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If being gay is a sin, why did God make people like that?

I don’t know which sins are more sinful in God’s sight, but I do know that there are sins that are more punishable in Hell than others. And if next you ask me where in The Bible that is, it’s ( Lk 12:47 “That servant who knows his master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows.) The blows are given in Hell,
All of hell is bad but there are degrees of punishment.

By the way, it’s starting to sound like you are taking up for the gays. Is that so.
 
Lee100 said:
I don’t know which sins are more sinful in God’s sight, but I do know that there are sins that are more punishable in Hell than others. And if next you ask me where in The Bible that is, it’s ( Lk 12:47 “That servant who knows his master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows.) The blows are given in Hell,
All of hell is bad but there are degrees of punishment.

By the way, it’s starting to sound like you are taking up for the gays. Is that so.
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I'm a little tired at the moment(it's 12:40 AM right now) so I can't be bothered to figure out if you're right about the varying levels of punishableness(I doubt that's a word :shrug ) right now.
I haven't thoroughly read through the Bible in quite a while so I'll have to read up on this more later(some time after I sleep :lol ) before I can continue conversation about it.

As for your last question, or at least I think it was a question, I do not believe homosexuality is wrong. So I suppose I would be 'on their side'(so to speak), if that's what you were asking?
But I'm not trying to argue for them. I'm just trying to figure out where you're getting your ideas from in the Bible.
 
Thanks so much, at least I know where I stand with you on this matter.
I don't remember if you said this before, so I will ask it again. are you yourself gay or straight.
 
Lee100 said:
Thanks so much, at least I know where I stand with you on this matter.
I don't remember if you said this before, so I will ask it again. are you yourself gay or straight.
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I am neither homosexual nor heterosexual.
I am asexual, though I'm also panromantic.
 
fcs25 said:
Being gay is NOT a learned choice,that is a convenient excuse for a bad theology.
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Um, we haven't been discussing that in this thread for a while now.
And even if we were, the people here who believe it is learned have actually provided their reasoning. It's not very smart to come in here and just disagree without any reasoning or proof to back your claims, and it makes it seem like you're here just to start trouble. >_>
 
Reido, it sounds to me like you are the one who is trying to stir us Christians up to anger by trying to defend the gays. We as Christians will always agree with the Bible and you know as well as any of us here that God conceders homosexuality a sin. So if we are bothering you by agreeing with God’s word, by condemning the sin of homosexuality, I can’t help that. It seams like you don’t fit in too well here on a Christian discussion board. Why did you join anyway.
 
Lee100,

Reido has done nothing in this thread, other than show that he has a desire to learn differing viewpoints. Whether or not you consider him to "fit in" is irrelevant.
 
Lee100 said:
Reido, it sounds to me like you are the one who is trying to stir us Christians up to anger by trying to defend the gays. We as Christians will always agree with the Bible and you know as well as any of us here that God conceders homosexuality a sin. So if we are bothering you by agreeing with God’s word, by condemning the sin of homosexuality, I can’t help that. It seams like you don’t fit in too well here on a Christian discussion board. Why did you join anyway.
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I'm not trying to defend them. As I said I would most likely take their side if we were to debate that, but that's not what I'm trying to do here.
I understand that most Christians consider homosexuality a sin, I'm just trying to learn more about that.
You're not bothering me by agreeing with God's word, nor are you bothering me by condemning homosexuality. If that bothered me then I wouldn't have come to a Christian forum in the first place.
Perhaps I don't fit in too well, but as long as I'm allowed to stay I'm not leaving until I'm ready to.
I do have differing beliefs than most people here, but I'm trying not to let that disrupt things too much.
I said why I joined in my introduction, but I guess I can't expect everyone to have seen that so I'll say it again. I joined on a whim, really. I just felt like joining, so I did. No real reason behind it. I was bored, I guess.
Now I'm interested in these forums, it's been a while since I've discussed things with Christians.
And I'll leave the boards whenever I become uninterested in them or if problems arise.
The fact that I have different beliefs than the majority of these forums may cause some complications here, but I'll try to keep that to a minimum.

My apologies if anything I said has caused problems here, though.
 
Reido,

You "fit in" fine. These forums have rules and the only forum in which a non-Christian cannot post is the Christian Talk & Advice forum.
As far as I'm aware; You have not violated any of our Terms and therefore have nothing to apologise for.
 
We are all born outside the fellowship of God, and hence in sin. We don't have any particular sin at birth...our soul is just a clean slate for sin to write on. Which sins and how deeply they are engraved intto our souls depends on many factors...all of which take place as we come into contact with the world. We cannot live in a vacuum, so we will latch onto something that gives us an identity, a purpose, and a sense of being. Homosexuality is one such vice, that some have seared into their souls. We really underestimate the power of such things as the media, the power of suggestion, rejection, abuse...etc.

Outside of God everything is a real mess! :yes

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John
 
Adullam said:
We are all born outside the fellowship of God, and hence in sin. We don't have any particular sin at birth...our soul is just a clean slate for sin to write on. Which sins and how deeply they are engraved intto our souls depends on many factors...all of which take place as we come into contact with the world. We cannot live in a vacuum, so we will latch onto something that gives us an identity, a purpose, and a sense of being. Homosexuality is one such vice, that some have seared into their souls. We really underestimate the power of such things as the media, the power of suggestion, rejection, abuse...etc.

Outside of God everything is a real mess! :yes

<><

John
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Adullam,

Some Scripture to go with the understanding of our birth.
Ps 51:5
5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Eph 2:3
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Joe
 
In the UK there is this comedy programme called GimmeGimme Gimme.
Which basically is about two flat sharers,

Linda - Unattractive woman with bright died orange hair and big pink unfashionable glasses,
who thinks she is so adorable and attractive. But still a virgin because no guy likes her.

Tom - A Homosexial man, who is really femine compared to Linda who is quite butch but 100% straight and he hates Linda but puts up with her and occasionally are friends. Tom has no one either who fancies him which makes the show so comical

The point is Linda made a correct statement.

''Tom, Gay is just laziness, because you don't want to make an effort to chat up girls!!''
 
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I feel most of the drama concerning this topic and others like it is we fail to use the proper
phraseology when addressing them, please allow me to explain.

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1. Gay = Sodomite
2. Alcoholic = Drunk

Call a spade a spade we used to. :yes


turnorburn
 
If you all would surf back through this forum years back through these forums. You will see that we talked about this subject a thousand times.
 
turnorburn said:
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I feel most of the drama concerning this topic and others like it is we fail to use the proper
phraseology when addressing them, please allow me to explain.

thghostsmiley.gif


1. Gay = Sodomite
2. Alcoholic = Drunk

Call a spade a spade we used to. :yes


turnorburn
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The day is coming when we will be on the business end of the twelve gage, they have initiated new steps, if this plays out "and it will" jail will await those of us that speak out against the practice of "Sodomy" A Sodomite found a church where they read from the bible and spoke out against it, they were told if they continued they could move in with us and that's Canada. And how dare they say our creator made them that way is ludicrous, blasphemous is a better word. Jesus invites everyone to come, come to him if you hunger or if you a thirst, its not our fault the prefer darkness rather than light. There is a new age coming in our near future where evil is good and good is evil...

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

turnorburn
 
wow, i agree turnerburn. woe to many of us who struggle everyday in an increasingly sinful world. we cant just talk about God and how great He is, we have to hide it because everyone is so against Him. of course i dont, but many out there do and its so sad. i almost feel like we are living in the End Times, look at how much evil is going on! and yes i especially mean homosexuality. it seems to be on the rise as well, ppl "experimenting" and becoming more in sin. ands yes, i believe that the media really has the power to change ppl's minds (and perhaps sexual orientations). my family does not have cable TV anymore, we have TV's but we only watch movies and shows that we choose on video. however, there are millions of ppl who have TV still and are subjagated to sin and flith and watch tv shows and movies that condone homosexuality like its so normal when only 50 years ago it was shameful and wrong! its only nowadays that its being talkin about normally. well, this is one person they will never get influence. and like the bible says, "woe to those who think evil is good, and good is evil". ppl really think this is normal and thats what scares me. its actually quite disturbing.

my big question is, what can christians like me do to save marriage?? who can we write to, what organizations can we join? our voices need to be heard. once this country completely accepts homosexual "marriage", the country will be Godless and no longer be under the protection of Him.
 
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