice of faith in Them, Those, Who really are the only true Heavenly God and the only true Lord Jesus Christ

Romans 1:16-17 "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.",

Romans 3:28 "we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

so, i also did/do not know exactly where (every) Their (single) truth is (shown/presented) in the Bible, but They direct me and show me in due time, when i have to witness it after Their Will, to such an extent that it repeatedly turned out and still turns out that even i had/have to hear all those Their secrets from my mouth, when They make me speak Their Word, in order to understand/know them, so, honestly, in principle i do not need to read the Bible, (and) then there is no commandment "read the scripture systematically/daily" in the Bible

Blessings

I am sorry to see you go so far astray and doing so because the spirit leading you is not the Holy Spirit of God, but, of course, how would you ever know that? You have never read the Word of God, as God intended you to do. When a man or a woman reads the Word of God they have,l among other things, a measure that as 2Tim 3:16 states, to measure everything.

It is not good that a man should close his eyes and run through the forest. And yet, there you go with out looking to observe.

 

[JCitoL]

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

"is profitable for" can also mean "is profitable as a reference for", but it is not written "by reading (it) (systematically/constantly)", because one thing is to read, another is to understand correctly the things that are written

2 Peter 3:13-16 "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.",

1 Thessalonians 5:27 "I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren."

the rest would not be able to understand it rightly

Blessings

 

[JCitoL]

I am sorry to see you go so far astray and doing so because the spirit leading you is not the Holy Spirit of God, but, of course, how would you ever know that? You have never read the Word of God, as God intended you to do. When a man or a woman reads the Word of God they have,l among other things, a measure that as 2Tim 3:16 states, to measure everything.

It is not good that a man should close his eyes and run through the forest. And yet, there you go with out looking to observe.

the disciples of the Lord, Jesus, were also scripturally illiterate:

Acts 4:8-13 "Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus."

if you (have) read the Bible several times or more than several times and have not yet begun to right(ly) exercise the faith in Him so that you can now (be able to) witness/preach His word as it comes directly out of His mouth, or cast the devilish spirits out of possessed, or heal sick, or restore the health of lame/invalid, or resurrect dead - as well as Jesus and His true disciples shown in the Bible did 2 millennia ago, then why must you continue to (re-)read the Bible over and over again up to thousands of times if you have not yet (begun/been able to) bring forth any of those(the aforementioned) fruits in that way?!, what's the point to be parrots instead of exercising the faith rightly perfecting (ourselves in) it?!

even i so far met a lot of believers that read the Bible and understand a large part of it wrong, though they read it daily/constantly, and (i'm sorry to say it but) this unfortunately is a heresy (even pernicious)

Blessings

 

[th1b.taylor]

the disciples of the Lord, Jesus, were also scripturally illiterate:

Acts 4:8-13 "Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus."

if you (have) read the Bible several times or more than several times and have not yet begun to right(ly) exercise the faith in Him so that you can now (be able to) witness/preach His word as it comes directly out of His mouth, or cast the devilish spirits out of possessed, or heal sick, or restore the health of lame/invalid, or resurrect dead - as well as Jesus and His true disciples shown in the Bible did 2 millennia ago, then why must you continue to (re-)read the Bible over and over again up to thousands of times if you have not yet (begun/been able to) bring forth any of those(the aforementioned) fruits in that way?!, what's the point to be parrots instead of exercising the faith rightly perfecting (ourselves in) it?!

even i so far met a lot of believers that read the Bible and understand a large part of it wrong, though they read it daily/constantly, and (i'm sorry to say it but) this unfortunately is a heresy (even pernicious)

Blessings

Interesting charge but I will only say that one of us is likely to hear, on the second Resurrection's first, "Be gone, I never knew you." And since the Spirit has and does speak to me and since, when I look at the Word of God, the message from the Spirit talking to me aligns with the Word, I feel that I have not much to worry about. I always remember that in Malachi 3:6, God promised never to change.

 

[JCitoL]

Interesting charge but I will only say that one of us is likely to hear, on the second Resurrection's first, "Be gone, I never knew you." And since the Spirit has and does speak to me and since, when I look at the Word of God, the message from the Spirit talking to me aligns with the Word, I feel that I have not much to worry about. I always remember that in Malachi 3:6, God promised never to change.

yes, God never changes, He is always the same, as the strength of a body-builder can always be the same "tractor", though he is not able to help anyone while sleeping, but while being awake his strength is same as before and can again be applied not less (successfully) than before, and, also, as the result of seeding one dna is always the same plant as before, no matter how many times it will be seeded, similarly it is also with God, His seed never stops existing and living, and He always grows in exactly the same way (at the beginning) as the geometric progression/sequence 1x2=2, 2x2=4, 4x2=8, 8x2=16, 16x2=32... always occurs in the same way, regardless of how many times it will (again) be calculated, that is why everything is always the same/always happens in exactly the same way - all (the) events of the eternity always repeat in exactly the same way and order through each subsequent eternity, only the personalities/roles of the souls are interchanged (by) one step ahead for each consecutive eternity, but we can choose a better destiny for everyone (by good prayer and fasting)...

Blessings

 

[th1b.taylor]

yes, God never changes, He is always the same, as the strength of a body-builder can always be the same "tractor", though he is not able to help anyone while sleeping, but while being awake his strength is same as before and can again be applied not less (successfully) than before, and, also, as the result of seeding one dna is always the same plant as before, no matter how many times it will be seeded, similarly it is also with God, His seed never stops existing and living, and He always grows in exactly the same way (at the beginning) as the geometric progression/sequence 1x2=2, 2x2=4, 4x2=8, 8x2=16, 16x2=32... always occurs in the same way, regardless of how many times it will (again) be calculated, that is why everything is always the same/always happens in exactly the same way - all (the) events of the eternity always repeat in exactly the same way and order through each subsequent eternity, only the personalities/roles of the souls are interchanged (by) one step ahead for each consecutive eternity, but we can choose a better destiny for everyone (by good prayer and fasting)...

Blessings

That is not only a poor metaphor, it is an illustration of the truth that you are either an infant in Christ or not at all. And if not at all you are terribly confused. You have already been given the Timothy passage that illustrates the truth of your need for study. And sir, if you will bend your will to submit to the will of God and if you, then, read the entire book through with prayer and meditate on what you have read, you will hunger for the Living Word and every time you read it again, God will show you new truths from the very same passages.

The "idea" that God, the Creator is less than complete or less than perfect or the idea God ever was less is man made foolishness and is a case of making God into the Image of Mortal and Fallible Mankind.

All of these things you are speaking to me scream Caution! The only good in all of this is the truth that if God, not one of the gods of the world, but if God has begun a good work in you, it is very, very, possible He is using Bill Taylor as one of the tools He will use to complete His work in you.

The truth, the absolute truth is that, with God there is no beginning and there is no end. Neither has God ever been anything other than Perfect. You have tried to give me a lesson in Mathematical Folding but the truth, found only in the Holy Bible, is nothing on nor in this Earth, Solar System nor in any of the Universes can be used to explain God. God created all of this for the benefit and use of Man. None of this is anything more and while God is here, with us, God is not bound to this Time/Space Continuum the way the Hindu, Buddhist and the other gods, again with the lessor g, but He is not bound by anything and the words you publish here are not the words of a Wise Man.

Praying God will bless you.

 

[Ph8th]

Let me tell you about my GOD!
He is an infinite God
No beginning nor end
He is never less
He is never more
He is an endless ocean
A sea with out a shore​

peter