How far would you go?

[Douglas Summers]

I would like to ask a question of those who have children. With all of the corruption and it's increase in this world (drugs,sex, abortion, prostitution, murder in our schools, gay education as a norm, etc.) How far would you go to protect and even recover them if they have fallen prey to these evils? I would like to know what you would give up or not give up for your children?

 

[Kidron]

Dr. Billy Graham was asked....."Dr Graham, if you discovered that one of your children was gay, how would you handle it"....
He replied...."Id love that one most of all"...

So, you can never give up on your children, but you cant always condone what they do, and shouldn't, especially if what they are doing is ungodly as a lifestyle.
In the end, you just have to be available, always, and give them love unconditionally.
It is possible to love the person but not accept their lifestyle, and that is what you have to do, if that is how it has to be.
Sometimes that is how it has to be, until they change, or they die.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Dr. Billy Graham was asked....."Dr Graham, if you discovered that one of your children was gay, how would you handle it"....
He replied...."Id love that one most of all"...

So, you can never give up on your children, but you cant always condone what they do, and shouldn't, especially if what they are doing is ungodly as a lifestyle.
In the end, you just have to be available, always, and give them love unconditionally.
It is possible to love the person but not accept their lifestyle, and that is what you have to do, if that is how it has to be.
Sometimes that is how it has to be, until they change, or they die.

So you would always love your child unconditionally, praying for their deliverance. I would that all parents were that committed. Sadly many children live miserable lives. It makes one weep how some children are so innocent and come into this world being abused.

 

[Eugene]

So you would always love your child unconditionally, praying for their deliverance. I would that all parents were that committed. Sadly many children live miserable lives. It makes one weep how some children are so innocent and come into this world being abused.

Dear Brother Douglas, we read in Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it. I cannot believe the children given us by God should be loved less. I think how the father of the prodigal son remained alert for his son to return, and met him with a robe, a ring, shoes, and a kiss. Lk 15:22.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Dear Brother Douglas, we read in Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it. I cannot believe the children given us by God should be loved less. I think how the father of the prodigal son remained alert for his son to return, and met him with a robe, a ring, shoes, and a kiss. Lk 15:22.

I agree. The story of The Prodigal Son is actually a portrait of God Himself.

 

[Mike]

How far would you go to protect and even recover them if they have fallen prey to these evils?

There seems to be two different questions here, and I have two different answers. Protect? We have 3 children, and I've had to learn the art of allowing them to learn from experience. Too much protection can result in them being poorly equipped in the future. I've always fought against my instinct to protect them from everything. Our oldest son will be 20 at the end of October, and I can see more than ever the wisdom in letting them learn through dealing with the results of poor decisions. Drugs may be an exception, because one bad decision could mean a life of struggle and pain.

Recover? To the ends of the earth. I'd like to think there is nothing I wouldn't give.

 

[Douglas Summers]

There seems to be two different questions here, and I have two different answers. Protect? We have 3 children, and I've had to learn the art of allowing them to learn from experience. Too much protection can result in them being poorly equipped in the future. I've always fought against my instinct to protect them from everything. Our oldest son will be 20 at the end of October, and I can see more than ever the wisdom in letting them learn through dealing with the results of poor decisions. Drugs may be an exception, because one bad decision could mean a life of struggle and pain.

Recover? To the ends of the earth. I'd like to think there is nothing I wouldn't give.

Amen Mike.

 

[SurvivalStudent87]

There seems to be two different questions here, and I have two different answers. Protect? We have 3 children, and I've had to learn the art of allowing them to learn from experience. Too much protection can result in them being poorly equipped in the future. I've always fought against my instinct to protect them from everything. Our oldest son will be 20 at the end of October, and I can see more than ever the wisdom in letting them learn through dealing with the results of poor decisions. Drugs may be an exception, because one bad decision could mean a life of struggle and pain.

Recover? To the ends of the earth. I'd like to think there is nothing I wouldn't give.

Excellent response Mike. I agree 100%.

 

[Abigail123]

I would like to ask a question of those who have children. With all of the corruption and it's increase in this world (drugs,sex, abortion, prostitution, murder in our schools, gay education as a norm, etc.) How far would you go to protect and even recover them if they have fallen prey to these evils? I would like to know what you would give up or not give up for your children?

The first time I prayed for one of my children for hanging out with a questionable crowd and I was really stressed out about it, I feel like the Lord kept telling me to "love my child through it", so this has been a constant reminder and a call to action on my part, no matter what love them through it. Of course, a whole lot of talking, teaching and redirection was involved to.

How far would I go to recover them? I would go as far as it would take.

 

[Douglas Summers]

The first time I prayed for one of my children for hanging out with a questionable crowd and I was really stressed out about it, I feel like the Lord kept telling me to "love my child through it", so this has been a constant reminder and a call to action on my part, no matter what love them through it. Of course, a whole lot of talking, teaching and redirection was involved to.

How far would I go to recover them? I would go as far as it would take.

Amen Abigail, and so would Christ for us.

 

[grams]

Find a Church that has a good minister ! Have the minister explain things to them....

I hope the child had been going to church at least a little ?

I know our pastor is great on helping and all should be this way , but I seen not all are .............

 

[Douglas Summers]

Find a Church that has a good minister ! Have the minister explain things to them....

I hope the child had been going to church at least a little ?

I know our pastor is great on helping and all should be this way , but I seen not all are .............

Hi grams, Do you have Children?

 

[grams]

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Hi grams, Do you have Children?

Douglas Summers, Today at 10:44 AM Report

I am 80 years.......... was married for 57 years......... My husband just passed away this June..........
We have 3 married children......... The younger one we moved in with last Dec.
And my son and his wonderful wife have 8 children !

 

[Douglas Summers]

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Hi grams, Do you have Children?

Douglas Summers, Today at 10:44 AM Report

I am 80 years.......... was married for 57 years......... My husband just passed away this June..........
We have 3 married children......... The younger one we moved in with last Dec.
And my son and his wonderful wife have 8 children !

Hi grams, I will be 70 in November, have two children (daughter and son) They are both married, but no grandchildren? I was trying to show how much we would give up to save our children. Those that replied would never give up on the love of their children, even to death. And as much as we love our children and would give our life to save them, Christ love for His own is even greater.
The point was to those who believe that God would cast them away if they sinned after being saved. And if we would give our life to save our children, How much more God's love for us will keep the born again believers safe and secure. That's not to say He will not chastise us, but never abandon us. You can not out love God. Amen

In Christ
Douglas Summers

 

[grams]

Douglas,
Things , have surely changed since I was a teen...........
It is hard to believe ! But these day's I would feel like I would have to follow my children around all day.
The bible tells us things are going to be worse. And they sure have started..
I feel in my head at times I wish I did not have to bring them up in all of this.
For the grand children they will have to see go into all of the sin full world this is coming more then now !
If we bring them up as children the right way, that have a excellent chance of staying that way !
So fare for all of us , it is good !
Knowing , believing, understanding ........what GOD is telling us .........sure does help !,

 

[Douglas Summers]

Douglas,
Things , have surely changed since I was a teen...........
It is hard to believe ! But these day's I would feel like I would have to follow my children around all day.
The bible tells us things are going to be worse. And they sure have started..
I feel in my head at times I wish I did not have to bring them up in all of this.
For the grand children they will have to see go into all of the sin full world this is coming more then now !
If we bring them up as children the right way, that have a excellent chance of staying that way !
So fare for all of us , it is good !
Knowing , believing, understanding ........what GOD is telling us .........sure does help !,

Amen!

 

[Mike S]

I would do everything in my power to save a child, give my own life if it would help. Sometimes, regardless of will and resources, nothing can change the negative dynamic playing itself out in a child's life, and oh, what an agony that is for the parents.

I think of the tragic outcome for George McGovern and his wife. Despite their religious faith, political connections, wealth, and will to succeed, their daughter could not be saved. Teresa McGovern, possessed by an addiction she could not control, died intoxicated, in cold dark alley in Madison Wisconsin. Is there anything more painful for a parent than the death of a child?


Teresa McGovern: A death in the cold -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...ad26ca-1bde-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_story.html

 

[Christ_empowered]

Speaking as the former Prodigal Son, I'm glad to read these responses. My parents went above and beyond to get me healthy and keep me safe...they even paid for me to go to Teen challenge after I'd messed up royally.

These days, it seems...maybe its more in the US than elsewhere, I dunno...but there's more of a limit to how far family members will go for each other. Parents disown children, children avoid parents, parents divorce, remarry, no big thing.

 

[Douglas Summers]

I would do everything in my power to save a child, give my own life if it would help. Sometimes, regardless of will and resources, nothing can change the negative dynamic playing itself out in a child's life, and oh, what an agony that is for the parents.

I think of the tragic outcome for George McGovern and his wife. Despite their religious faith, political connections, wealth, and will to succeed, their daughter could not be saved. Teresa McGovern, possessed by an addiction she could not control, died intoxicated, in cold dark alley in Madison Wisconsin. Is there anything more painful for a parent than the death of a child?


Teresa McGovern: A death in the cold -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...ad26ca-1bde-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_story.html

Hi Mike, It is hard to understand of those who fall prey to the dark side (drugs) that some will not except help, but want to stay where they are. Drugs are powerful. They give the feeling of euphoria, and once hooked, they become addictive. I know a little about addiction, for I almost became addicted to Hydrocodone for pain after surgery. You at first don't think you are addicted,, but when I was willing to lie to the Doctor to get them , I came to terms,and stopped. But as much as we love our children, and would do everything in our power to save them, God's love for us who backslide or have sinned is even greater, He will not cast us aside, He will chastise us as son's, but not abandoned us.

In Christ
Douglas Summers

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

I can't say yet, because I'm not a parent yet. (Hopefully someday, hopefully soon.). But I think it really depends on the sitution. Like Mike said regarding drugs, there are some things that are really dangerous to a person, and letting them figure it out on their own, might not be right. But for so many other things, I hope I don't become too over protective.