That's not what I said. I said, not every word is "TO" every man, not "For" every man. There's a big difference.
Well, let's insert the Word 'by' as well so we have a triumvirate!
Does it really pay to strain over such matters? Isn't Every Word of God unto LIFE for those who adhere to same?
Yeah, let's add 'unto' as well!
You can't say theology isn't fun in some respects.
There's nothing spiritual about it.
Surely you jest? heh heh. 2 2 funny.
John was saying that they, the apostles had seen, heard, and touched Jesus, have you, has every man, has every Christian?
I would say in the spiritual sense, undoubtedly. Tasted as well.
Psalm 34:8
O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
Can we add 'see' without seeing and 'hear' without hearing to the list?
I understand the futility of trying to force fit spiritual matters to tangible only sights.
In the context of Paul's words. He compares those who are mature with those who are carnal (babes in Christ). This passage alone refutest the idea that every word applys to every person because Paul said some are mature and some are carnal (babes in Christ). He said "some" not every.
Paul himself said he was carnal. Also the 'chiefest of sinners.' Don't you find those statements of fact a bit odd? There were certainly a super abundance of 'sinners' to make comparisons to at the time, yet he deems himself chief of same.
There are spiritual ways to observe these matters of fact, yet not doing one bit of disservice to Paul. Knock yourself out trying to figure that out.
from this answer I can see you see the contradiction presented by that line of reasoning.
There are huge amounts of what may seem 'apparent' contradictions in the text. Could cite pages upon pages of same.
They are placed therein 'on purpose.' Spiritual matters will never make sense to carnal applications, and can't. It is impossible for the carnal mind for example to move into this matter:
Romans 8:7
Because
the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
It will remain impossible for the carnal mind to enter into spiritual understandings.
They're inspired by God bu not the words of God? Can you explain?
Teaching of Apostles is 'inspired' by the Holy Spirit, but are NOT the same as 'direct Words of God.' They 'teach' from a 'lesser' form of speaking. Why?
Because such are NOT GOD themselves in making those statements, and speak from the seat of inspiration, of the Spirit. And it is an 'invitation' to 'share' in such matters for us by the same Spirit who brings understandings.
It's a participatory matter for every believer engaged therein, that the Spirit must 'vivify' to the student in order for it to make sense. There we all take a similar 'lesser seat' as they did to learn of these matters to begin with.
Paul was not 'instantly enlightened' on every matter nor were any of the other Apostles.
But you said every word is applicable to ever man.
I made no such statement.
Cited Luke 4:4.
Jesus said what He said. I observe same. What 'reflections' individuals take will obviously vary. I like to think I accept that statement as a basis of understanding, difficult as it may be to engage. I have found 'life' in His Words where others will only see death. Funny how that works sometimes.
In a spiritual sense? Was Jesus only killed in a spiritual sense, of course not.
The death He died was assuredly physical. Yet God did not suffer His Body, The Body of His Image to suffer corruption, but instead glorified same.
Did the Spirit of God die? Uh, no.
This shows that every word cannot be applied to every man.
The only way Jesus' statement of fact can be understood is through the avenue of spiritual understandings. To try to pin any given Word as applicable only to a given man doesn't work and makes Jesus' statement of fact in Luke 4:4 for example, inapplicable. That methodology and approach does not work. But is often employed to DENY Gods Words. That's just a place I can't go.
Every man can learn from every word of God, thus the verse you posted. However, not every word applies to every man.
Yes, and you don't see yourself
chasing your own contradicted tail in the above either.
As it pertains to this subject of sin, you understand a believer still has sin, yet it is not counted against us, even while we stand condemned under same.
These are not easy matters to come to grips with. The 'natural' tendency is to sell ourselves out to covers and excuses for our sin and to crawl entirely under and only the Good Side of the Word,
when in fact there is WORD also meant to kill, and FOR OUR BENEFIT.
enjoy!
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