How moral are swear words?

[farouk]

Cussing is a sign of a weak mind an an inadequate vocabulary.

It is not what goes into the mouth of man, that defiles him, it what comes out of the mouth of man that defiles him.

Yes, this is what the Lord Jesus said.

 

[Classik]

When did this happen, and in what culture? No one I associate with (Christian or not, but especially Christians) consider some words to mean anything other then what it always meant, it's still just as vulgar as it always has been, and it's certainly no where near as popular or polite as saying "Hi". I can just picture the reaction I'll get if I walk into church next Sunday and instead of greeting the pastor with "Hi" or "Good morning",
And that picture isn't very pretty.

Emphasis.

 

[farouk]

Emphasis.

C: There is being emphatic; then there is being crudely emphatic. These are different.

 

[Classik]

C: There is being emphatic; then there is being crudely emphatic. These are different.

so which?

 

[Destructus86]

But being angry isn't a sin either. It is how you are being angry that establishes whether or not it is sin. Anger, nor any other emotion for that matter, is neither good nor bad. Emotions just "are." What we do with them, that's where the judgment of goodness or sin is applied.

No, not necessarily. Again, it is how we use it, what we do with it, rather than what we are saying. If there is no real emotion behind it, it is inconsequential. Like "Dang! Where'd I put my phone?" vs. a more strenuous use of the word when you are mad but are conscious that you don't want to cuss, so you think you aren't sinning by using the less offensive word.

Then again, if you went to the movie with the intent of being worldly entertained, there's a likelihood that is sin, hearing the word as part of entertainment that isn't fit to be watched.

Dang and damn are the same meaning. "Dang, I lost my phone." "damn, I lost my phone."

Also, being "worldly" entertained is not a sin. There isn't a single bible verse to support that belief. There are plenty of verses which explain why it isn't. As for "fit to be watched" that's really up to the persons conscience as not everyone responds to things the same.

 

[Claudya]

There is something very honest about swearing. I'd rather trust someone that swears like an old sailor than someone that is using the sweetest and most holy language. People that never swear are suspicious.

 

[RachelKeeth]

There is something very honest about swearing. I'd rather trust someone that swears like an old sailor than someone that is using the sweetest and most holy language. People that never swear are suspicious.

How are they suspicious? Maybe they just don't see a reason to swear. All you would hear my family saying if they are hurt/surprised/happy is "oh my goodness" and I don't even say that. I don't avoid swearing because I think I look more "holy" but because I believe it to be wrong.

 

[reba]

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Discussing this topic has merit lets remember where we are, and use appropriate language.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

There is something very honest about swearing. I'd rather trust someone that swears like an old sailor than someone that is using the sweetest and most holy language. People that never swear are suspicious.

Not if they're Christians.

 

[Knotical]

The use of swear/curse words really has to do with the person's background and subsequent vocabulary. I have known people who use these words as their normal vocabulary only because they were not taught anything different. Then there are those who don't use them as they have never entered into their vocabulary for whatever reason.

"Suspicious" people come from both areas and use their vocabulary to be honest or deceitful just as easily.

 

[evenifigoalone]

One thing that makes swear words so popular is that it's considered taboo, I think.

Personally swear words don't offend me in and of themselves, nor will they in and of themselves deter me from watching or reading something I like. Unless my little brother is watching it, too, or something.

 

[farouk]

One thing that makes swear words so popular is that it's considered taboo, I think.

Personally swear words don't offend me in and of themselves, nor will they in and of themselves deter me from watching or reading something I like. Unless my little brother is watching it, too, or something.

questdriven: I think too, over the years and from one English-speaking country to another, the distinction between moderate exclamations and actual words considered swear words, will have differed a little, in some cases.

Blessings.

 

[Classik]

There is something very honest about swearing. I'd rather trust someone that swears like an old sailor than someone that is using the sweetest and most holy language. People that never swear are suspicious.

Fascinating but...

 

[Classik]

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Discussing this topic has merit lets remember where we are, and use appropriate language.

Thank you for not writting in red

 

[Classik]

The use of swear/curse words really has to do with the person's background and subsequent vocabulary. I have known people who use these words as their normal vocabulary only because they were not taught anything different. Then there are those who don't use them as they have never entered into their vocabulary for whatever reason.

I totally agree with you.
:nod

 

[Destructus86]

I've met people who are extremely intelligent (like genius level) and cuss.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

You guys ever been cussed out by someone not using swear words. I was one time. Some guy, he was very educated and well spoken but didn't use any foul language or cuss words at all. It was very humiliating. The best way to describe it was being cussed out but he didn't use one cuss word.

Then he berated you, he didn't "cuss you out."

 

[Destructus86]

When you get right down to it...the bible says that we are not to let any unwholesome words come from our lips. It you study the original translation it's not talking about specific words. It's talking about the meaning and heart of what is spoken. It means we shouldn't slander, talk down to people, be rude, lie, etc... (which is covered later in various verses)

This is the problem with only looking at the english translation. Sometimes it doesn't match the original scripture and it's why here in America we get our doctrine all screwed up.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

When you get right down to it...the bible says that we are not to let any unwholesome words come from our lips. It you study the original translation it's not talking about specific words. It's talking about the meaning and heart of what is spoken. It means we shouldn't slander, talk down to people, be rude, lie, etc... (which is covered later in various verses)

I suppose that could be extrapolated as the meaning, but the word translated "unwholesome" is the Greek sapros, which is defined thusly: rotten, putrefied; corrupted by one and no longer fit for use, worn out; of poor quality, bad, unfit for use, worthless.

That definition would more appropriately define course, crude, disgusting language. The world has long had curse words and that is specifically what Ephesians 4:29 -- the only verse in which sapros is translated "unwholesome" -- is speaking about. A confirmation of the meaning behind the word is found in the good doctor's writings:

Luke 6 NASB
43 "For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit.
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[Destructus86]

I suppose that could be extrapolated as the meaning, but the word translated "unwholesome" is the Greek sapros, which is defined thusly: rotten, putrefied; corrupted by one and no longer fit for use, worn out; of poor quality, bad, unfit for use, worthless.

That definition would more appropriately define course, crude, disgusting language. The world has long had curse words and that is specifically what Ephesians 4:29 -- the only verse in which sapros is translated "unwholesome" -- is speaking about. A confirmation of the meaning behind the word is found in the good doctor's writings:

Luke 6 NASB
43 "For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit.
​

By that definition then...the F word could be used in a postive way. IE "I f**king love that person!"
The word might be considered crude to some, but not others. So, who is right? Is it up to each person individually to decide then?