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Eliminate eternal punishment you eliminate the gospel, its that simple.. What you'll end up with is another gospel and it won't be the gospel of Jesus Christ it will be the gospel of Atheistic Humanism..
tob
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Eliminate eternal punishment you eliminate the gospel, its that simple.. What you'll end up with is another gospel and it won't be the gospel of Jesus Christ it will be the gospel of Atheistic Humanism..
tob
The eternal punishment is death, just as the Bible says. You don't understand the gospel that you are arguing against. Nobody is suggesting that there is no eternal punishment. There just is no eternal conscious torment or torture. According to the Bible, the wages of sin is death. If you add torture to the gospel, you have changed the gospel.Eliminate eternal punishment you eliminate the gospel, its that simple.. What you'll end up with is another gospel and it won't be the gospel of Jesus Christ it will be the gospel of Atheistic Humanism..
tob
According to the Bible, the punishment for sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ. The eternal punishment is death, not eternal conscious torment.eternal punishment is eternal punishment eternal hell fire is eternal hell fire..
tob
Know therefore that the LORD your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his! commandments, John 14:1-15 ,Eliminate eternal punishment you eliminate the gospel, its that simple.. What you'll end up with is another gospel and it won't be the gospel of Jesus Christ it will be the gospel of Atheistic Humanism..
tob
According to the Bible, the punishment for sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ. The eternal punishment is death, not eternal conscious torment.
Same post in #67The title of this thread.. "Is it wrong to think about hell all the time"
We don't think about hell all of the time, for those of us that are saved we know we aren't going there..
tob
Yes,I think it is very important to know what exactly the Bible teaches about hell and it sure does say that it is eternal conscious punishment in hell.Same post in #67
No! , I don't think of Hell all the time, but I think to each its own idea of that place esp. if a person think for some reason, that they are going there, and bringing other people with them also! I think it would be a good idea to know for yourself of a Hell.
But in the book of Matthew 11:25-30 as we can read about who are we suppose to follow in life I Pet. 2:21 then I think you will see what to think about all the time. And you would know for sure what to think about:
http://genius.com/1733758/Holy-bibl...-if-there-be-any-praise-think-on-these-things
I would say that death is when this short journey has ended on this Earth.Eternal life where the soul and the body spend eternity.A true born again believer spends eternal life in heaven and the unbeliever spends their eternal life in hell.And eternal is a very,very long time.Never ending.While we are on this earth we make a choice of which place we want to go.What is death? What is eternal life?
Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I would if the argument was that people walk up to the gates of hell open up the door and walk in.It would have been so easy for you to say "I guess the Bible really doesn't say that people send themselves to hell".
But you just couldn't do it.
Which one? The first one, or the second one?What is death?
The confusion comes in because when one speaks of eternal punishment they have to explain if they mean eternal as in eternally irreversible, or eternal as in suffering consciously for an eternity. The first is definitely true. I personally don't know about the second one. Right now I gravitate more toward the conscious punishment of unbelievers being for a time, perhaps during the thousand year reign (which they can see but can't participate in), but who are then obliterated in the lake of fire after the great white throne judgment.Eliminate eternal punishment you eliminate the gospel, its that simple.. What you'll end up with is another gospel and it won't be the gospel of Jesus Christ it will be the gospel of Atheistic Humanism..
tob
So both have eternal life?I would say that death is when this short journey has ended on this Earth.Eternal life where the soul and the body spend eternity.A true born again believer spends eternal life in heaven and the unbeliever spends their eternal life in hell.And eternal is a very,very long time.Never ending.While we are on this earth we make a choice of which place we want to go.
Yes mame......So both have eternal life?