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Drew said:I do not believe that we will enter heaven in these physical bodies, but 1 Cor 15 shows that we will indeed have bodies in heaven - we will not be disembodied "spirits" or "souls". Heaven will be a distinctly physical place.
Drew
Lets take a little bit of a closer look at the scriptures...Pay attention to what Paul is saying here....
1 Cor 15:35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?†36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grainâ€â€perhaps wheat or some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.†The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
One area of unbelief is how in the world are bodies that are 2000, 5000 year old corpses along with some that have been burned and destroyed or have turned back to dust be resurrected...., Paul did not consider these sorts of questions a wise person would ask, as is obvious from his response, How foolish!...He was straight calling some folks fools....
He then goes on to use Nature as his illustration..and in particular seed time and harvest...something they were all familiar with but they could not be completely understood...Yet both were very real. As a plant which sprouted from a seed was directly linked to it but remarkably different from it, so too was the relationship of a natural and a resurrected body.
Paul gooes on to show the differences in fleshly vessels...This is important..
It shows the creativity of Jesus...
The differences in splendor between the earthly bodies and the heavenly bodies suggested to Paul the differences between a natural and a spiritual body ....An earthly natural body is fallen and so is temporal, imperfect, and weak. A heavenly spiritual body will be eternal, perfect, and powerful see 2 Cor. 5:1-4.
Discussion of the contrast between Adam and Jesus is resumed here. Adam exemplified the earthly natural body....Jesus, exemplifies the heavenly spiritual body which those who belong to Him will likewise recieve when he/she gets to heaven....The full harvest will be like the first fruits
First the seed must die; then the spiritual body will emerge.
Now I think it worth taking a look at another scripture....
Philippians 3:17-21
17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. 18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame who set their mind on earthly things. 20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
Christ will transform ''our'' bodies that are prone to disease, sin, are corrupted to a body like ''His glorious body''. Then every child of God will be made like the Son of God (see 1 John 3:2), that is, all Christians will receive glorified bodies like His. Their resurrected bodies will be like Christ’s, and their sanctification will be completed.....
These scriptures completely blow away your and Guibox's monostic positions....
Read these scriptures a few times and Pray and ask the HS to help u understand them....
So for now I will go catch a movie and have some... :