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Im slightly skeptical about Jesus?

Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.
You do know that Jesus is God .

He can be worshipped. The Trinity is clear
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.
If Jesus was just a prophet or good man, then He was a crazy one.

There's a thread you might want to see in
THEOLOGY
it has the title of God being identified as 3 persons.

Check it out.

 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.

And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. John 14:13



And in that day you will ask Me nothing. Most assuredly, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in My name He will give you. Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full. John 16:23-24



Rest assured that you can pray to the Father in Jesus name, and He will hear you.

He loves you deeply, and desires for you to be close to Him.

He sent HIs Son to pay the price for you to be reconciled to Him, to know Him intimately and talk to Him as much as you desire.


Sometimes He wants you to just set your mind and heart upon Him and be still and allow His Presence to wash over you.


He longs for us to allow Him to love us… beyond all we can ask or imagine.


He is love.




JLB
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.
Jesus claimed to be God in human flesh. So, if Jesus was merely a prophet or a good person, then he lied, which means he could be neither of those things. Jesus taught his disciples to pray to the Father (Matthew 6:6-15) , but also that if they were to ask anything in his name, he would do it (John 14:13-14). As Jesus is also God (I know, it's confusing and difficult), we can pray to him as well.

The Bible is one large, consistent story from beginning to end. While it might be hard to imagine Jesus being raised from the dead, if God exists and he created everything that has come into existence, then it is perfectly consistent with the power and knowledge of God that he would be able to raise Jesus from the dead. The resurrection of Jesus is so important, that Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 15, that if Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then we are to be pitied for holding to our beliefs and our faith is useless as there is no salvation.

The resurrection of Jesus is literally everything. Without it, Christianity is completely false.
 
Hi PrimFinallyFoundGod!
Our gentle Lord teaches us to pray to our Father.
It is difficult to believe the miracles recorded in the Bible, especially our Saviors' conquering death, but that's why he came.
Study that way, because our humble King did this for all mankind. He loved and forgave those who hurt him, demonstrating what his Father is. And who could serve a better god than that? 😊
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.

Yeah, looks like you're getting the same answers I would have given you.

This is a major debate on many Christian forums. People like the Jehovahs Witnesses and Muslims take the view He was not the Son of God. But Jesus being the very embodiment of the power of God on earth and not simply a good example is what makes Christianity - true Christianity - different. Some of the supernatural works you read about in the Bible may seem hard to believe at first - I know I was this way about the concept of Heaven being a real place with real mansions and a bunch of stuff that sounded fleshy to me. But ask for the Lord to manifest Himself in more ways supernaturally to you. Charismatics like myself and others here have experienced a number of things that fit this category, and as the supernatural things of God become increasingly part of your life, believing in the supernatural events described in the Bible and the fact that Jesus was much more than merely a prophet become easier and easier to do.

God bless,
- H
 
Hope this helps your trying to understand all of this as we believe by faith through God's grace, Ephesians 2:8-9.

1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1. God is Spirit, John 4:24, not flesh and blood and in the OT either spoke directly to the prophets or by angels and also various objects like a burning bush or an ass for example. Between the OT and NT God was silent towards Israel as when they returned to Israel from the Babylonian captivity they came back as merchants and not shepherds as they were disobedient to God going after other gods, Book of Malachi.

2. Jesus being the very Spirit of God before the foundation of the world as He and the Father are one was prophesied by the Prophets in the OT and spoken of by John the baptist in the NT as John being the forerunner of Christ calling all to repent. As foretold Christ did come as the word of God made flesh (skin, bone, blood) to be that light that shines in darkness. He came as redeemer Savior through Gods grace as Christ is our faith that all can repent of their sins and have eternal life with the Father to all who will believe in Him as Lord and Savior. John 1:1-4; 1 Peter 1:13-21

3. After the sacrifice of Christ God raised Him from the grave and as He had to ascend back up to heaven the promise was that He would never leave us or forsake us as when He ascended He sent down the Holy Spirit (Spirit of God) to indwell all who will believe in Christ and His finished works on the cross. In the OT Gods Spirit fell on them for a time and purpose under heaven. Now we are indwelled with that power and authority through Gods grace that the Holy Spirit now works in us and through us teaching all things God wants us to learn. All three are Spiritual and Spiritual awakenings in us to know the will of God and walk in His statures. John 16:7-15

Ephesians 4: 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit as all three coequal Gods Spirit.

Jesus being the right arm of God who knew no sin. Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Jesus is the word of God. John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Jesus is word, light and life that is God come in the flesh. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Gods Holy Spirit has come to indwell us and teach us. John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.

If the most difficult thing to imagine is Jesus Christ rising from the dead, then the most important consideration, would be the purpose of Christ being made after the power of an endless life, ( eternal life) and the replacement of the devils power of death, through the death of Christ, ( for us, dying in our sins.) to deliver us from the power of satan, ( death) unto the power of God. ( life)

Who else delivers us from death, but the one who had victory over it. ( if a person believes in life, they no longer follow the ways that receive death, which is unbelief in unrighteousness, so now they believe in their heart unto righteousness, which is belief in Jesus Christ the righteous, rising from the dead.

A person knows immediately if anyone speaks right, or does right, or if they are instead pretending, and are not sincere, because the whole world right now is without faith, it is the end of the world, and only if a person loves Jesus Christ in sincerity, can anyone know perfectly to the dividing apart of soul and spirit, discerning all the thoughts and intentions of the hearts, which is what speaks to us on these forums, peoples hearts, and what it is out of it, that they speak )



Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.


Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.




John 17:3 And THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE, THAT THEY MAY KNOW THEE, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, WHOM THOU HAST SENT.



Acts 26:18 TO OPEN THEIR EYES, and to turn them from darkness to light, and FROM THE POWER OF SATAN UNTO GOD, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.


Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might DESTROY HIM THAT HAD THE POWER OF DEATH, THAT IS, THE DEVIL;
15 AND DELIVER THEM WHO THROUGH FEAR OF DEATH, WERE ALL THEIR LIFETIME SUBJECT TO BONDAGE.


Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Hebrews 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16 WHO IS MADE, NOT AFTER THE LAW OF A CARNAL COMMANDMENT, BUT AFTER THE POWER OF AN ENDLESS LIFE.
17 For he testifieth, THOU ART A PRIEST FOR EVER after the order of Melchisedec.


Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have PUT ON IMMORTALITY, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP IN VICTORY.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.



1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even IN HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST. THIS IS THE TRUE GOD, AND ETERNAL LIFE.




As for prayers, it is the Spirit of the Son that prays in us, for us, to the Father.

Nobody can pray to the Father, but the Son.


Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
 
If the most difficult thing to imagine is Jesus Christ rising from the dead, then the most important consideration, would be the purpose of Christ being made after the power of an endless life, ( eternal life) and the replacement of the devils power of death, through the death of Christ, ( for us, dying in our sins.) to deliver us from the power of satan, ( death) unto the power of God. ( life)

Who else delivers us from death, but the one who had victory over it. ( if a person believes in life, they no longer follow the ways that receive death, which is unbelief in unrighteousness, so now they believe in their heart unto righteousness, which is belief in Jesus Christ the righteous, rising from the dead.

A person knows immediately if anyone speaks right, or does right, or if they are instead pretending, and are not sincere, because the whole world right now is without faith, it is the end of the world, and only if a person loves Jesus Christ in sincerity, can anyone know perfectly to the dividing apart of soul and spirit, discerning all the thoughts and intentions of the hearts, which is what speaks to us on these forums, peoples hearts, and what it is out of it, that they speak )



Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.


Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.




John 17:3 And THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE, THAT THEY MAY KNOW THEE, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, WHOM THOU HAST SENT.



Acts 26:18 TO OPEN THEIR EYES, and to turn them from darkness to light, and FROM THE POWER OF SATAN UNTO GOD, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.


Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might DESTROY HIM THAT HAD THE POWER OF DEATH, THAT IS, THE DEVIL;
15 AND DELIVER THEM WHO THROUGH FEAR OF DEATH, WERE ALL THEIR LIFETIME SUBJECT TO BONDAGE.


Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Hebrews 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16 WHO IS MADE, NOT AFTER THE LAW OF A CARNAL COMMANDMENT, BUT AFTER THE POWER OF AN ENDLESS LIFE.
17 For he testifieth, THOU ART A PRIEST FOR EVER after the order of Melchisedec.


Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have PUT ON IMMORTALITY, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP IN VICTORY.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.



1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even IN HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST. THIS IS THE TRUE GOD, AND ETERNAL LIFE.




As for prayers, it is the Spirit of the Son that prays in us, for us, to the Father.

Nobody can pray to the Father, but the Son.


Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Thanks for this information. I hope I wasn't offensive by asking such a question I just want to know Jesus but don't know him yet. I will continue to learn and grow my faith
 
Thanks for this information. I hope I wasn't offensive by asking such a question I just want to know Jesus but don't know him yet. I will continue to learn and grow my faith

If we are to believe to the saving of the soul, how can we be offended, and if we believe that Christ had to die in agony for us, how do we think we deserve anything, and just as Christ has given all for us, we could not believe in Him truly, unless we could only give the same.

It is two ways for everyone, light or darkness, if we do not know light, we know the other. If you wanted light, why not go to it, and know it immediately ? Only if a person realizes what darkness they are in, will they seek light quickly, especially as in the grave there is no light at all.

God is light and life, how are you seeking that by seeking from people, try seeking Jesus Christ, if it is Jesus Christ you want to know. ( if a person wants people, they talk with them instead.)


Isaiah 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

Job 17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness.

Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
 
If we are to believe to the saving of the soul, how can we be offended, and if we believe that Christ had to die in agony for us, how do we think we deserve anything, and just as Christ has given all for us, we could not believe in Him truly, unless we could only give the same.

It is two ways for everyone, light or darkness, if we do not know light, we know the other. If you wanted light, why not go to it, and know it immediately ? Only if a person realizes what darkness they are in, will they seek light quickly, especially as in the grave there is no light at all.

God is light and life, how are you seeking that by seeking from people, try seeking Jesus Christ, if it is Jesus Christ you want to know. ( if a person wants people, they talk with them instead.)


Isaiah 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

Job 17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness.

Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
Thank you very much I appreciate all of these verses <3 God bless you
So when I pray I should address it to Jesus Christ just double checking here? I really want to honour God's teachings and become the person he intended for me to be. :)
 
Thank you very much I appreciate all of these verses <3 God bless you
So when I pray I should address it to Jesus Christ just double checking here? I really want to honour God's teachings and become the person he intended for me to be. :)
If a person has the Spirit of Christ, that Spirit knows who it prays to.

If God has intentions to someone, they are what God wants them to be. ( good or bad.)

There are no questions to ask to anyone, forums cant give answers, even though they name their forums as such.

God gave testimony of life from the death, God can only teach life, and what is not God can only teach death. ( Jesus Christ loved in deed and truth, people love in word.
 
If a person has the Spirit of Christ, that Spirit knows who it prays to.

If God has intentions to someone, they are what God wants them to be. ( good or bad.)

There are no questions to ask to anyone, forums cant give answers, even though they name their forums as such.

God gave testimony of life from the death, God can only teach life, and what is not God can only teach death. ( Jesus Christ loved in deed and truth, people love in word.
So why do you use the forums
 
So basically I just need to have faith (pun intended haha)

I will do this but I still want to ask for forgiveness if I get anything wrong while trying to follow the creator's word.
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.
It is normal for new Christians to have doubts about who Jesus Christ is. As you grow in the faith you will discover that Jesus is God. "That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father which sent him" John 5:23.
 
It is normal for new Christians to have doubts about who Jesus Christ is. As you grow in the faith you will discover that Jesus is God. "That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father which sent him" John 5:23.
Thank you :)
 
Its the one thing that doesn't seem to automatically click with me with Christianity. I'll explain...

I'm scared that Jesus could simply of been a prophet and good example person.

Why? Because in Christianity you should pray directly to Jesus. What if in doing that I'm not getting through to God and instead committing idoltry?

Its very hard to imagine some of the stories told in the bible happening especially Jesus rising again.

I dont wish to offend anybody at all. Im a young adult exploring her faith. I lean more towards Christianity in that everything just clicks and feels right. It's just Jesus. I worry about unintentionally going against God.
If they are sincere, and recognize the Bible as God's word and the time it was penned, the many prophecies of Jesus should convince them. It is fulfilled prophecy that did it for me. Compare today with Mat 24 and consider when those were put into the Bible. What about 2 Tim 3:1-5, just like reading a newspaper.
 
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