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Is gluttony a sin?
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His_nee (Jeff)
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Food labeled "diet" is made to increase food cravings. Without sugar to satisfy the bodies need for energy, it is 'natural' to try to keep eating to get what is needed, but it's just not there if the food is 'diet' food.
also, mineral deficiencies almost always, and maybe always, accompany addictions and cravings. the more that's taken, the more the deficiency (it gets worse in other words), and then more is wanted.
that's the small tip of the iceberg. maureen salaman's books, any or all of them, help a lot of people understand what's going on in their bodies (published a long time ago, and still very popular and authoritative).
Deborah13
Member
I'm sorry that you've had such a hard time. It is too bad it wasn't caught sooner. It's hard to get weight off once it is on.
Being overweight can be caused by several medical problems and medications and people need to remember that. Some of the overweight children we see also have sever asthma. The meds, steroids, cause them to be overweight. I really feel bad for these kids, they need to exercise to keep it off but at the same time they can't breathe well enough to do that.
imo....
This is why I was so grumpy about the idea of gluttony. Gluttony is not about greed or being fat, it's about eating but riotous eating and drinking. It's about behaviors associated with riotous living. That's what Jesus was accused of because of the people He was hanging out with. Remember the little tax collector guy, I can't ever remember his name and Jake is sleeping so I can't ask him, but anyway Jesus went home with him and ate at his house if I remember correctly.
That little guy became a believer and an honest man.I have heard that about diet pop.
I'm sorry that you've had such a hard time. It is too bad it wasn't caught sooner. It's hard to get weight off once it is on.
Being overweight can be caused by several medical problems and medications and people need to remember that. Some of the overweight children we see also have sever asthma. The meds, steroids, cause them to be overweight. I really feel bad for these kids, they need to exercise to keep it off but at the same time they can't breathe well enough to do that.
imo....
This is why I was so grumpy about the idea of gluttony. Gluttony is not about greed or being fat, it's about eating but riotous eating and drinking. It's about behaviors associated with riotous living. That's what Jesus was accused of because of the people He was hanging out with. Remember the little tax collector guy, I can't ever remember his name and Jake is sleeping so I can't ask him, but anyway Jesus went home with him and ate at his house if I remember correctly.
I have seen people blow up like a balloon on steriods.My brother had to be on them and we were once in a drug store.He came up to me and said "Hi Kathi".I did not recognize him.
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His_nee (Jeff)
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I just searched the web for 18 seconds to see what's up >>> a paragraph answer at this link is about all that anyone can say,
and it applies to most prescirption items. people don't realize that they can often ask for something else.
I don't remember if it mentions it, but there's also a few things to take to help avoid the side effects, even if they've been for 10 or more years.
It takes time, again, but hopefully it's an improvement.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_...Prednisone_because_of_the_side_effects_it_has
and it applies to most prescirption items. people don't realize that they can often ask for something else.
I don't remember if it mentions it, but there's also a few things to take to help avoid the side effects, even if they've been for 10 or more years.
It takes time, again, but hopefully it's an improvement.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_...Prednisone_because_of_the_side_effects_it_has
Alot of people with mental illnesses go off of their meds because they don't like the side effects.One of the side effects is gaining alot of weight.That is dangerous and alot of times they end up on the ER or worse.
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His_nee (Jeff)
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that's one of the reasons I picked and posted that link. go read it. it says to stay under the doctors care and warns how dangerous it can be to stop taking a medicine in some cases. the point is that there are options some doctors will never tell up front unless the person brings it up first; for a possibly wide variety of reasons. options that include when possible more natural helps, exercise, supplements (as simple as apple cider vinegar liquid or tablets; iodine; kelp; and vit e , for various conditions OR to avoid various side effects). sometimes a new doctor has to be found. (as mentioned also in the link)
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His_nee (Jeff)
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(all the school shootings in the last 50 years were by someone on mind-altering medication; or who had stopped taking it. this has been widely publicized now for about 35 years; give or take 25 
(who's counting?) )
(who's counting?) )It is very dangerous to go off the meds unless a person has a physians ok.
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His_nee (Jeff)
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like I said, that's what the link says. people should be told what their options are, but they almost never are told unless they find out on their own, or somehow, and ask the doctor directly.
Angel
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Angel
Member
I'm sorry for what you went through. (Hug)
Thank you Angel.Kind words from you
I have sometimes wondered if God used that in some way.I think that could be very possible.
iLOVE
Member
Proverbs 23
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
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23 When you sit and eat with an important person, remember who you are with. 2 Never eat too much, even if you are very hungry. 3 Don’t eat too much of his fine food. It might be a trick.
— 7 —
4 Don’t ruin your health trying to get rich. If you are smart, you will give it up. 5 In the blink of an eye, money can disappear, as if it grew wings and flew away like a bird.
— 8 —
6 Don’t eat with selfish people. Control any desire you have for their finest foods. 7 They might tell you to eat and drink all you want, but they don’t really mean it. They are the kind of people who are only thinking about the cost. 8 And if you eat their food, you will get sick and be embarrassed.
— 9 —
9 Don’t try to teach fools. They will make fun of your wise words.
— 10 —
10 Never move an old property line, and don’t take land that belongs to orphans. 11 The Lord will be against you. He is powerful and protects orphans.
— 11 —
12 Listen to your teacher and learn all you can.
— 12 —
13 Always correct children when they need it. If you spank them, it will not kill them. 14 In fact, you might save their lives.
— 13 —
15 My son, it makes me happy when you make a wise decision. 16 It makes me feel good inside when you say the right things.
— 14 —
17 Never envy evil people, but always respect the Lord. 18 This will give you something to hope for that will not disappoint you.
— 15 —
19 So listen, my son, and be wise. Always be careful to follow the right path. 20 Don’t make friends with people who drink too much wine and eat too much food. 21 Those who eat and drink too much become poor. They sleep too much and end up wearing rags.
— 16 —
22 Listen to your father. Without him, you would never have been born. Respect your mother, even when she is old. 23 Truth, wisdom, learning, and understanding are worth paying money for. They are worth far too much to ever sell. 24 The father of a good person is very happy. A wise child brings him joy. 25 Make both of your parents happy. Give your mother that same joy.
— 17 —
26 My son, listen closely to what I am saying. Let my life be your example. 27 Prostitutes and bad women are a trap. They are like a deep well that you cannot escape. 28 A bad woman waits for you like a thief, and she causes many men to be unfaithful to their wives.
— 18 —
29-30 Who gets into fights and arguments? Who gets hurt for no reason and has red, bloodshot eyes? People who stay out too late drinking wine, staring into their strong drinks.
31 So be careful with wine. It is pretty and red as it sparkles in the cup. And it goes down so smoothly when you drink it. 32 But in the end, it will bite like a snake.
33 Wine will cause you to see strange things and to say things that make no sense. 34 When you lie down, you will think you are on a rough sea and feel like you are at the top of the mast. 35 You will say, “They hit me, but I never felt it. They beat me, but I don’t remember it. Now I can’t wake up. I need another drink.”
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
— 6 —
23 When you sit and eat with an important person, remember who you are with. 2 Never eat too much, even if you are very hungry. 3 Don’t eat too much of his fine food. It might be a trick.
— 7 —
4 Don’t ruin your health trying to get rich. If you are smart, you will give it up. 5 In the blink of an eye, money can disappear, as if it grew wings and flew away like a bird.
— 8 —
6 Don’t eat with selfish people. Control any desire you have for their finest foods. 7 They might tell you to eat and drink all you want, but they don’t really mean it. They are the kind of people who are only thinking about the cost. 8 And if you eat their food, you will get sick and be embarrassed.
— 9 —
9 Don’t try to teach fools. They will make fun of your wise words.
— 10 —
10 Never move an old property line, and don’t take land that belongs to orphans. 11 The Lord will be against you. He is powerful and protects orphans.
— 11 —
12 Listen to your teacher and learn all you can.
— 12 —
13 Always correct children when they need it. If you spank them, it will not kill them. 14 In fact, you might save their lives.
— 13 —
15 My son, it makes me happy when you make a wise decision. 16 It makes me feel good inside when you say the right things.
— 14 —
17 Never envy evil people, but always respect the Lord. 18 This will give you something to hope for that will not disappoint you.
— 15 —
19 So listen, my son, and be wise. Always be careful to follow the right path. 20 Don’t make friends with people who drink too much wine and eat too much food. 21 Those who eat and drink too much become poor. They sleep too much and end up wearing rags.
— 16 —
22 Listen to your father. Without him, you would never have been born. Respect your mother, even when she is old. 23 Truth, wisdom, learning, and understanding are worth paying money for. They are worth far too much to ever sell. 24 The father of a good person is very happy. A wise child brings him joy. 25 Make both of your parents happy. Give your mother that same joy.
— 17 —
26 My son, listen closely to what I am saying. Let my life be your example. 27 Prostitutes and bad women are a trap. They are like a deep well that you cannot escape. 28 A bad woman waits for you like a thief, and she causes many men to be unfaithful to their wives.
— 18 —
29-30 Who gets into fights and arguments? Who gets hurt for no reason and has red, bloodshot eyes? People who stay out too late drinking wine, staring into their strong drinks.
31 So be careful with wine. It is pretty and red as it sparkles in the cup. And it goes down so smoothly when you drink it. 32 But in the end, it will bite like a snake.
33 Wine will cause you to see strange things and to say things that make no sense. 34 When you lie down, you will think you are on a rough sea and feel like you are at the top of the mast. 35 You will say, “They hit me, but I never felt it. They beat me, but I don’t remember it. Now I can’t wake up. I need another drink.”
Andrew Mason
Member
Yes
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elijah23
Guest
Yes:
He who keeps the law is a wise son,
but a companion of gluttons shames his father. Prov 28:7 RSV