I am glad that you can not disagree and that you admit that so freely. I would like to ask you to allow me to moderate this conversation somewhat. I'm almost afraid to ask, because it may be something that you are not capable of, and if that is the case, please do forgive me. Moderate includes allowing others (yielding) to steer the conversation and to direct it. No, I'm not going to use force. That's not me. Still, I do not want to see this productive and energetic difference of opinion and viewpoint devolve as so many of the "chats" here do.
I do appreciate your view, that some things may be considered with GRACE, meaning UNMERITED FAVOR, and I am unwilling to absolutely insist that the whole counsel of God (including the parts you would rather were never said) be taken into consideration at this very moment and right now and all that. No. That's not grace. And that, my friend (I call you this in all sincerity) simply will not do.
So to you goes something that I also need. It's called longsuffering. But I don't like that word because I'm clumsy and heavy handed and you don't need it from me, I need it from God. That's my big deal. I do bend my knee and do resolve to go to extremes in showing, actively showing, my love for you, farouk. You are one of the most welcoming members I know. I'm not making this up and I have nothing more to say about it.
In Christ, the blessing you ask for me, is reflected and I hope, empowered unto you.
~Sparrow