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Jesus was Muslim

Jesus birthday is 9-29

Arab’s are a peaceful kind and generous folk. :D :)

Actually,
in many ways, they’re more civilized than we are in the west their crime rate is far lower than the average western city.

I love Arabia and the Arab people and the fascinating Sands of Arabia. I’ve had some very positive and interesting encounters with Mid-Eastern Arab, UAE and Persian peoples.

One proper English speaking Iranian fascinated me such that he spoke proper English? Interesting man, he was tall and dark with a ready smile and helping hand while giving you a piece of friendly advice all the same.
I reckon he spoke and had better command of the English language than I do – myself being from Southern California – ahh, deeeeuuwde.

His brother cut me a big break once – when I was in need and kinda desperate. they really helped me out a lot and I hardly knew them, yet, he stuck his neck out for me?

Never met an Arab Persian or Mid-Eastern person that’s done me wrong personally, to tell you the honest truth.

Not that I can recall anytime at all?

9-11 is Mohammed’s birthday

God bless :D :D

Peace
 
As a matter of fact between 15 and 20% of Palestinians are Christian.
 
Wasn't Islam started about 600 years after Jesus? How could Jesus be Muslim?

Tiyaya - I agree with you. In this forum, there may be many people of other religions reading our posts. If they see flippant, rude attacks against anybody who doesn't agree with us, they are not likely to want to stick around and learn about Jesus.

Can we all sing along...

They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love... :splat:

It IS possible to refute the claims of any fool who tries to claim that Jesus was a Muslim and not be too rude.

However, I do enjoy a good laugh... :D
 
WiLdAtHeArT said:
Wasn't Islam started about 600 years after Jesus? How could Jesus be Muslim?

It IS possible to refute the claims of any fool who tries to claim that Jesus was a Muslim and not be too rude.

However, I do enjoy a good laugh... :D
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Hello WildatHeart,

Your first comment could be viewed as a very rational statement. However, Islam holds it that all Prophets (from Adam to Muhammad) were Muslims.

The word "Muslim" means "Submittor to God" or in Arabic, Allah. And we strongly believe that all Prophets "submitted to God". Even Adam, who in your faith is not considered a "Prophet" is in our faith.

Muslims do not follow the Bible. We follow the Quran. Thus, our traditions and religious rituals differ, but we do have one common tie :D , to pray to God. I ask you to overlook any demeaning comments made by Muslims in the past and ask any questions about Islam if you do have any.

Thanks,
Jayhawk
 
Wow.. After reading a topic like this I'm so much more against the Muslim faith, thank you guys for your views, this helps me as a Christian!!

-Atone
 
Adam the "prophet"

Where in the Quran is Adam spoken about as a prophet?
What did Adam prophesy about?
Did Adam's prophecy come true?

Please quote sura/verse

P.S. Jayhawk/Syed asks that "... you to overlook any demeaning comments made by Muslims in the past ...."
I find many remarks made by a Muslim called Muhammad (your prophet of Islam) to be very demeaning of both Christians and Jews. Should I remove those remarks from his Quran? Do you also "overlook" those demeaning remarks by Muhammad?
 
Gary_Bee said:
Adam the "prophet"

Where in the Quran is Adam spoken about as a prophet?
What did Adam prophesy about?
Did Adam's prophecy come true?

Please quote sura/verse

P.S. Jayhawk/Syed asks that "... you to overlook any demeaning comments made by Muslims in the past ...."
I find many remarks made by a Muslim called Muhammad (your prophet of Islam) to be very demeaning of both Christians and Jews. Should I remove those remarks from his Quran? Do you also "overlook" those demeaning remarks by Muhammad?
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YUSUFALI: Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah did bestow His Grace,- of the posterity of Adam, and of those who We carried (in the Ark) with Noah, and of the posterity of Abraham and Israel of those whom We guided and chose. Whenever the Signs of (Allah) Most Gracious were rehearsed to them, they would fall down in prostrate adoration and in tears.

Gary, I would not mock Prophet Adam. That is a very childish thing to do. In Islam, we hold high regards for messengers of God. We do not speak ill of them like you have spoken ill of Prophet Aaron (saying that he helped in the creation of the calf).

I find many remarks made by a Muslim called Muhammad (your prophet of Islam) to be very demeaning of both Christians and Jews.
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After the things they have done to the Muslims? Like stabbing their own allies (the Muslims) by helping the enemy (Makkans)? Keep on writing your own history book Gary.

Should I remove those remarks from his Quran?
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LOL! I'd like to see you try publish this "Quran" of yours! Go ahead, remove more passages in the Quran, I see a parallel between you and the Jews who covered up passages in the Torah.
 
Was Adam a prophet?

Nice try Jayhawk/Syed.... but why not look at the WHOLE sura in context. You will see that from 19:41, Muhammad talks about those he thought were "prophets". He mentions Abraham (19:41), Isaac and Jacob (19:49), Moses (19:51), Aaron (19:53), Ismail (19:54), Idris/Enoch? (19:56).... and then he concludes his discourse on prophets by saying "Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah did bestow His Grace"

So the questions remain:
(1) Where in the Quran is Adam spoken about as a prophet?
(2) What did Adam prophesy about?
(3) Did Adam's prophecy come true?
 
So did Adam bring a message or not?

Why does the Bible malign the name of men like Aaron and David? Why do you not have respect for them?
 
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 19:58]

Aqa Mahdi Puya says:


After mentioning all the prophets from Adam to Isa and their sincere followers who were obedient and God-fearing and devout worshippers of Allah, it is said that in their posterity there were people who abandoned His worship and followed lusts, except those who have been true believers whose attitude and rewards are described in verses 60 to 63. Verse 32 of al Fatir refers to these believers as those chosen persons who were foremost in good deeds upon whom Allah had bestowed His highest grace.


The word unseen (gayb) in verse 61 suggests that the pleasures of paradise or hardships of hell, mentioned in the Quran, are not like the pleasures and pains of the world. It is a figurative description to give a general idea to man whose senses are not able to perceive the true state of affairs in the life of hereafter. For this very reason the phrase "morning and evening" has been used in relative sense in verse 62, so as to be comprehended by us, as there will be no actual sunset in paradise.
 
Was Adam a prophet?

Teaching Jayhawk/Syed about Muhammad's Quran.....

Was Adam a prophet?

Nice try Jayhawk/Syed.... but why not look at the WHOLE sura in context. You will see that from 19:41, Muhammad talks about those he thought were "prophets". He mentions Abraham (19:41), Isaac and Jacob (19:49), Moses (19:51), Aaron (19:53), Ismail (19:54), Idris/Enoch? (19:56).... and then he concludes his discourse on prophets by saying "Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah did bestow His Grace". (19:58) Note: There is NO mention of Adam in that list.

Then comes the "... Of the posterity of Adam, and of those whom We carried (in the ark) with Noah and of the posterity of Abraham and Israel - of those who We guided and chose." (19:58)

Now IF you want to use this verse as "proof" that Adam was a prophet of Islam, THEN it means that ALL who were carried in the ark are prophets and prophetesses as well!!!

So the questions remain:
(1) Where in the Quran is Adam spoken about as a prophet?
(2) What did Adam prophesy about?
(3) Did Adam's prophecy come true?
 
You're so funny, Steve. The Muslims will believe the world is flat if allah said it was. Their beliefs have nothing to do with reality. The truth and reality agree. Islam and reality to NOT agree.
 
Jesus claimed to be the son of God, thus he wasn't a very good moslem according to the Q'ran!
 
Christ is God (YHWH) incarnate and that, my dear fellow, is why you cannot sway a Christian's faith.
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hey guys,
im not here to cause any trouble, but i would just like to ask, where in the bible Jesus claimes to be god, from his mouth, and where he says worship me

Plus Muslims do believe that Jesus was the Messiah, translated as christ, but the fact that he never claimed to be God proves that he was just a messenger.

also, God has many sons in the bible and all it meant was a righteous servant of God for example in Pslams Chapter 2 verse 7, David says that God declared to him ''You are my son, today i have begotten thee'.

Is this the same as what you say about Jesus as being the only begotten son of God. Or does it merely mean a righteous servant of God.

welcome to comments
 
Qasim786 said:
hey guys, im not here to cause any trouble, but i would just like to ask, where in the bible Jesus claimes to be god, from his mouth, and where he says worship me
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The "I AM" Claims in John's Gospel
James Patrick Holding


http://www.tektonics.org/jesusclaims/iamwhatiam.html



The Divine Claims of Jesus - The "Son of Man" Title
J. P. Holding

http://www.tektonics.org/jesusclaims/sonofman.html





A couple of articles that argue that Jesus did say such things as to imply Deity.
 
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