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Husbands who fear their wives

wondering said:
...Do you think women just stay home and watch TV all day long?
They maintain a household
Keep documents
Pay bills
Raise Children
Shop
Cook
Clean
Keep laundry going
Speak to doctors
Teachers
Get jobs done, like with plumbers, contractors, etc.
Wondering
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And when the man comes home from work, when his day is done, is her day done also?

No. Her day then gets harder because then she's picking up his boots and dirty socks that he dropped on the floor, gettin him a beer or otherwise serving him, cooking dinner and it's clean up, and a myriad of other tasks..

I think women work harder than men. I tip my hat to all you wives out there, for that. Thank you.
 
Free said:
Unfortunately, this isn't the case. I haven't looked through this thread, so I don't know if it's been mentioned, but it needs to be stated that there are women who beat men, wives who beat and abuse their husbands, even though the husband does absolutely nothing deserving of it and treats her as the Scriptures say.
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hello Free, dirtfarmer here

While I understand that there are women that physically abuse their husbands that don't deserve it, I have to question their manhood. Man being the stronger could stop the physical abuse just as there are women, who are weaker than men, that stop the physical abuse of their husbands.
Romans 12:18 " If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men". Doesn't mean to withstand physical abuse from any one.
 
Edward said:
And when the man comes home from work, when his day is done, is her day done also?

No. Her day then gets harder because then she's picking up his boots and dirty socks that he dropped on the floor, gettin him a beer or otherwise serving him, cooking dinner and it's clean up, and a myriad of other tasks..

I think women work harder than men. I tip my hat to all you wives out there, for that. Thank you.
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hello Edward, dirtfarmer here

What you have described is abuse. The woman is an helpmeet, not a slave. My wife and I share task. I cook and she cleans. I put my shoes where they belong, next to the bed so I can find them the next morning. If I want a glass of tea or even a beer, I get it for myself. Any man that does what you have described is not loving his wife as Christ loved the Church, and is an abusive husband without love for his wife.
 
dirtfarmer said:
hello Edward, dirtfarmer here

What you have described is abuse. The woman is an helpmeet, not a slave. My wife and I share task. I cook and she cleans. I put my shoes where they belong, next to the bed so I can find them the next morning. If I want a glass of tea or even a beer, I get it for myself. Any man that does what you have described is not loving his wife as Christ loved the Church, and is an abusive husband without love for his wife.
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You're right but I believe that I described the typical marriage and behaviors of same. To make the point that women work harder than men.
 
Edward said:
You're right but I believe that I described the typical marriage and behaviors of same. To make the point that women work harder than men.
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hello Edward, dirtfarmer here

I agree with this post. I don't know if I would say harder, but assuredly they have longer hours.
 
dirtfarmer said:
hello Free, dirtfarmer here

While I understand that there are women that physically abuse their husbands that don't deserve it, I have to question their manhood. Man being the stronger could stop the physical abuse just as there are women, who are weaker than men, that stop the physical abuse of their husbands.
Romans 12:18 " If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men". Doesn't mean to withstand physical abuse from any one.
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Don't you dare question their manhood. You want a man to treat his wife biblically, yet you question the reason why a man doesn't treat his abusive wife unbiblically? Do you think that men who beat their wives are being real men? It has absolutely nothing to do with men being stronger. Do some research on people who are abused and how they are to deal with those situations before posting such things. It is precisely your attitude that keeps abused men from getting the help they need to get out of those situations.
 
Free said:
Don't you dare question their manhood. You want a man to treat his wife biblically, yet you question the reason why a man doesn't treat his abusive wife unbiblically? Do you think that men who beat their wives are being real men? It has absolutely nothing to do with men being stronger. Do some research on people who are abused and how they are to deal with those situations before posting such things. It is precisely your attitude that keeps abused men from getting the help they need to get out of those situations.
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hello Free, dirtfarmer here

You are reading into the post your own thoughts, I said nothing about being abusive or wife beating. There are other options.
 
Edward said:
Everybody's always on their best behavior in the beginning. After they're married they get comfortable.
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I never liked this idea.
A person should not be "on their best behavior".
We should always act like ourselves. This way there will never
be any surprise. Also, getting comfortable to me means - taking for granted.
Married couples should never take each other for granted. They should live as if one is
going to die and the other will be left with a conscience to live with.
Also, Ephesians 4.26
Do not be angry for long.

Wondering
 
dirtfarmer said:
hello Edward, dirtfarmer here

What you have described is abuse. The woman is an helpmeet, not a slave. My wife and I share task. I cook and she cleans. I put my shoes where they belong, next to the bed so I can find them the next morning. If I want a glass of tea or even a beer, I get it for myself. Any man that does what you have described is not loving his wife as Christ loved the Church, and is an abusive husband without love for his wife.
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I'd have to agree with Edward, Dirtfarmer - and I haven't been a slave although many times I've felt like one.

It doesn't matter if a husband helps a wife. What matters is who's RESPONSIBLE for the job.
A woman is always responsible for the home. A man may help with the dishes, but if that's all that's done
the kitchen will be a mess withing two days. I'm sure women out there know what I'm speaking about.

BTW, How come more women don't join in this conversation??

When kdis are sick, they want their mother.
When a cake needs to be baked, it'll be the mother who does it.
This is complicated to get into, but just like a man is RESPONSIBLE for changing the
tire on a car, the woman is responsible for the entire running of the home.

Of course, this is a generalization - this must always be said.

What's that saying:
A man might work from dusk till dawn
But a woman's work is never done.

I believe you did say this, and this is the "weight" a woman feels.
Just like a man feels the weight of being the bread-winner.

Wondering
 
Free said:
Don't you dare question their manhood. You want a man to treat his wife biblically, yet you question the reason why a man doesn't treat his abusive wife unbiblically? Do you think that men who beat their wives are being real men? It has absolutely nothing to do with men being stronger. Do some research on people who are abused and how they are to deal with those situations before posting such things. It is precisely your attitude that keeps abused men from getting the help they need to get out of those situations.
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Hi Free,
Manhood and Womanhood MUST be questioned in the cases you bring up. Which is not what Dirtfarmer was addressing, BTW.

A MAN does not let his wife beat him.
a WOMAN does not let her husband beat her.

They both have problems of self-esteem if they allow themselves to be mistreated. You spoke of studies. Studies show that women and men who remain in this type of situation believe they are responsible for the mistreatement, are deserving of it, and fear leaving the situation. IOW, people in these situations are WEAK people.

I'm not castigating them for it. It is how they are for whatever reason. However, if we do not face this truth, how will they ever be helped??

Again, I am speaking generally - not all cases are the same.

Wondering
 
wondering said:
I'd have to agree with Edward, Dirtfarmer - and I haven't been a slave although many times I've felt like one.

It doesn't matter if a husband helps a wife. What matters is who's RESPONSIBLE for the job.
A woman is always responsible for the home. A man may help with the dishes, but if that's all that's done
the kitchen will be a mess withing two days. I'm sure women out there know what I'm speaking about.

BTW, How come more women don't join in this conversation??

When kdis are sick, they want their mother.
When a cake needs to be baked, it'll be the mother who does it.
This is complicated to get into, but just like a man is RESPONSIBLE for changing the
tire on a car, the woman is responsible for the entire running of the home.

Of course, this is a generalization - this must always be said.

What's that saying:
A man might work from dusk till dawn
But a woman's work is never done.

I believe you did say this, and this is the "weight" a woman feels.
Just like a man feels the weight of being the bread-winner.

Wondering
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hello wondering, dirtfarmer here

Titus 2:5 states that women are to be "keepers at home", is to manage the home. In this modern age that we live a lot of women work, so when both get home from work, the wife is the director and the husband is the actor.

The woman being responsible for the home is biblical. The husband is responsible providing the home. It is my belief that women see immediate goals( not saying she is short sighted) the inner circle and men the long term goals, those that are in the outer circle. God is the center of all that is the home. an example, but not a very good one, the woman should not have to worry if the dishwasher breaks do we have the means and funds to repair or replace, if necessary. The man has that responsibility. Major decisions should be discussed between both but the final decision should come from the husband, as God has given the responsibility to provide on his shoulders.
 
dirtfarmer said:
The woman is an helpmeet, not a slave.
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"6just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord" (1 Peter 3:6 NASB)

In our modern terminology, Peter means 'master'. Wives are to consider their husbands masters.

Now, let's not do what the church loves to do to scripture and insist it can't possibly mean what it says.
I was surely one who would reject any argument that Peter literally meant the husband is the master of the wife. But after many years of a difficult marriage I now know women will be most happy if they submit to God's plan for marriage where the man is the master and the woman is a quiet submissive servant of her master. Just like in your favorite romance novel, women, where the man is a well-to-do business man and your dream and hope is to get in good with him and enjoy his estate, not get in good with him to own and rule and control and change his estate and make him your slave!

(Move over Allen Wynne , make room in the dog house for the both of us. :lol)
 
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Now, it must be understood that just because men these days are not trained to be masters of their estates that somehow negates the Biblical counsel for women to consider their husbands master and submit to him accordingly. For surely, that is the argument that is going to be used against the verse I posted above. The verse is not a license for a man to be a selfish jerk. But even if he is, Peter says to win him over with your love, not your obstinate, hateful, contemptuous resistance.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
"6just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord" (1 Peter 3:6 NASB)

In our modern terminology, Peter means 'master'. Wives are to consider their husbands master.

Now, let's not do what the church loves to do to scripture and insist it can't possibly mean what it says.
I was surely one who would reject any argument that Peter literally meant the husband is the master of the wife. But after many years of a difficult marriage I now know women will be most happy if they submit to God's plan for marriage where the man is the master and the woman is a quiet submissive servant of her master. Just like in your favorite romance novel, women, where the man is a well-to-do business man and your dream and hope is to get in good with him and enjoy his estate, not get in good with him to own and rule and control and change his estate and make him your slave!

(Move over Allen Wynne , make room in the dog house for the both of us. :lol)
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hello Jethro Bodine, dirtfarmer here

Are you suggesting that when the man walks in the door that the wife prostrates herself before him and says " Master"?
 
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