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You can flip that around and replace Christian with Muslim.A question islamist ask:-
One simple question - Adam4d.com
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But the next question i also want us to ponder on as well .A question islamist ask:-
One simple question - Adam4d.com
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Differences Between Muhammad and Jesus | |
Muhammad... | Jesus... |
Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) | Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) |
"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) | "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) |
Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) | "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) |
Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) | "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) |
Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) | "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) |
Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) | Neither owned nor traded slaves. |
Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) | Beheaded no one. |
Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) | Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) |
"If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) | "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) |
Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) | "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) |
Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) | Was celibate. |
Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) | Did not have sex with children. |
Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) | Never harmed a woman. |
"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) | "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) |
Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) | Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. |
Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) | Never took captives. Never killed anyone. |
Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24) | Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. |
Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41) | "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) |
Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) | Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. |
"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) | "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) |
Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) | Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) |
Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) | Washed his disciple’s feet. (John 13:5) |
What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) | What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) |
Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102) | Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) |
Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. | Demanded nothing for himself Died without possessions. |
Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) | Was crucified himself. |
According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) | According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) |
You can flip that around and replace Christian with Muslim.
Islam has the same concept Christianity has about the world persuicuting true belivers.
The issue isn't whether "you" would point the gun, but that there are those that would on both sides. Both sides can also find references in their holy texts to justify it.
It's better to figure out the person you are talking to, instead of relying on wide assumptions.
but the next question i also want us to ponder on as well .
Differences Between Muhammad and Jesus
Muhammad...
Jesus...
Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)
Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)
"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)
"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)
Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)
Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)
Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)
Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
Neither owned nor traded slaves.
Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)
Beheaded no one.
Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)
"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)
"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)
Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)
Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)
Was celibate.
Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Did not have sex with children.
Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
Never harmed a woman.
"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)
"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)
Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )
Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.
Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)
Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.
Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)
Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.
Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)
"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)
Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)
"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)
Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)
Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)
Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)
Washed his disciple’s feet.
(John 13:5)
What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)
What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)
Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)
Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)
Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.
Demanded nothing for himself
Died without possessions.
Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
Was crucified himself.
According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)
According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)
Mohammed's rise to prophet hoodbut the next question i also want us to ponder on as well .
Its true that jihadest would happily kill a christain .
but who is the far greater danger to christanity
the all inclusive religion is and its coming one world govt .
THEY IS GONNA KILL THEM far more christains
in such a short time than ever before .
Rounding them up in the name of their false love god
, false peace , tolerance and unity .
OH ITS COMING . My advice dont conform to it
and be prepared to lose all and die for Jesus . BUT dont conform to the lie .
Just felt led to also remind with this reminder as well .
Not really. It's literally just a comic about being persecuted for being a Christian. On its own its not special because it's a very rare of a situation to begin with.There is a big difference,
There is also issues of boggotry where people seem to be ignorant of how Islam also has many offshoots and denominations similar to Christianity. There are fundamentalist and more liberal forms of Islam.most oppression of muslims is political, like in China or in Russa
Historically it has happened, the big difference is that theocracy are less likely to be Christian because most formally Christian theocracies have embraced more secular principles., religous perscution is happening im Maymer and in India, Christian perscution. I'm not aware of any.
Only if we are talking about theocracies.In comparrison you would be hard pressed to name a muslim country where Christians are not suffering for being Christian.
Can you name these offshoots and denominations so we can research them?There is also issues of boggotry where people seem to be ignorant of how Islam also has many offshoots and denominations similar to Christianity. There are fundamentalist and more liberal forms of Islam.
The muslim religion is deadly and of satan .Mohammed's rise to prophet hood
Mohammad Ibn Abdallah was born in the year 570 AD to the Quraysh Tribe in the city of Mecca. His father died before he was born and his mother Amina died when he was 6 years old (Mohammed To better understand the hate fueling modern day Islamic one must first look back to its roots. From the early days of Islam to today's globally televised beheadings, Muslims are simply acting-out what Mohammed believed, and what the Quran teaches. And when Quranic Law was given the opportunity to govern, its violent, 7th century intolerance was seen through the eyes of Afghanistan's Taliban - a view of converting and uniting the Arab world under Islamic Law by sword first, and everyone else second.
"O ye who believe (Muslims) take not the Jews or the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them." (Surat Al-Maidah 5:51)
"Kill the Mushrikun (polytheists, Christians and non-Muslims), wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But, if they repent and perform As-salat (public prayer with Muslims) and give Zakat (Islamic alms), then leave their way free. Allah is oft-forgiving, most merciful." (Surat At-Taubah 9:5)
Now look what God has already told us:
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Just want to let you know that CF.net is about lifting up and edifying each other with the word of God. When all things are taught of truth that comes from the scriptures and these truths are found in you then you will not believe the false doctrines of devils that are out there. Many will be seduced by the lies of the devil, but if we concentrate more on the works of the Lord, taking the Gospel truths to the world then there will be no excuse for those who would rather believe a lie and be damned for not having any truth found in them.The muslim religion is deadly and of satan .
But so is the buddist religion . And yet i never met a buddist monk
who was not overly kind , always ready to do good for someone .
SO too is the all inclusive religion now led by pope francis
and now deeply rooted within even the protestant realm .
Any love that can deny the teachings of JESUS or the apostels
and yet has all the good works , smiles , hugs , IS STILL of satan .
We better all watch out . Lord willing , SOON i am gonna expose
them all and many might get offended , cause i am gonna list names
and show why they are false .
The most dangerous religion of all , was birthed at the tree .
And the serpent didnt come rebuking and being grave .
He didnt attack eve , HE SEDUCED . May we all be on gaurd .
Because i am telling even you and all , THE MOST DANGEROUS
religoin is already here and amongst us even now . But worry not
I have come to expose it . Even if it gets me banned .
a hint , its all tied into this big common ground , unity stuff . SO WATCH OUT .
Well then lets start by bringing what JOHN wrote .Just want to let you know that CF.net is about lifting up and edifying each other with the word of God. When all things are taught of truth that comes from the scriptures and these truths are found in you then you will not believe the false doctrines of devils that are out there. Many will be seduced by the lies of the devil, but if we concentrate more on the works of the Lord, taking the Gospel truths to the world then there will be no excuse for those who would rather believe a lie and be damned for not having any truth found in them.
I see it as we exposing the truths of the Gospel message than exposing the lies of the devil. We are not here to attack false religions or those who are seduced by it, but to bring the message of the Gospel to them in hopes of their salvation in Christ Jesus.
We have had many Muslims come here as we shared the Gospel with them and they left accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. All things are done according to the leading of the Holy Spirit, not by personal vendettas.Well then lets start by bringing what JOHN wrote .
If any brings not this gospel , dont even let them in your house
do not even bid them god speed .
And ps , i have witnessed in person to a few muslims throughout
the years , and they all found me to be what they would say a very kind man .
Yet i made no bones about pointing to Christ and correcting .
We must do the same .
Did you know that it was the Jewish leaders (Rabi’s) in Jerusalem that persuaded the Romans to crucify Jesus-?Yet i made no bones about pointing to Christ and correcting .
Not off the top of my head saddly.Can you name these offshoots and denominations so we can research them?