Pipiripi
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Is Jesus God? There are actually two answers to this question. One is MOST DEFINITELY YES! The other answer is no. And the answer depends upon what you mean by "God". Confused? There's no need to be! You see, the word "God" in the Bible refers to two things. In one instance it refers to the 'Sovereign of the universe', the 'only true God'. And in another instance it refers to the divine nature, the 'God nature' and the 'name of God.' So I will show you that while Jesus is FULLY divine and is FULLY God by nature (being begotten of the Father from eternity, Micah 5:2, Proverbs 8:22-30), and possessing the Father's own name, he is NOT the 'sovereign of the universe', the 'only true God' as that is His Father alone.
"The Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, IS TRULY GOD IN INFINITY, BUT NOT IN PERSONALITY."
In other words, Christ IS God in respect of being divine and eternal. But in His distinctive character and person, He is NOT the 'only true God', He is the SON OF the only true God - His Father!
Quick note: Jesus is NEVER called 'God the Son' in the Bible. He is always called the 'Son OF God'.
Now let me confirm quickly that I am in no way trying to make Jesus 'lesser' being than His Father. The Bible confirms that Jesus is EQUAL with the Father (Philippines 2:6). Jesus is as divine as His Father, just as my son is as human as me. But what I am addressing here are those trinitarian and unitarian confusions that make Jesus and the Father part of the same being.
According to the Trinity and Unitarian doctrines, Jesus Christ is the 'eternal, self-existence God', known as 'God the Son', viewing Him as the 'One God', even thinking Jesus is the Father also. But to believe that Jesus is also the 'Father' Himself is to believe that Jesus is the immortal God BUT DIED, is the invisible God, that no man can see, BUT WAS SEEN, is as great (in authority) as His Father BUT SAID HIS FATHER IS GREATER THAN HE, is the begotten Son and the unbegotten God, came out from Himself, prayed to Himself, gave power to Himself, thanked Himself, bore witnesses of Himself, went back to Himself, sits at the right hand of Himself, is His own Father and His own Son, left Heaven and yet was there all the time. AND SO THE CONFUSION OF BABYLON CONTINUES! And the whole world is deceived! So let me unravel the confusion. I will start with the most used verse to support the theory that Jesus is that 'one God' Himself, John 1:1-2
Those four words above, 'the Words was God' has convinced many Christians to believe that Jesus is the 'only true God' Himself. And yet they miss the simple meaning of what John was saying. Is this all John had to say about Christ? No. Look at what he said towards the end of his gospel: John 20:31
Why did John write his gospel? So that people might believe that Jesus Christ is the 'only true God'? No! That people might believe He is the SON OF GOD. And John records this just a few verses after John 20:17, where he records Christ telling Mary ... "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, AND YOUR FATHER; AND TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD."
Revelation 3:12
Do you see the problem with taking John's words in John 1 and applying a teaching to it without comparing scripture with scripture? So how can we reconcile this? How can John say that Jesus 'is God' and also say He is the 'Son OF God' and also record Jesus saying that the Father is 'HIS GOD'? Well, as I mentioned above, people are missing the simple message of John 1 and have a wrong understanding of it.
To begin with, the English translation of John 1:1 have a small but yet important word missing, which is in the original Greek. Let's add that word back in and see how it changes the verse ... "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [THE] God, and the Word was God." ... So Christ was with THE God in the beginning. So He was with someone who is THE God. Who is that? Again, John records it for us:
John 17:1-3
So John records a prayer that Jesus made to His Father in heaven, and Jesus confirmed in this prayer that His Father is THE only true God. So now we know who Christ was with in the beginning. And who is [THE] God? It is God the Father. The only being that is ever called "God the ..." in the Bible. The Holy Spirit' is never called 'God the Holy Spirit' and Jesus is NEVER called 'God the Son', Only the Father is called this, as He is 'THE only true God', which Jesus confirmed in John 17:3 and Paul confirmed in 1Corinthians 8:6.
Just think about this example for a moment. Let us reapply John 1:1 to Adam and Eve ... "In the beginning was the woman and the woman was with the human, and the woman was human.". Now does this mean Eve is as old as Adam? No, because we know Adam was created first (to represent the Father). Or does it mean that Eve is actually Adam herself? No, of course not. It is simply stating that Eve is HUMAN JUST LIKE ADAM. Keep this thought in your mind as we look further.
Now let us go a bit deeper into God's Word to further clarify this truth, that Jesus is God (divine) because He is the SON OF God, but not the 'only true God' Himself. There is a deep and beautiful truth in the creation of Adam and Eve that the majority of Christians miss today. Let's take a look.
Genesis 1:26. Genesis 2:21-23. John 16:27-28. John 17:7-8. Proverbs 8:22-25
There is a such beautiful truth in these words which many miss. God said 'let us make man in our own image'. So first of all, if the Trinity was truth, then why didn't God make THREE people? Why did He only make two? Not only that, can you see what happened with Adam and Eve is an IMAGE of what happened with God the Father and Jesus Christ?
The man EXISTED FIRST and then the woman was taken OUT OF MAN. And Jesus confirmed Himself as you can see above, that this is also what happened with Him. He came OUT of the Father, which is what Proverbs 8and Micah 5:2 also confirm. So for Jesus to come out of the Father, it means GOD THE FATHER EXISTED FIRST, and is represented by Adam. Then Jesus came OUT FROM or 'begotten' of the Father, and is represented by Eve being taken OUT OF Adam.
So what does it mean? It means that just as Eve shared the same human nature as Adam, being taken out of Adam, Jesus shares the same nature as God the Father, because He was taken out of the God. This is why John said that Jesus is 'God' in John 1. He wasn't saying that Jesus is the 'only true God' He was simply stating the fact that Christ shares the same nature as His Father, being the SON OF God the Father. And that makes Him 'God' - fully divine.
"The Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, IS TRULY GOD IN INFINITY, BUT NOT IN PERSONALITY."
In other words, Christ IS God in respect of being divine and eternal. But in His distinctive character and person, He is NOT the 'only true God', He is the SON OF the only true God - His Father!
Quick note: Jesus is NEVER called 'God the Son' in the Bible. He is always called the 'Son OF God'.
Now let me confirm quickly that I am in no way trying to make Jesus 'lesser' being than His Father. The Bible confirms that Jesus is EQUAL with the Father (Philippines 2:6). Jesus is as divine as His Father, just as my son is as human as me. But what I am addressing here are those trinitarian and unitarian confusions that make Jesus and the Father part of the same being.
According to the Trinity and Unitarian doctrines, Jesus Christ is the 'eternal, self-existence God', known as 'God the Son', viewing Him as the 'One God', even thinking Jesus is the Father also. But to believe that Jesus is also the 'Father' Himself is to believe that Jesus is the immortal God BUT DIED, is the invisible God, that no man can see, BUT WAS SEEN, is as great (in authority) as His Father BUT SAID HIS FATHER IS GREATER THAN HE, is the begotten Son and the unbegotten God, came out from Himself, prayed to Himself, gave power to Himself, thanked Himself, bore witnesses of Himself, went back to Himself, sits at the right hand of Himself, is His own Father and His own Son, left Heaven and yet was there all the time. AND SO THE CONFUSION OF BABYLON CONTINUES! And the whole world is deceived! So let me unravel the confusion. I will start with the most used verse to support the theory that Jesus is that 'one God' Himself, John 1:1-2
Those four words above, 'the Words was God' has convinced many Christians to believe that Jesus is the 'only true God' Himself. And yet they miss the simple meaning of what John was saying. Is this all John had to say about Christ? No. Look at what he said towards the end of his gospel: John 20:31
Why did John write his gospel? So that people might believe that Jesus Christ is the 'only true God'? No! That people might believe He is the SON OF GOD. And John records this just a few verses after John 20:17, where he records Christ telling Mary ... "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, AND YOUR FATHER; AND TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD."
Revelation 3:12
Do you see the problem with taking John's words in John 1 and applying a teaching to it without comparing scripture with scripture? So how can we reconcile this? How can John say that Jesus 'is God' and also say He is the 'Son OF God' and also record Jesus saying that the Father is 'HIS GOD'? Well, as I mentioned above, people are missing the simple message of John 1 and have a wrong understanding of it.
To begin with, the English translation of John 1:1 have a small but yet important word missing, which is in the original Greek. Let's add that word back in and see how it changes the verse ... "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [THE] God, and the Word was God." ... So Christ was with THE God in the beginning. So He was with someone who is THE God. Who is that? Again, John records it for us:
John 17:1-3
So John records a prayer that Jesus made to His Father in heaven, and Jesus confirmed in this prayer that His Father is THE only true God. So now we know who Christ was with in the beginning. And who is [THE] God? It is God the Father. The only being that is ever called "God the ..." in the Bible. The Holy Spirit' is never called 'God the Holy Spirit' and Jesus is NEVER called 'God the Son', Only the Father is called this, as He is 'THE only true God', which Jesus confirmed in John 17:3 and Paul confirmed in 1Corinthians 8:6.
Just think about this example for a moment. Let us reapply John 1:1 to Adam and Eve ... "In the beginning was the woman and the woman was with the human, and the woman was human.". Now does this mean Eve is as old as Adam? No, because we know Adam was created first (to represent the Father). Or does it mean that Eve is actually Adam herself? No, of course not. It is simply stating that Eve is HUMAN JUST LIKE ADAM. Keep this thought in your mind as we look further.
Now let us go a bit deeper into God's Word to further clarify this truth, that Jesus is God (divine) because He is the SON OF God, but not the 'only true God' Himself. There is a deep and beautiful truth in the creation of Adam and Eve that the majority of Christians miss today. Let's take a look.
Genesis 1:26. Genesis 2:21-23. John 16:27-28. John 17:7-8. Proverbs 8:22-25
There is a such beautiful truth in these words which many miss. God said 'let us make man in our own image'. So first of all, if the Trinity was truth, then why didn't God make THREE people? Why did He only make two? Not only that, can you see what happened with Adam and Eve is an IMAGE of what happened with God the Father and Jesus Christ?
The man EXISTED FIRST and then the woman was taken OUT OF MAN. And Jesus confirmed Himself as you can see above, that this is also what happened with Him. He came OUT of the Father, which is what Proverbs 8and Micah 5:2 also confirm. So for Jesus to come out of the Father, it means GOD THE FATHER EXISTED FIRST, and is represented by Adam. Then Jesus came OUT FROM or 'begotten' of the Father, and is represented by Eve being taken OUT OF Adam.
So what does it mean? It means that just as Eve shared the same human nature as Adam, being taken out of Adam, Jesus shares the same nature as God the Father, because He was taken out of the God. This is why John said that Jesus is 'God' in John 1. He wasn't saying that Jesus is the 'only true God' He was simply stating the fact that Christ shares the same nature as His Father, being the SON OF God the Father. And that makes Him 'God' - fully divine.
