IS JESUS CHRIST GOD?

[Pipiripi]

Like I said, I already gave every scripture reference I could find in the Bible. It takes the whole of scripture, not just a few verses, to even try to understand the Deity/Trinity.

Father, Son, Holy Spirit as all three coequal Gods Spirit.

Jesus is word, light and life that is God come in the flesh. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Gods Holy Spirit has come to indwell us and teach us. John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

I think that you are searching for the word begotten, a question: is begotten the same as coming forth from? Maybe in other types of writings in the bible you can find the word begotten. Like you have KJV and the NKJV.

 

[for_his_glory]

No, friend scriptures didn't say God Holy Spirit. It says the Spirit of God, or God's Holy Spirit.

Do you realize you just contradicted your self here. You said scripture didn't say God Holy Spirit, then you turn around and you say it did, which is it my friend.

 

[Pipiripi]

Do you realize you just contradicted your self here. You said scripture didn't say God Holy Spirit, then you turn around and you say it did, which is it my friend.

I think that you know English better than me. Read again what I have wrote.
God holy Spirit is not the Spirit of God. There are two different things there.

 

[for_his_glory]

According to the Trinity and Unitarian doctrines,

Unitarians do not believe in the Trinity just like The Mormons in their philosophies. The Mormon church sees God as the Supreme Being of the universe. However, He gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life. God the Father has a body (flesh and bones).

In contrast, the biblical Christianity proclaims God as eternally and infinitely supreme (Isaiah 44:6; Psalm 90:2). He is the same today as always (James 1:17). He is a spirit Being (John 4:24).

Because you are a Mormon you are leaving out the doctrines of Christ and replacing what He has already taught as you use the Book of Mormon (Another Testament of Jesus Christ) and Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price that Joseph Smith said they are Divine Authority. This is why you reject all the scriptures we have been giving you on this subject of the Deity/Trinity. It would do you good to through away those books and study

In contrast, the Christian church that began on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2, uses the Holy Bible alone as its authority from God (2 Timothy 3:16). Joseph Smith, who wrote the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price is not recognized by God as one of His prophets as he is a self proclaimed preacher with his own religion.

 

[for_his_glory]

I think that you know English better than me. Read again what I have wrote.
God holy Spirit is not the Spirit of God. There are two different things there.

These are the two statements you made:
"scriptures didn't say God Holy Spirit. It says the Spirit of God, or God's Holy Spirit...….Jehovah is God, so Jesus is also God."

I am very confused, do you believe or not believe in the Trinity as you are kind of all over the place with this.

 

[Pipiripi]

These are the two statements you made:
"scriptures didn't say God Holy Spirit. It says the Spirit of God, or God's Holy Spirit...….Jehovah is God, so Jesus is also God."

I am very confused, do you believe or not believe in the Trinity as you are kind of all over the place with this.

I believe in this three powers:
Jehovah God
Jesus Christ of NAZARETH
Holy Spirit who is God and Jesus own spirit.

 

[for_his_glory]

I think that you are searching for the word begotten, a question: is begotten the same as coming forth from? Maybe in other types of writings in the bible you can find the word begotten. Like you have KJV and the NKJV.

In the Bible the word begotten means a part of God's virtue as Jesus is fathered of God's Spirit, not by procreation, as in the word, which is God and the word became flesh (Jesus part of God's spirit/virtue) to seek and save the lost by all that God spoke and gave Jesus to do. Apart from God Jesus could have not come in the flesh nor even exist before the foundation of the world, John 12:49, 50.

 

[for_his_glory]

I believe in this three powers:
Jehovah God
Jesus Christ of NAZARETH
Holy Spirit who is God and Jesus own spirit.

It was a yes or no question, but I see that your answer is no. I would that you would study the Bible alone, but I know in your religion it takes the mixture of three books with two of them that leads people astray from truth.

 

[Pipiripi]

It was a yes or no question, but I see that your answer is no. I would that you would study the Bible alone, but I know in your religion it takes the mixture of three books with two of them that leads people astray from truth.

I have understand your problem. You are using the word THE for Jesus as God. But my true ONE ONLY (THE) GOD, have let me see where do you want to bring me, not only me but all. If we accept Jesus is THE God, then we have denial the Only One true God. And that is what the false Trinity Rome's Catholic Church teaches.
My question is Jesus Son of God? Yes or no.

 

[Pipiripi]

Unitarians do not believe in the Trinity just like The Mormons in their philosophies. The Mormon church sees God as the Supreme Being of the universe. However, He gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life. God the Father has a body (flesh and bones).

In contrast, the biblical Christianity proclaims God as eternally and infinitely supreme (Isaiah 44:6; Psalm 90:2). He is the same today as always (James 1:17). He is a spirit Being (John 4:24).

Because you are a Mormon you are leaving out the doctrines of Christ and replacing what He has already taught as you use the Book of Mormon (Another Testament of Jesus Christ) and Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price that Joseph Smith said they are Divine Authority. This is why you reject all the scriptures we have been giving you on this subject of the Deity/Trinity. It would do you good to through away those books and study

In contrast, the Christian church that began on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2, uses the Holy Bible alone as its authority from God (2 Timothy 3:16). Joseph Smith, who wrote the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price is not recognized by God as one of His prophets as he is a self proclaimed preacher with his own religion.

Never in your life God the Father have bone and flesh. Now I know exactly who you are. That's why you have delete the truth of the antichrist Roman Catholic Church.

 

[JLB]

Never in your life God the Father have bone and flesh. Now I know exactly who you are. That's why you have delete the truth of the antichrist Roman Catholic Church.

She is not of the antichrist Catholic Church.

Please refrain from making derogatory statements or you may lose your privileges to post here.

 

[JLB]

My question is Jesus Son of God?

Yes. Jesus is the Son of God.


He is the Lord God.


JLB

 

[Pipiripi]

Yes. Jesus is the Son of God.


He is the Lord God.


JLB

So a Son cannot be the Father. Look at the result of the Trinity and Unitarian teachings teach:

According to the Trinity and Unitarian doctrines, Jesus Christ, is the 'eternal, self-existent God', known as 'God the Son', viewing Him as the 'One God', even thinking Jesus is the Father also. But to believe that Jesus is also the 'Father' Himself is to believe that Jesus is the immortal God but died, is the invisible God that no man can see, but have seen, is as great (in authority) as His Father, but said His Father is greater than He, is the begotten Son and the unbegotton God, came out from Himself, prayed to Himself, thanked Himself, gave power to Himself, bore witnesses of Himself, went back to Himself, sits at the right hand of Himself, is His own Father and His own Son, left Heaven and yet was there all the time.
AND SO THE CONFUSION OF BABYLON CONTINUES! And the whole world is deceived!

 

[for_his_glory]

I have understand your problem. You are using the word THE for Jesus as God. But my true ONE ONLY (THE) GOD, have let me see where do you want to bring me, not only me but all. If we accept Jesus is THE God, then we have denial the Only One true God. And that is what the false Trinity Rome's Catholic Church teaches.
My question is Jesus Son of God? Yes or no.

I do not know what the Roman Catholic church teaches on the Trinity as I am not Catholic. I'm not using the word "The" for Jesus, but that Jesus is the word of God sent down to earth, personified in the flesh to teach that of what God gave to be spoken to the Jews first and then unto the Gentiles.

To answer your question is Jesus Son of God, I already explained that in post #27.

 

[JLB]

So a Son cannot be the Father. Look at the result of the Trinity and Unitarian teachings teach:

I go by what the scriptures teach.

Jesus is the Son; He is the Lord God.



JLB

 

[JLB]

According to the Trinity and Unitarian doctrines, Jesus Christ, is the 'eternal, self-existent God', known as 'God the Son', viewing Him as the 'One God', even thinking Jesus is the Father also.

Jesus is not the Father.



JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

Never in your life God the Father have bone and flesh. Now I know exactly who you are. That's why you have delete the truth of the antichrist Roman Catholic Church.

I'm not Catholic. Please read my post #27 again. I never said God the Father has flesh and bone as it is the Mormon church that sees God as the Supreme Being of the universe, however, He gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life. God the Father has a body (flesh and bones). This is an antichrist false teaching that comes from the religion you are learning from.

 

[for_his_glory]

Pipiripi

You are twisting and knitting three books together as one full authoritive Mormon teaching. The Book of Mormon and The Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price are also viewed as divinely authoritative by Joseph Smith who wrote them and spread his deceptive teachings that the Church of Latter Day Saints teach today that Ellen G. Eddy co-founded along with other Adventist leaders such as Joseph Bates and her husband James White.

The teachings of the Mormon church are heresies against the truth of the word of God as they add to and take away as they have seduced you into believing the lies they teach. There is a strict warning in Revelation 22:18, 19.

I am really surprised that you are not Catholic as in your country the Catholic population is 72.8% compared to Adventist which is only 3% among the other denominations and non-denominations as only being around 2 and 3%.

May I ask how you got involved with the Mormon Church?

 

[Link1983]

Did Jesus say He was not God?


Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:56-59


The Jews understood what He was claiming about Himself.


Do you?




JLB

Hey JLB!
Interesting subject to me this. Because I am trying to understand..
Many scripture seems to point to Jesus beeing Similar or the same as God. Yet some scriptures talk about the father and the son. Isn't Jesus the son of God?
If so, how can they be the same?
Shalom brother/sister

 

[Link1983]

This is my personal understanding of the three. They are not the same in person. But they are the same in the sense that they think and act accordingly. They are in complete agreement.
This may be three. And this may also be one..
It's probably above our minds to grasp.
Either way stay humble!