IS JESUS CHRIST GOD?

[JLB]

Holy Spirit = Their Spirit, their own life. Their power, that's why it is everywhere. It is their breath/mind, something that belong only to them. And when we received their Holy Spirit in us, than ot isn't more that are speaking, but it is the Holy Spirit that are speaking to the one that are listening.

The Holy Spirit is one with Christ and the Father.

They are each God.

The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God are one.

The three of them are one God.


God is Spirit.


JLB

 

[JLB]

The Holy Spirit is God power. Can I write who the Holy Spirit is?

The Holy Spirit is God.
The Spirit of Christ is God.
The Spirit of God is God.



JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

They also can say the same my friend, if you read exactly what the Bible says, and interpreted contrary the Bible, should I have to be agree with you? This is an example: Matthew 5:17-18. Jesus says think not, or don't think. But why the most Christians are thinking the opposite? The see it and read it and know it, but go against it. You all are thinking that the laws are done by the cross. Why don't just follow only Jesus?
God said REMEMBER my Sabbath and keep it Holy, but the most denominations have FORGET it. And now are keeping the Sunday Pagan SUN worship. Do you think that God is happy by breaking His Commandments?

When one tells another they have no understanding then this makes the one saying this to hold them self in high esteem as having all knowledge and the other one to having no knowledge. This is disrespecting the other person in what and how they study and learn.

This thread has nothing to do with the law or the Sabbath day as every Christian knows the Sabbath is on a Saturday. This is why we discuss the scriptures with each other in how we understand them and can glean from others who have more Spiritual knowledge and wisdom then we do. We have to Spiritually discern what is being taught us and if it does not line up with the full context of the scriptures from the OT to the NT then we must reject those teachings.

As a child of God he has given us His word in what we call the Holy Bible inspired of God who had the Prophets and disciples to write. We need no other supplements like the Book of Mormon and The Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price as they are not divinely authoritive. This is why at one instance you say all three are God and then turn around and say they are not. You present a mixture of three books twined together with what the leaders of your church teach from all three books which adds to and takes away from the truth of the word of God.

I say all of this out of love for you being my brother in Christ and how easily it is to be mislead (as well I know) by those who are our Pastors and should be teaching truth and not man's doctrines. I pray and ask that you take this with the intention of love and not criticism towards you.

God bless you.

 

[Pipiripi]

You are viewing this as what is taught in your religion that God, as the Supreme Being of the universe, gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life and has a flesh and bone body. This is why you can not see that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit all equal God's Spirit as all three are co-equal as being God's Spirit.

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Water in these verses means living water as in the living word of God, John 4:4-26; 7:37-39; 12:44-50; Ephesians 5:26; 1 John 5:5-8; Jeremiah 17:13; Zechariah 14:8, 9; Rev 21:6-8; Ezekiel 47:22

Jesus is word, light and life that is God transfigured in the flesh.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Gods Holy Spirit has come to indwell us and teach us. John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

It's all God's Spirit manifested in the flesh of Christ and the Holy Spirit being God's Spirit that indwells us. All three, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, are existence, being, and life that make up the full Godhead. Can we comprehend all of this, no, as we can only know in part until Christ returns and then we will understand the full when we are with Him in the New Jerusalem.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

I Am who I Am. This name tells that God is beyond definition, comparison and no limiting name could ever be given Him. He is self-existent and eternal. Exodus 3:14; 6:2; Isaiah 40:28; John 8:58; 10:30; 14:6; 20:28; Rev 19:6.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

My religion is the Bible. This people is my religion: Revelation 12:17 and 14:12-13.

 

[Pipiripi]

When one tells another they have no understanding then this makes the one saying this to hold them self in high esteem as having all knowledge and the other one to having no knowledge. This is disrespecting the other person in what and how they study and learn.

This thread has nothing to do with the law or the Sabbath day as every Christian knows the Sabbath is on a Saturday. This is why we discuss the scriptures with each other in how we understand them and can glean from others who have more Spiritual knowledge and wisdom then we do. We have to Spiritually discern what is being taught us and if it does not line up with the full context of the scriptures from the OT to the NT then we must reject those teachings.

As a child of God he has given us His word in what we call the Holy Bible inspired of God who had the Prophets and disciples to write. We need no other supplements like the Book of Mormon and The Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price as they are not divinely authoritive. This is why at one instance you say all three are God and then turn around and say they are not. You present a mixture of three books twined together with what the leaders of your church teach from all three books which adds to and takes away from the truth of the word of God.

I say all of this out of love for you being my brother in Christ and how easily it is to be mislead (as well I know) by those who are our Pastors and should be teaching truth and not man's doctrines. I pray and ask that you take this with the intention of love and not criticism towards you.

God bless you.

My friend I told more then twice, I am not a MORMON, Mormon also believed in the false Trinity doctrine. Go and see on Wikipedia who is the foundation of the SDA are and how they have come together. Go on YouTube and see from where the Trinity doctrine has born. Go and study what is a Jesuit and a freemason. For to be a leader for controlling and helping churches, you must have knowledge of all denominations. You must see all news concerning end times sign. Stop fighting against people that can answered all questions BIBLICAL. Stop looking on religion.
This is my religion Revelation 12:17
Revelation 14:6-12. My question who is the person that don't receive the mark of the beast? And 14:13 is my work here.

 

[Pipiripi]

The Holy Spirit is one with Christ and the Father.

They are each God.

The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God are one.

The three of them are one God.


God is Spirit.


JLB

You just say it thanks to follow my BIBLICAL teaching. And if you say it is God and Jesus Spirit, then it is some that belong to them.

 

[JLB]

You just say it thanks to follow my BIBLICAL teaching. And if you say it is God and Jesus Spirit, then it is some that belong to them.

Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean.

 

[Pipiripi]

Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean.

In post 67 you declared that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and the Father. And that is true. It is something that belongs to both. So it cannot be another person being and called God. It is part of their own lifestyle. It is their life. Their power that covered everywhere.

 

[JLB]

In post 67 you declared that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and the Father. And that is true. It is something that belongs to both. So it cannot be another person being and called God. It is part of their own lifestyle. It is their life. Their power that covered everywhere.

If the scripture taught us these two are one, then maybe you would have a point.

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
1 John 5:7


JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

My religion is the Bible. This people is my religion: Revelation 12:17 and 14:12-13.

The Bible is not a religion, but the teachings of the Father as instruction in righteousness that we walk according to His commands and statures.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

[Pipiripi]

Whs

The Bible is not a religion, but the teachings of the Father as instruction in righteousness that we walk according to His commands and statures.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

What is religion? Don't Google it!

 

[Randy]

Listen, Jesus was before Mary. When Jesus became Human it was for to die for our sin. Like I told you before, that you are talking everything literally how it is written in the Bible. But the spiritual things you cannot see. Are you thinking that the Holy Spirit has have sex with Mary? It is just a question.

Jesus was before the creation. He is before all things except the Father.
The Son who was, His Spirit, was in the tent of the "body" God prepared for Him.
I believe Mary conceived by the Spirit of God. That is not a male/female union. (sex)
The church views the HS as a person. Mary conceived by the HS. Jesus does not refer to the HS as His spirit or His Father. Rather Jesus calls the one on the throne in heaven His Father and His God.

 

[for_his_glory]

No, just the way you don't know who the Roman Catholic Church is, it's the same way you don't know who are the SDA CHURCH. I hope that you know the foundation of your church. Who has bring the false Trinity doctrine in your church? I know who has bring this false teaching in my true Pioneers church, the church of the Bible.

I have studied the origins of the Roman Catholic Church very deeply, plus The Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Universalism, Scientology and many other religions that came by man's beginning and all their various doctrines that come against the doctrines of Christ for what He has already taught. I know you whole heartily believe what the LDS church teaches as you have been seduced unknowingly to believe all that is written in their other two books as you try to mix it in with the Bible. Do you really think all these different denominations/non-denominations throughout the world have been established by God Himself giving each a different doctrine that contradicts His own word? There are over 5000 different religions in the world, do you think God established all of them.

The true church began on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2, not in a building, but on the street in Jerusalem as Peter was the first appointed preacher of the word. From that day on many have been adding to the word and taking away from it as they allow the spirit of Jezebel teach from their pulpits seducing those who follow after her.


Latin root word for religion is bondage, which is different then that of Gods pure religion of James 1:27, but that of following tradition and the doctrine of a mans church, not Gods true Church. The Latin root word is religare as re is a prefix that means return and ligare means to bind. Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ.


John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 the same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

 

[Pipiripi]

Jesus was before the creation. He is before all things except the Father.
The Son who was, His Spirit, was in the tent of the "body" God prepared for Him.
I believe Mary conceived by the Spirit of God. That is not a male/female union. (sex)
The church views the HS as a person. Mary conceived by the HS. Jesus does not refer to the HS as His spirit or His Father. Rather Jesus calls the one on the throne in heaven His Father and His God.

This is the church wrong view. The think that the Holy Spirit is another being, they have failed to realize that the Holy Spirit is Jesus Himself. Thatd why when Jesus was on earth the Holy Spirit was in the Father. And when Jesus ascended to heaven He have poured out His Holy Spirit to the people and apostles who was worshipping God by the pentecost. The Holy Spirit is their power.

 

[Pipiripi]

I have studied the origins of the Roman Catholic Church very deeply, plus The Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witness, Universalism, Scientology and many other religions that came by man's beginning and all their various doctrines that come against the doctrines of Christ for what He has already taught. I know you whole heartily believe what the LDS church teaches as you have been seduced unknowingly to believe all that is written in their other two books as you try to mix it in with the Bible. Do you really think all these different denominations/non-denominations throughout the world have been established by God Himself giving each a different doctrine that contradicts His own word? There are over 5000 different religions in the world, do you think God established all of them.

The true church began on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2, not in a building, but on the street in Jerusalem as Peter was the first appointed preacher of the word. From that day on many have been adding to the word and taking away from it as they allow the spirit of Jezebel teach from their pulpits seducing those who follow after her.


Latin root word for religion is bondage, which is different then that of Gods pure religion of James 1:27, but that of following tradition and the doctrine of a mans church, not Gods true Church. The Latin root word is religare as re is a prefix that means return and ligare means to bind. Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ.


John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 the same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 all things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 in him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 and the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

So in fact religion begins after the fall of Adam and Eve. Because religion mean 3000 people or more. So God's people of Israel group are religion and get the name nation. They are 12 tribes, but are 1 nation. So today is the same. The religious people don't get the name nation because they don't have a nation.So God's people who are everywhere in this world, sooner will be a nation, when Jesus returns. They are together forever. And BIBLICAL all people in the world that accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour are God nations. And those true God nation in this world now, is this people: Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12.

 

[for_his_glory]

My friend I told more then twice, I am not a MORMON, Mormon also believed in the false Trinity doctrine. Go and see on Wikipedia who is the foundation of the SDA are and how they have come together. Go on YouTube and see from where the Trinity doctrine has born. Go and study what is a Jesuit and a freemason. For to be a leader for controlling and helping churches, you must have knowledge of all denominations. You must see all news concerning end times sign. Stop fighting against people that can answered all questions BIBLICAL. Stop looking on religion.
This is my religion Revelation 12:17
Revelation 14:6-12. My question who is the person that don't receive the mark of the beast? And 14:13 is my work here.

First I am not a leader nor do I control anything, but have been called of God back in 1998 to teach His word. I've studied all these different things you speak of for around 20 some years now as I want to be prepared to answer others that question these religions. I have written a book and many articles on end times that I use to reference and teach from. What would I fight against anyone as my answers come by the Holy Spirit that teaches me everything God wants me to know and teach others. The topic is not about the mark of the beast, but you can go to the End Times Forum to read what I have written there.

If The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not Mormon, which is only a nickname for the church, then why do they use The Book Of Mormon that Joseph Smith wrote back in the 1800's being the faith's signature scripture to teach out of?

Here is a statement from James White, co-founded of the LDS and husband of Ellen G. Getty-White. "The way spiritualizers have disposed of or denied the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ is first using the old unscriptural Trinitarian creed." (James White, January 24, 1846, The Day Star). No, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints do not believe in the Trinity.

 

[for_his_glory]

Whs
What is religion? Don't Google it!

Don't have to Google this as I learnt this years ago in my studies.


Latin root word for religion is bondage, which is different then that of Gods pure religion of James 1:27, but that of following tradition and the doctrine of a mans church, not Gods true Church. The Latin root word is religare as re is a prefix that means return and ligare means to bind. Religion tells you what you can and cannot do and becomes socially acceptable by mans interpretations, traditions and doctrines. Religion is what nailed Christ to the cross because the Bible is not socially acceptable to society, if it were then Christ would have died in vain. God is not about mans religion, nor does he recognize religion. God is about a personal relationship with you and His son Jesus Christ.

God's pure religion:
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

[for_his_glory]

they have failed to realize that the Holy Spirit is Jesus Himself.

How can Jesus send himself back as being the Holy Spirit after He ascended up to heaven to sit at the right hand of God as that comes against scripture.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

[for_his_glory]

So in fact religion begins after the fall of Adam and Eve. Because religion mean 3000 people or more.

Can you give us your source for this?

 

[Pipiripi]

First I am not a leader nor do I control anything, but have been called of God back in 1998 to teach His word. I've studied all these different things you speak of for around 20 some years now as I want to be prepared to answer others that question these religions. I have written a book and many articles on end times that I use to reference and teach from. What would I fight against anyone as my answers come by the Holy Spirit that teaches me everything God wants me to know and teach others. The topic is not about the mark of the beast, but you can go to the End Times Forum to read what I have written there.

If The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not Mormon, which is only a nickname for the church, then why do they use The Book Of Mormon that Joseph Smith wrote back in the 1800's being the faith's signature scripture to teach out of?

Here is a statement from James White, co-founded of the LDS and husband of Ellen G. Getty-White. "The way spiritualizers have disposed of or denied the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ is first using the old unscriptural Trinitarian creed." (James White, January 24, 1846, The Day Star). No, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints do not believe in the Trinity.

It is just now today like me and you. If a leader of the Roman Catholic Church have studied the Bible, and find from the Bible that the worship of Mary and saints are not in the Bible. They have protested against these doctrine. And so a new denomination has born called Protestant movement. Those people flew away from Europe and landed in America. Don't you know that it is written in the Bible? They has begin spoken as a lamb and now is a wolf. Nobody can preached the three angels messages, why? Because it is about the beast and his mark. God never let's His people in doubt. In Revelation 12 God let the world knows who is His end times church. The question for yourself is: am I one of the person of Revelation 14:12 that will not receive the mark of the beast? My friend I can wrote a 1000 books, but if it isn't in according with the Bible, I will be in trouble with God.
Are you this person Revelation 12:17? I am using only this two evidence, there are many more.