Joel Osteen, good or bad

[Kathi]

uhm? food and hunger? that implies a digestive system. it implies the need to move bowels and no, its not in heaven
revelation 20
revelation 21
revelation 22

How do you know?Have you been there?How does the above scripture say their will be no digestive system?

 

[Kathi]

I have read up on the chuppa since I have a pic of my grand parents under the chuppa.View attachment 4671

uhm. grandpa spoke it, taught it in the temple. my aunt still speaks it. dad don't. he has forgotten it.many of my cousins speak to each other in Yiddish or Hebrew(rare) on fb.

Were any of your family involved with any of the death camps during World War 2?

 

[jasonc]

How do you know?Have you been there?How does the above scripture say their will be no digestive system?

I said it implies. meaning that the human waste would have to go somewhere. meaning that we have to have oxygen, and lungs, blood and FLESH in heaven!paul is where now? dead and with the lord. does he have a flesh? NO

 

[jasonc]

Were any of your family involved with any of the death camps during World War 2?

no, no cranmans died in the shoah. a cousin of my cousin has family that died in the shoah.

 

[jasonc]

How do you know?Have you been there?How does the above scripture say their will be no digestive system?

Revelation 21 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more;
2 and I, John, saw the holy city -- new Jerusalem -- coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband;
3 and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, `Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them -- their God,
4 and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be any more, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.'
5 And He who is sitting upon the throne said, `Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, `Write, because these words are true and stedfast;'
6 and He said to me, `It hath been done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; I, to him who is thirsting, will give of the fountain of the water of the life freely;
7 he who is overcoming shall inherit all things, and I will be to him -- a God, and he shall be to me -- the son,
8 and to fearful, and unstedfast, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the liars, their part [is] in the lake that is burning with fire and brimstone, which is a second death.'
9 And there came unto me one of the seven messengers, who have the seven vials that are full of the seven last plagues, and he spake with me, saying, `Come, I will shew thee the bride of the Lamb -- the wife,'
10 and he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and did shew to me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, coming down out of the heaven from God,
11 having the glory of God, and her light [is] like a stone most precious, as a jasper stone clear as crystal,
12 having also a wall great and high, having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve messengers, and names written thereon, which are [those] of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel,
13 at the east three gates, at the north three gates, at the south three gates, at the west three gates;
14 and the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he who is speaking with me had a golden reed, that he may measure the city, and its gates, and its wall;
16 and the city lieth square, and the length of it is as great as the breadth; and he did measure the city with the reed -- furlongs twelve thousand; the length, and the breadth, and the height, of it are equal;
17 and he measured its wall, an hundred forty-four cubits, the measure of a man, that is, of the messenger;
18 and the building of its wall was jasper, and the city [is] pure gold -- like to pure glass;
19 and the foundations of the wall of the city with every precious stone have been adorned; the first foundation jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald;
20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprasus; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates [are] twelve pearls, each several one of the gates was of one pearl; and the broad-place of the city [is] pure gold -- as transparent glass.
22 And a sanctuary I did not see in it, for the Lord God, the Almighty, is its sanctuary, and the Lamb,
23 and the city hath no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they may shine in it; for the glory of God did lighten it, and the lamp of it [is] the Lamb;
24 and the nations of the saved in its light shall walk, and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it,
25 and its gates shall not at all be shut by day, for night shall not be there;
26 and they shall bring the glory and the honour of the nations into it;
27 and there may not at all enter into it any thing defiling and doing abomination, and a lie, but -- those written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb

young's literal translation.
uhm and that city is going where? to the...EARTH!

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

How do you know?Have you been there?How does the above scripture say their will be no digestive system?

I think we are led to believe that there is no place for human waste in heaven.
Therefore, the consumption of this fruit does not produce waste.
Now, if your looking for some apple pie, you might have to go outside the gates to get it.
But then, will you be able to get back in?
Let's ask Joel.

 

[jasonc]

I think we are led to believe that there is no place for human waste in heaven.
Therefore, the consumption of this fruit does not produce waste.
Now, if your looking for some apple pie, you might have to go outside the gates to get it.
But then, will you be able to get back in?
Let's ask Joel.

lol.

 

[Kathi]

It is all speculation.Since none of us have been to heaven we do not know.

 

[Edward]

Sounds like Joel preaching.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[Edward]

uhm? food and hunger? that implies a digestive system. it implies the need to move bowels and no, its not in heaven
revelation 20
revelation 21
revelation 22

Another thing to consider is...will our spiritual bodies be 100% efficient? The food will be the best with no adulterants, and our bodies may absorb the food 100% with no waste matter. This is a possibility, though speculative.

 

[Kathi]

Another thing to consider is...will our spiritual bodies be 100% efficient? The food will be the best with no adulterants, and our bodies may absorb the food 100% with no waste matter. This is a possibility, though speculative.

We should leave all of that to our Lord.Everything will be perfect.How could it be otherwise?

 

[Edward]

Right, well said. it is interesting to think about though, well, the food I mean, lol.
I have actually been eating a chocolate bar before and wondered if there will be chocolate in heaven. And peanut butter! mmm

It will be perfect, i know it. how could it be otherwise? Oh, you said that, lol.

 

[Kathi]

I am thinking their will be tastes and foods we have not experienced.It will all be perfect.

 

[Edward]

I am thinking their will be tastes and foods we have not experienced.It will all be perfect.

I've thought the same thing before. Oh, I bet the food there is wonderful! I bet there is fruit there that we can not even imagine. I love fruit.

 

[Edward]

I have read up on the chuppa since I have a pic of my grand parents under the chuppa.View attachment 4671

uhm. grandpa spoke it, taught it in the temple. my aunt still speaks it. dad don't. he has forgotten it.many of my cousins speak to each other in Yiddish or Hebrew(rare) on fb.

That's a really good picture jason. i like it.

 

[Free]

 

[Edward]

Sorry. I'm typing too fast today.

Anyway, back on topic. I am unfamiliar with Joels message. Does he preach the Gospel (aside from his prosperity teachings)?

 

[Eugene]

They are also the ones who are not preaching the true word of God.

Dear Sister Kathi, even though the following context pertained to the will of others to afflict Paul, he said in Php 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will.

But then he says in Php 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

If Paul could issue such a graceful truth to having the name of Jesus going forth, hopefully those hearing even false doctrines in some cases will turn to Christ, and God being the author and finisher of our faith will add the truth we need to come to maturity of our faith.

 

[Kathi]

Dear Sister Kathi, even though the following context pertained to the will of others to afflict Paul, he said in Php 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will.

But then he says in Php 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

If Paul could issue such a graceful truth to having the name of Jesus going forth, hopefully those hearing even false doctrines in some cases will turn to Christ, and God being the author and finisher of our faith will add the truth we need to come to maturity of our faith.

We will have to agree to disagree.I do not think anyone who proclaims to teach the Word of God should be a false teacher.They should only preach the true word of God.

 

[Kathi]