We know that!Christ and his church are one!
What we resist is the Catholic church's assertion that it is Christ, the one true church.
If their assertion is true, this is what 'Christ' is telling us these days:
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We know that!Christ and his church are one!
We can go into the Vatican 2 errors another timeWe know that!
What we resist is the Catholic church's assertion that it is Christ, the one true church.
If their assertion is true, this is what 'Christ' is telling us these days:
We have a part to play and must conform to Christ and can only have grace by the sacraments of Hos church never faith alone see belowAre you trying to show that the Catholic belief that the grace of God is earned by works, not given as a free gift when you believe and are justified (as was Abraham)?
What sacrament did Abraham, our example of "righteousness apart from works", perform to receive God's grace in justification?We have a part to play and must conform to Christ and can only have grace by the sacraments of Hos church never faith alone see below
Please explain:What sacrament did Abraham, our example of "righteousness apart from works", perform to receive God's grace in justification?
The traits of the Spirit Peter lists confirm your calling and election. They do not secure it like Catholics believe they do.Please explain:
2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
The Bible tells us that there is only ONE body. Eph 4. And that the body is the church so the Bible tells us that there is only ONE church. So why do I see a different “church” on about every corner in America? Did God start all of these “churches”? He said there was one!
The key is....how can a person identify the one true church of God. The one he built. The one he purchased with his own blood. Ac 20:28. You can identify the church the same way you can identify anything else. By its description. If someone stole your car and you wanted the police to find it they would ask you to describe it. You would then give them the make, model, color, license plate, any stickers or other dents or identifying marks. They then can know EXACTLY what to look for. Why can’t we do the same thing with the church?
Let’s try and start with Origin. Jesus said he would build his church. Mt 16:19.
1. When did Jesus build HIS church? It belongs to him and no one else.
We will look this up in the next post.
You’re church has no priest?
JLB ... you confuse me.
When asked how many churches there are you respond with "one".
Then in your next post you quote "John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:"
Please stop contradicting yourself as it gets confusing.
I agree that there are 7 churches as John(a disciple carries more weight that a CF post) says.
In the end there will be 7 main churches that matter.
But I am sure that I hold an unpopular position on this.
DTTAFSA... I have yet to be swayed by any argument to the contrary.
Yeah... your explanations don't really help.There is one church; the church that Jesus is building.
I could say it this way; there is one family He is building.
The church He is building is understood in 3 dimensions;
In a fullness; a threefold fullness
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. Matthew 12:25
Individual: House
Corporate: City
Universal: Kingdom
You are the Church, as an individual.
A Church that gathers in a city, such as the Church at “Philadelphia”.
Then there is the universal Church that is comprised of all His kingdom both in Heaven and Earth.
Question:
Is there one God or three God’s?
It is good that you grasp one thing and also not let go of the other; for the one who fears God comes forth with both of them.
Ecclesiastes 7:18
JLB
Still you say one and seven.
Yeah... your explanations don't really help.
Still you say one and seven.
I don't disagree... but your style of explanation could use some work. Just a constructive critique.
Post #69 you said "one"Can you refer me to the post number where I said there are seven churches?
JLB
If you are in Christ, you are a priest.
John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.
To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. Revelation 1:4-6
Right and it also includes the number of Churches (7).I quoted scripture, which includes us being priests.
Yes... 7.John wrote to the church in each city as I explained in my post.
And this is where you get confused... or is it confusing?There one church, that is understood in three dimensions;
This would not match the definition of a Church.House: Individual
Correct use of the definition of a church.City: Corporate
Sloppy but serviceable use of the definition of church.Kingdom: Universal
You are confusing church with body.Just as there is one God, but three divine persons that are involved in the one God; one Godhead.
Are you a member of the church?
There are many members but one body.