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Imminent Destruction of the United States

Okay...
First you want us to go off site to another one where we don't Know the virus exposure...
Now you want us to download software so we can read your "free book".

Your list of requirements is growing up so fast....

And as we ask for reasons why you say what you say... other than "God told me" we aren't getting anything.

You are going to have to do better in this community if you expect to be listened to.
 
What is the historical context of this scripture?

John was on the Isle of Patmos writing the book of Revelation.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Babylon is a city: Rome


The USA is not a city.


This principle escapes your interpretation and you overcomplicate things and miss what is obviously lying before you.




JLB
 
Okay...
First you want us to go off site to another one where we don't Know the virus exposure...
Now you want us to download software so we can read your "free book".

Your list of requirements is growing up so fast....

And as we ask for reasons why you say what you say... other than "God told me" we aren't getting anything.

You are going to have to do better in this community if you expect to be listened to.
:salute
 
That attitude is not going to get you very far with many of us in here. Pride goeth before a fall.

I have already shown using many scriptures in many of my post that of the seven kings and the four beast Empires. The seventh one, who in it's own right with it's own government and banking system and has diplomatic ties with every nation around the world is described in Daniel 2, 7, 9; Rev 13-17 that was, is not, but yet to come.

I will post it once again even though you refuse to read it or understand it.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13. (Rev 17 What was was the Roman Empire) (Rev 17 What is not)The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon’s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. (Rev 17 but yet to come) The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to the Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Western Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire). The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.
You continue to explore historic accounts, and proclaim the Antichrist is some governmental power?

The future "Beast" will be a human man of Jewish decent, Rome and 1929 has absolutely nothing to do with this future figure the "Beast".
 
John was on the Isle of Patmos writing the book of Revelation.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Babylon is a city: Rome


The USA is not a city.


This principle escapes your interpretation and you overcomplicate things and miss what is obviously lying before you.




JLB
Jerusalem is the "Great City" spoken of in Revelation chapters 17-18, why do you disregard the presented scriptural truth?

In Revelation 11:8 "The Great City" is identified as Jerusalem where Jesus Christ was crucified, why do you deny this truth?

Jerusalem Is Mystery Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots!

Jerusalem Is Guilty Of All The Earths Blood, And That Of The Prophets, As Rev 18:24 States.

"Rome Didn't Exist To Be Guilty Of The Prophets Blood"

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:30-37KJV
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Jerusalem Is The "Great City" Where The Lord Was Crucified

Revelation 11:8KJV
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Revelation 14:8KJV
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Revelation 17:18KJV
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 18:10KJV
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

The Jewish Levitical Priesthood was clothed in purple, scarlet, precious stones and gold.

Revelation 17:4KJV
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Exodus 39:8-13KJV
8 And he made the breastplate of cunning work, like the work of the ephod; of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.
9 It was foursquare; they made the breastplate double: a span was the length thereof, and a span the breadth thereof, being doubled.
10 And they set in it four rows of stones: the first row was a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this was the first row.
11 And the second row, an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
12 And the third row, a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
13 And the fourth row, a beryl, an onyx, and a jasper: they were inclosed in ouches of gold in their inclosings.

Ezekiel 16:15-16KJV
15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlotthereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

Jerusalem Is Built Upon Seven Hills/Mountains, Just As Rome

Revelation 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

The Seven Hills Of Jerusalem, By Ernest L. Martin, Ph.D.

the City of Jerusalem as it existed in the time of Christ Jesus was also reckoned to be the "City of Seven Hills." This fact was well recognized in Jewish circles. In the Pirke de-Rabbi Eliezer, an 8th century midrashic narrative (section 10), the writer mentioned without commentary (showing that the understanding was well known and required no defense) that "Jerusalem is situated on seven hills"(recorded in The Book of Legends, edited by Bialik and Ravnitzky, p. 371, paragraph 111). And, so it was. Those "seven hills" are easy to identify.

If one starts with the Mount of Olives just to the east of the main City of Jerusalem (but still reckoned to be located within the environs of Jerusalem), there are three summits to that Mount of Olives:
  1. The northern summit (hill) is called Scopus [Hill One],
  2. The middle summit (hill) was called Nob [Hill Two],
  3. The highest point of Olivet itself, and the southern summit (hill) was called in the Holy Scriptures the "Mount of Corruption" or "Mount of Offence" [Hill Three] (II Kings 23:13).
  4. On the middle ridge between the Kedron and the Tyropoeon Valleys there was (formerly) in the south "Mount Zion" [Hill Four] (the original "Mount Zion" and not the later southwest hill that was later called by that name),
  5. The "Ophel Mount" [Hill Five],
  6. To the north of that the "Rock" around which "Fort Antonia" was built [Hill Six],
  7. And finally, there was the southwest hill itself [Hill Seven] that finally became known in the time of Simon the Hasmonean as the new "Mount Zion."
 
John was on the Isle of Patmos writing the book of Revelation.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Babylon is a city: Rome


The USA is not a city.


This principle escapes your interpretation and you overcomplicate things and miss what is obviously lying before you.




JLB
The historical context is that ROME is IN POWER at the time of the writing of REVELATIONS. Do you understand this?

AND NEW YORK CITY is the PROSTITUTE. It is the original capitol of the United States and where this country was originally founded.

But let's get back to the historical context of ROME RULING AT THE TIME OF REVELATIONS. So what does that MEAN for Revelations 17:10? Keep it simple now. What does that mean about Rome?
 
And then we have the whole Plymouth Rock or Independence Hall in Philadelphia PA for the Declaration of Independence...

New York didn't have anything to do with the founding of America.
 
The historical context is that ROME is IN POWER at the time of the writing of REVELATIONS. Do you understand this?

AND NEW YORK CITY is the PROSTITUTE. It is the original capitol of the United States and where this country was originally founded.

But let's get back to the historical context of ROME RULING AT THE TIME OF REVELATIONS. So what does that MEAN for Revelations 17:10? Keep it simple now. What does that mean about Rome?
You now refer to New York City being the whore of Revelation chapters 17-18,?

Please refer to post #105, that proves your claims false, as in the one verse in Revelation 18:24 alone silences your false claims.

New York isn't guilty of the blood of Prophets, and all slain upon the earth, Jerusalem is.

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:30-37KJV
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
 
Jerusalem is the "Great City" spoken of in Revelation chapters 17-18, why do you disregard the presented scriptural truth?

I don’t deny any scriptural truth.

I’m discussing what the scriptures say, not theories about the USA being a city or it being the 6th Babylon.

Why do you feel the need to attack me and accuse me?


JLB
 
How is New York City the "prostitute"?
In all other scriptures unfaithful Israel is described as a prostitute.
Again I will build you, and you shall be built, O virgin Israel! Again you shall adorn yourself with tambourines and shall go forth in the dance of the merrymakers. ~Jeremiah 31:4

Israel is the virgin, the complete opposite of the prostitute. Even after all her sins God still regards Jerusalem as as the city of the king. It is God's city and it is the city of peace. It is in no way the prostitute. God will return to Jerusalem and the temple will be rebuilt as described in Daniel 8 and Daniel 9.

But the important point here is that we understand one thing: that Rome is the 6th Babylon and is therefore unable to have anything to do with being the beast or the antichrist. It is just one of the 7 Babylons. The United States is the 7th because it says that it will remain "for a little while." No other nation will remain for as little time as the United States. And I'm saying this to warn you of its coming destruction.
 
Jerusalem Is Guilty Of All The Earths Blood, And That Of The Prophets, As Rev 18:24 States.

And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.” Revelation 18:24

Rome at the time of John writing this as well as when Rome became the seat of antichrist religion is responsible for the death of millions.

Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD and reigned as a world governing kingdom over the kings of the earth.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Jerusalem did not reign over the kings of the earth.



JLB
 
And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.” Revelation 18:24

Rome at the time of John writing this as well as when Rome became the seat of antichrist religion is responsible for the death of millions.

Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD and reigned as a world governing kingdom over the kings of the earth.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Jerusalem did not reign over the kings of the earth.



JLB
JLB why are you not finishing what you started here? Are you going to respond to my last post to you? The historical context of Revelations is that Rome is in power at the time of the writing of Revelations 17:10. So what does that mean for Rome?
 
JLB why are you not finishing what you started here? Are you going to respond to my last post to you? The historical context of Revelations is that Rome is in power at the time of the writing of Revelations 17:10. So what does that mean for Rome?

Rome was the fourth kingdom of Daniel and was in power at the time of Jesus, through when the book of Revelation was written, as well being the world power when Jesus returns and strikes the ten toes.

The kingdom will be divided into ten regions or kingdom ruled by ten kings.

The legs of iron represent Rome during the first century up until the time it fell.


The feet of iron and clay represent it at the time Jesus returns and destroys the ten kings of the later days Roman Empire, in which the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ.


Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The [f]kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
Revelation 11:15



JLB
 
Rome was the fourth kingdom of Daniel and was in power at the time of Jesus, through when the book of Revelation was written, as well being the world power when Jesus returns and strikes the ten toes.

The kingdom will be divided into ten regions or kingdom ruled by ten kings.

The legs of iron represent Rome during the first century up until the time it fell.


The feet of iron and clay represent it at the time Jesus returns and destroys the ten kings of the later days Roman Empire, in which the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ.


Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The [f]kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
Revelation 11:15



JLB
JLB no. We are talking about Revelations 17:10. The context of that verse. Answer me. If Rome is in power at the time of this writing then is that not the "one is"? Or are you going to blatantly disregard scripture?
 
JLB why are you not finishing what you started here? Are you going to respond to my last post to you? The historical context of Revelations is that Rome is in power at the time of the writing of Revelations 17:10. So what does that mean for Rome?

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Babylon is a city: Rome


The USA is not a city.


Please explain how you came to the conclusion that the USA is a city?



JLB
 
Again I will build you, and you shall be built, O virgin Israel! Again you shall adorn yourself with tambourines and shall go forth in the dance of the merrymakers. ~Jeremiah 31:4

Israel is the virgin, the complete opposite of the prostitute. Even after all her sins God still regards Jerusalem as as the city of the king. It is God's city and it is the city of peace. It is in no way the prostitute. God will return to Jerusalem and the temple will be rebuilt as described in Daniel 8 and Daniel 9.

But the important point here is that we understand one thing: that Rome is the 6th Babylon and is therefore unable to have anything to do with being the beast or the antichrist. It is just one of the 7 Babylons. The United States is the 7th because it says that it will remain "for a little while." No other nation will remain for as little time as the United States. And I'm saying this to warn you of its coming destruction.
Are you going to answer my question or not?
 
JLB no. We are talking about Revelations 17:10. The context of that verse. Answer me. If Rome is in power at the time of this writing then is that not the "one is"? Or are you going to blatantly disregard scripture?
JLB no. We are talking about Revelations 17:10. The context of that verse. Answer me. If Rome is in power at the time of this writing then is that not the "one is"? Or are you going to blatantly disregard scripture?

I answered your question.

Here it is again.


The legs of iron represent Rome during the first century up until the time it fell.


The feet of iron and clay represent it at the time Jesus returns and destroys the ten kings of the later days Roman Empire, in which the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ.


You are going ing to have answer some of my questions now.

This is not a one sided discussion.


And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:18


Babylon is a city: Rome


The USA is not a city.


Please explain how you came to the conclusion that the USA is a city?



JLB
 
I answered your question.

Here it is again.


The legs of iron represent Rome during the first century up until the time it fell.


The feet of iron and clay represent it at the time Jesus returns and destroys the ten kings of the later days Roman Empire, in which the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ.


You are going ing to have answer some of my questions now.

This is not a one sided discussion.


And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:18


Babylon is a city: Rome


The USA is not a city.


Please explain how you came to the conclusion that the USA is a city?



JLB
You are not answering the context of Revelations 17:10. Rome is in power at the time of this writing. So Rome is the 6th Babylon, not the 4th of iron in Nebuchadnezzar's dream. The five kings that had already fallen at the time of Revelations 17:10 are the same five kingdoms in Nebuchadnezzar's dream. So you are contradicting the account of scripture when you say Rome is the 4th Babylon when it clearly states that Rome is the 6th in Revelations 17:10.
 
And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.” Revelation 18:24

Rome at the time of John writing this as well as when Rome became the seat of antichrist religion is responsible for the death of millions.

Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD and reigned as a world governing kingdom over the kings of the earth.

And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation 17:18


Jerusalem did not reign over the kings of the earth.



JLB
John in his vision was looking forward into "End Times Events", not into his current day events of the 1st century.

You falsely suggest "Rome" is the whore, Mystery babylon, this is wrong.

Yes Jerusalem will reign over the Kings of the earth and the world, when the Antichrist takes his future seat in Jerusalem as seen in Revelation 13:8 below.

You also disregard Revelation 11:8 where "The Great City" is identified as where Jesus Christ was crucified, "Jerusalem" not Rome as you suggest.

Revelation 11:8KJV
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Revelation 13:8KJV
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him
, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

As you have clearly been shown in Revelation 18:24, Rome was not nor could be guilty of the Prophets blood, Jerusalem is.

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:30-37KJV
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
 
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