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Is Faith Voice Activated?

Jethro Bodine said:
The voice is the outward expression of faith.

"13It is written: “I believed; therefore I have spoken.” b Since we have that same spirit of c faith, we also believe and therefore speak..." - 2 Corinthians 4:13
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So, why quote a verse that has nothing what so ever to do with naming and claiming.

Paul is talking about the life of faith, not about prayer.
 
LovethroughDove said:
I think you are right man! It's kinda like a chain reaction that happens all at once.

John 14:14 "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."

Luke 10:19-20 "I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

The chain reaction is Jesus's authority to overcome a situation. Like him speaking to the wind and waves. Luke 8:24-25
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It is the authority of the name of Jesus but he gave us authority. So we exercise the authority with our words.

Jesus spoke to the fig tree too, remember? And it wilted overnight.
wondering said:
How could someone pray wrong?
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By praying to God about the problem instead of to the problem about God. He gave us the authority and told us to go forth and heal the people, cast out devils, and all that.
Praying, Oh God, please have mercy upon me and heal me...is Old Testament pre-Jesus type of prayer. Jesus said, I give you the authority, go do it and whosoever asks whatsoever, it shall be done.

I think we're talking about Power & Authority. Our Lord God has the power to do anything, and He has given to us the authority to receive it so it will manifest.

Remember Jesus could not perform many healings in a couple different places in scripture? Because of their unbelief it says. Our belief that the words we speak will come to pass, without wavering, makes it happen. As long as it is within God's will of course. But I suspect that every single word that we speak is either a curse or a blessing. (Don't speak negative!). Every word either brings forth life, or death. (The power of life and death are in the tongue) so, as was already noted by a very wise poster here, be careful what you say.

Observation; I've noticed that, generally, young married couples do not fight fair when they argue nowadays. They curse each other and say terrible things back and forth. They do not realize that, every word between spouses either tears down or builds up. Scripture says, by our tongue we are Justified or Condemned.
 
Edward said:
It is the authority of the name of Jesus but he gave us authority. So we exercise the authority with our words.

Jesus spoke to the fig tree too, remember? And it wilted overnight.


By praying to God about the problem instead of to the problem about God. He gave us the authority and told us to go forth and heal the people, cast out devils, and all that.
Praying, Oh God, please have mercy upon me and heal me...is Old Testament pre-Jesus type of prayer. Jesus said, I give you the authority, go do it and whosoever asks whatsoever, it shall be done.

I think we're talking about Power & Authority. Our Lord God has the power to do anything, and He has given to us the authority to receive it so it will manifest.

Remember Jesus could not perform many healings in a couple different places in scripture? Because of their unbelief it says. Our belief that the words we speak will come to pass, without wavering, makes it happen. As long as it is within God's will of course. But I suspect that every single word that we speak is either a curse or a blessing. (Don't speak negative!). Every word either brings forth life, or death. (The power of life and death are in the tongue) so, as was already noted by a very wise poster here, be careful what you say.

Observation; I've noticed that, generally, young married couples do not fight fair when they argue nowadays. They curse each other and say terrible things back and forth. They do not realize that, every word between spouses either tears down or builds up. Scripture says, by our tongue we are Justified or Condemned.
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Yes. I see what you mean.
This is something I don't do.
I pray to God about the problem.
 
JohnDB said:
Easy guys...

Can anyone tell me the first recorded prayer in scripture?
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I had a feeling it was in the Garden.
But I'm not sure...I used google.


www.raystedman.org

Message: The Beginning of Prayer (Genesis 3:8-13)

This morning I want to begin with you a series on the subject of prayer, taking the development of this series largely from Old Testament truth and teaching about prayer. Our method is still going to be expositional -- understanding what each passage says -- but it will be centered around this...
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wondering said:
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Don't all denominations believe in prayer and praying?
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Yes, but do they believe in answer to prayer? And to what extent?

See, when you're taught over and over that there is no supernatural, miraculous intervention of God in the church today you won't have any faith in your heart from which to pray believing.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Yes, but do they believe in answer to prayer? And to what extent?

See, when you're taught over and over that there is no supernatural, miraculous intervention of God in the church today you won't have any faith in your heart from which to pray believing.
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I was taught that there are 3 answers:
Yes
No
Not now

Both churches I attended believe in the supernatural and in intervention by God.
I just was never taught that God will ALWAYS answer our prayer, for a healing, for instance.
 
wondering said:
Yes. I see what you mean.
This is something I don't do.
I pray to God about the problem.
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I do too.
Only rarely have I addressed the situation itself, like how Jesus and the Apostles did when they healed and cast out demons. I have noticed that the few times I did it just kind of came up out of me in great faith.
 
wondering said:
I was taught that there are 3 answers:
Yes
No
Not now

Both churches I attended believe in the supernatural and in intervention by God.
I just was never taught that God will ALWAYS answer our prayer, for a healing, for instance.
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I'm beginning to think answer to prayer is more a matter of 'when', not so much 'if'. I mean it definitely is 'when' if you are praying in response to a measure of faith God has placed in your heart. There is no 'if' in that case.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
I do too.
Only rarely have I addressed the situation itself, like how Jesus and the Apostles did when they healed and cast out demons. I have noticed that the few times I did it just kind of came up out of me in great faith.
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I notice different strengths of prayer.
Can't really explain it.

When casting out demons...
the demon does have to be addressed.
I mean REAL demons,,,not like the demon of cigarettes.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
I'm beginning to think answer to prayer is more a matter of 'when', not so much 'if'. I mean it definitely is 'when' if you are praying in response to a measure of faith God has placed in your heart. There is no 'if' in that case.
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What if the prayer is for healing and there's no healing?
This doesn't bother me...I accept God's will.
But some will say this is NOT prayer with enough faith.
I don't think I'm here to tell God what to do.
Also, I've noticed that somehow or other, what happens is always
to my benefit in the end.

I had 3 cats....16, 12, 2 yrs old.
The 16 yr old had to be put to sleep last summer.
It's sad.
The 2 yr old went out one day and never came back.
I was left with Pallina, the 12 year old and my favorite.
With my husband pretty sick,,,I could have thought God
was putting too much on me. But I trusted Him.
Turns out hubby got worse this winter and I could never
have handled 3 cats,,,having enough trouble with this one.
And He left me with my favorite one.
I thank God for all He does.
 
wondering said:
I notice different strengths of prayer.
Can't really explain it.
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'Faith'.
The measure of faith God has given, or not given, explains it.

Elijah beat the prophets of Baal because God told him exactly what to do, first. With that word came the faith to perform it. Without that word of faith.....nothing. He would have just been blowing hot air and looked foolish and presumptive.
 
wondering said:
What if the prayer is for healing and there's no healing?
This doesn't bother me...I accept God's will.
But some will say this is NOT prayer with enough faith.
I don't think I'm here to tell God what to do.
Also, I've noticed that somehow or other, what happens is always
to my benefit in the end.
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"...the God we serve is able to save us from it (the furnace), and he will rescue us from your hand, O king. But even if he does not, we want you to know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up." - Daniel 3:17-18
 
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