Kundalini Warning To The Church Of Jesus Christ....True or False.

[Willie T]

Just this Thanksgiving, my wife had to walk away from a conversation with one of her cousins who was talking trash about my best friend and how he wasn't really a Christian. (Long story)

 

[jasonc]

Just this Thanksgiving, my wife had to walk away from a conversation with one of her cousins who was talking trash about my best friend and how he wasn't really a Christian. (Long story)

not that I haven't done that, but yeah I can see why.

 

[Brother Mike]

ok, im not a fan of Copeland for sure, but well I don't believe in taking psalms out of context. do we do torah as Christians. the full chapter talks about doing wrong and what happens.

ye are gods but ye shall die like men. that is too the sandedrin and priests only as they were in such a place to judge and to teach.

psalm 82

We Will judge angels. The whole context is they accused Jesus as making himself out as the son of God, making him a God by relationship. They did care for that.

Jesus said you are also God's just like me, you hypocrites.

God stands in the congregation of God's and judges the God's. You have oppressed the poor and die like men. You shall fall like one of the (prince's-Satan)

All that is saying is man created like God, should not take up the nature of a beast or Satan. We are judged on the same level as God's equal, which makes the standards very high at judgement time. So man is not judged as a frail flesh creature, but by the nature in which he was created.

That is what Jesus was reminding them about, and it did not make them happy. Not much else to read into that.

 

[jasonc]

We Will judge angels. The whole context is they accused Jesus as making himself out as the son of God, making him a God by relationship. They did care for that.

Jesus said you are also God's just like me, you hypocrites.

God stands in the congregation of God's and judges the God's. You have oppressed the poor and die like men. You shall fall like one of the (prince's-Satan)

All that is saying is man created like God, should not take up the nature of a beast or Satan. We are judged on the same level as God's equal, which makes the standards very high at judgement time. So man is not judged as a frail flesh creature, but by the nature in which he was created.

That is what Jesus was reminding them about, and it did not make them happy. Not much else to read into that.

that isn't what the bible says.
we aren't judged as gods equal.
we are judge for failing to do what he commanded.

can I create a planet. create life? no I cant. making a baby isn't creating life from nothing or dirt and giving it life from my breathe.

I quoted psalms 82, not the part where jesus said what he said , and if you notice what the torah was commanding jesus never broke it. he cared for the poor, proclaimed justice and gave out mercy.

 

[turnorburn]

There is danger surrounding the Kundalini spirit, this i think was Choppers intention when he created this thread.. These are the words of a how would you say it, a Kundaliniest?

Kundalini IS the Holy Spirit in my opinion. It IS the Holy Ghost and it IS the Fire Of Christ and the Fire of God. It is all of these things. Whether or not that can fit into the current thinking of Christianity is not the point.

Most Christians do not believe that they are Gods and can do the miracles of Christ and more either. So it is as it is at this time for those precious people. In Gods good time will they come into an understanding and an experience of the Holy Spirit as is described upon the body by the Kundalini.

Kundalini is our overt and conscious interwoven communication and interaction with the absolute. The exaltation of the flesh through spiritual evolution. We swim in the divine current rather than blindly walk through its puddles.

http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/kundalini-holy-spirit.html

tob

 

[Brother Mike]

that isn't what the bible says.
we aren't judged as gods equal.
we are judge for failing to do what he commanded.

can I create a planet. create life? no I cant. making a baby isn't creating life from nothing or dirt and giving it life from my breathe.

I quoted psalms 82, not the part where jesus said what he said , and if you notice what the torah was commanding jesus never broke it. he cared for the poor, proclaimed justice and gave out mercy.

Sigh....... If you say so. Sorry for quoting you in the first place. Right, we are not God with mighty powers, amazing.

 

[jasonc]

Sigh....... If you say so. Sorry for quoting you in the first place. Right, we are not God with mighty powers, amazing.

ok, so if god can do it, then you are saying we can.

where is in the bible that we can make life from nothing, create words. how about this? we are used by god in a reward from in the judgement to minister out his laws of justice? that means we aren't his equals and are under his authority. an equal to god implies that we have his nature. we don't and wont get that fully. adam was sinless and is called the son of god. yet he didn't have the power to make words. we have to look at what the bible does say.

what you post almost sound Mormon like

 

[Brother Mike]

ok, so if god can do it, then you are saying we can.

where is in the bible that we can make life from nothing, create words. how about this? we are used by god in a reward from in the judgement to minister out his laws of justice? that means we aren't his equals and are under his authority. an equal to god implies that we have his nature. we don't and wont get that fully. adam was sinless and is called the son of god. yet he didn't have the power to make words. we have to look at what the bible does say.

what you post almost sound Mormon like

Sorry for getting frustrated. You sounded like the rest of the reliegious confused folks I have run into through the years. You brought up the power of God thing, making planets, grow grass, crash mountains, create life. When I mentioned the little gods thing.

I was hoping for better, and a higher level of discussion, I come to the forums just to talk and discuss things. That is why I very seldom start threads and teach.

Lets look at the bible. I'll have patience.

Jesus said be perfect as your father is perfect.
You can't do that if your less in nature than He is.

Theos, "God" in Greek is a deity of uncertain origin. Deity just means immortal being which we are, and why the term is used for Satan, False gods in the OT and Jesus called us Gods.

The term God does not denote power, you need the title in front of that.

God the Father, the Lord God, would be titles

Paul said there are many lords and gods in heaven and earth, but we only take heed to two. God the Father, and the Lord Jesus christ.

There is only one Creator, of all things, One son by whom all things were created for. Paul's words.

Any other god by nature is not creator, or the father. Just made like the father, or has attributes of the father. Satan being created servant was also given the title god.

Each seed produces after it's own kind, spiritual law, God said it, so it must be so. We are born out of the incorruptible seed of the Word of God. The word was with God, the Word was God, God the word the same.

We are called God's offspring in Acts, told we are made in his image, and simlitude (Gen, James)

God is not like us, we are exactly like him, created like him. We carry all the emotions, and thoughts God displayed all through the bible. Even humor.

Man is the only being created like the Father to fellowship with him on his level. No other angel or animal shares that same exact likeness.

Monekys produce monkeys, and dogs, dogs................ What do you call God's offspring then?

gods

Paul said let this same mind be in you that was in Jesus christ. That Jesus thought it not be robbery to be equal with God.

How can we be equal with God?

Be perfect like your father in heaven is perfect. We take on the nature by which we are from.

For Jesus thought not to take the form of god, but humbled himself as a man. We are to do the same thing, just like our Father in heaven is humble and loves to bless people.

NOTHING IN THERE AboUT POWER!!!!

That is the trigger word with folks that have no clue who they are, a child of God, born of God, from the word of God.

god does not mean we can create planets, it's a nature of something.

We are judged by the nature we were created on that level.

So when they went to go pick up stones to blast Jesus for saying he is the son of God, making himself out to be God, He quoted Psalm 82 and said, ye are also gods, just like me, and you won't escape judgement being judged on that level.

If it don't make sense, then not much else I can do about it. Your not some cut above some monkey. You are exactly like the father in Heaven, by which we don't curse men made exactly like God (James)

John said it does not appear what we shall be, but we shall be just like Jesus at his appearing. You don't get more God than that, the Son of God.

I would ditch the reliegion, wash it out. It just hinders us.

When I speak to a devil, I know it's backed by the family of Heaven, my father, the creator, and the Power of His Holy Spirit. I speak as a hire, a son that no disobedient servant shall hinder me. There are different levels of faith, and Jesus walked in the things He did because He understood who he was. We need to come up, this World needs help.

Rom 8:19 BBE For the strong desire of every living thing is waiting for the revelation of the sons of God.

Sons of God, not half a cut above a monkey.

Blessings.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Sorry for getting frustrated. You sounded like the rest of the reliegious confused folks I have run into through the years. You brought up the power of God thing, making planets, grow grass, crash mountains, create life. When I mentioned the little gods thing.

I was hoping for better, and a higher level of discussion, I come to the forums just to talk and discuss things. That is why I very seldom start threads and teach.

Lets look at the bible. I'll have patience.

Jesus said be perfect as your father is perfect.
You can't do that if your less in nature than He is.

Theos, "God" in Greek is a deity of uncertain origin. Deity just means immortal being which we are, and why the term is used for Satan, False gods in the OT and Jesus called us Gods.

The term God does not denote power, you need the title in front of that.

God the Father, the Lord God, would be titles

Paul said there are many lords and gods in heaven and earth, but we only take heed to two. God the Father, and the Lord Jesus christ.

There is only one Creator, of all things, One son by whom all things were created for. Paul's words.

Any other god by nature is not creator, or the father. Just made like the father, or has attributes of the father. Satan being created servant was also given the title god.

Each seed produces after it's own kind, spiritual law, God said it, so it must be so. We are born out of the incorruptible seed of the Word of God. The word was with God, the Word was God, God the word the same.

We are called God's offspring in Acts, told we are made in his image, and simlitude (Gen, James)

God is not like us, we are exactly like him, created like him. We carry all the emotions, and thoughts God displayed all through the bible. Even humor.

Man is the only being created like the Father to fellowship with him on his level. No other angel or animal shares that same exact likeness.

Monekys produce monkeys, and dogs, dogs................ What do you call God's offspring then?

gods

Paul said let this same mind be in you that was in Jesus christ. That Jesus thought it not be robbery to be equal with God.

How can we be equal with God?

Be perfect like your father in heaven is perfect. We take on the nature by which we are from.

For Jesus thought not to take the form of god, but humbled himself as a man. We are to do the same thing, just like our Father in heaven is humble and loves to bless people.

NOTHING IN THERE AboUT POWER!!!!

That is the trigger word with folks that have no clue who they are, a child of God, born of God, from the word of God.

god does not mean we can create planets, it's a nature of something.

We are judged by the nature we were created on that level.

So when they went to go pick up stones to blast Jesus for saying he is the son of God, making himself out to be God, He quoted Psalm 82 and said, ye are also gods, just like me, and you won't escape judgement being judged on that level.

If it don't make sense, then not much else I can do about it. Your not some cut above some monkey. You are exactly like the father in Heaven, by which we don't curse men made exactly like God (James)

John said it does not appear what we shall be, but we shall be just like Jesus at his appearing. You don't get more God than that, the Son of God.

I would ditch the reliegion, wash it out. It just hinders us.

When I speak to a devil, I know it's backed by the family of Heaven, my father, the creator, and the Power of His Holy Spirit. I speak as a hire, a son that no disobedient servant shall hinder me. There are different levels of faith, and Jesus walked in the things He did because He understood who he was. We need to come up, this World needs help.

Rom 8:19 BBE For the strong desire of every living thing is waiting for the revelation of the sons of God.

Sons of God, not half a cut above a monkey.

Blessings.

Not so good a post Mike.
You quote some things and leave a whole lot out.
I have to do your homework before I can piece together what you are saying.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Sorry for getting frustrated. You sounded like the rest of the reliegious confused folks I have run into through the years. You brought up the power of God thing, making planets, grow grass, crash mountains, create life. When I mentioned the little gods thing.

I was hoping for better, and a higher level of discussion, I come to the forums just to talk and discuss things. That is why I very seldom start threads and teach.

Lets look at the bible. I'll have patience.

Jesus said be perfect as your father is perfect.
You can't do that if your less in nature than He is.

Theos, "God" in Greek is a deity of uncertain origin. Deity just means immortal being which we are, and why the term is used for Satan, False gods in the OT and Jesus called us Gods.

The term God does not denote power, you need the title in front of that.

God the Father, the Lord God, would be titles

Paul said there are many lords and gods in heaven and earth, but we only take heed to two. God the Father, and the Lord Jesus christ.

There is only one Creator, of all things, One son by whom all things were created for. Paul's words.

Any other god by nature is not creator, or the father. Just made like the father, or has attributes of the father. Satan being created servant was also given the title god.

Each seed produces after it's own kind, spiritual law, God said it, so it must be so. We are born out of the incorruptible seed of the Word of God. The word was with God, the Word was God, God the word the same.

We are called God's offspring in Acts, told we are made in his image, and simlitude (Gen, James)

God is not like us, we are exactly like him, created like him. We carry all the emotions, and thoughts God displayed all through the bible. Even humor.

Man is the only being created like the Father to fellowship with him on his level. No other angel or animal shares that same exact likeness.

Monekys produce monkeys, and dogs, dogs................ What do you call God's offspring then?

gods

Paul said let this same mind be in you that was in Jesus christ. That Jesus thought it not be robbery to be equal with God.

How can we be equal with God?

Be perfect like your father in heaven is perfect. We take on the nature by which we are from.

For Jesus thought not to take the form of god, but humbled himself as a man. We are to do the same thing, just like our Father in heaven is humble and loves to bless people.

NOTHING IN THERE AboUT POWER!!!!

That is the trigger word with folks that have no clue who they are, a child of God, born of God, from the word of God.

god does not mean we can create planets, it's a nature of something.

We are judged by the nature we were created on that level.

So when they went to go pick up stones to blast Jesus for saying he is the son of God, making himself out to be God, He quoted Psalm 82 and said, ye are also gods, just like me, and you won't escape judgement being judged on that level.

If it don't make sense, then not much else I can do about it. Your not some cut above some monkey. You are exactly like the father in Heaven, by which we don't curse men made exactly like God (James)

John said it does not appear what we shall be, but we shall be just like Jesus at his appearing. You don't get more God than that, the Son of God.

I would ditch the reliegion, wash it out. It just hinders us.

When I speak to a devil, I know it's backed by the family of Heaven, my father, the creator, and the Power of His Holy Spirit. I speak as a hire, a son that no disobedient servant shall hinder me. There are different levels of faith, and Jesus walked in the things He did because He understood who he was. We need to come up, this World needs help.

Rom 8:19 BBE For the strong desire of every living thing is waiting for the revelation of the sons of God.

Sons of God, not half a cut above a monkey.

Blessings.

You say we are exactly like God, but God says; Isaiah 46:9; "I am God, there is none like me".
No, we are not exactly like God.
In Genesis 3:4-5, the serpent says "you will be like God".
The great lie.

When you overlook sound Scripture, it is easy to make other things fit your beliefs.

 

[Sinthesis]

We are gods in the sense that we can create order out of chaos. This is a type of creative power, but tainted through original sin so that our patterns always fall short of truly divine perfection, which is beyond our reach as created beings.

 

[smaller]

I will admit that this video is has a big impact to different people. My purpose in showing it is to find out your opinion. Is this so called "Blessing" of God, or of the dark world of Satan. I want your honest opinion. not a place to insult each other.

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The practices are undoubtedly encouraging the entrance of evil entities into the practitioners in fuller form.

I've witnessed this type of activity in the charismatic sector for many many decades now.

The space if full of bad acting liars. Takes about a minute to figure it out. Maybe less.

 

[Brother Mike]

You say we are exactly like God, but God says; Isaiah 46:9; "I am God, there is none like me".
No, we are not exactly like God.
In Genesis 3:4-5, the serpent says "you will be like God".
The great lie.

When you overlook sound Scripture, it is easy to make other things fit your beliefs.

Adam was already like God. He created us like himself. Satan wanted what Adam was. The tree did not have power to make Adam like God. Satan knew that. It was the tree the imparted knowledge of calamity.

If you know me, you know I don't overlook scripture. If you read above, I quoted what Paul said about the same subject. There be many God's, many Lord's but to us there are two.
Paul is using theos as it was understood, without the religious nonsense that we add to it. We are immortal beings created like God.

Even Jesus was not confused who the creator is, my father is greater than I.
But, Jesus being the son of God, is no less God than the father, was .called God 3 times, even once God by his father, and John said we don't know what we are, but we will be just like him at his appearing. You don't get more God like than that, whatever that is.

Not the creator, or the father, but like him.

Just because your human does not give you all authority others have and all the abilities. Still human though.
Theos just means immortal being, deity. That is all it denotes.

Reading your other post, I expected a bit better than this.

 

[Chopper]

You do realize that people who have not experienced those strange-to-them things you just mentioned that you have done, are just as convinced you are way off base, as you are convinced others who have experienced more of The Holy Spirit than you have, are.

Yes Willie I do understand. What I reject is the confusion and out of control these people tend to be. There must be IMO order and self/Spirit control. In all my experiences I was aware of my actions. They were from the Holy Spirit and I was in control of my actions.

 

[Brother Mike]

We are gods in the sense that we can create order out of chaos. This is a type of creative power, but tainted through original sin so that our patterns always fall short of truly divine perfection, which is beyond our reach as created beings.

That is good. Like the father, but not the father. How can one here know what they are and who they were created like and others have no idea what they are or what pattern they were made?

 

[jasonc]

Sorry for getting frustrated. You sounded like the rest of the reliegious confused folks I have run into through the years. You brought up the power of God thing, making planets, grow grass, crash mountains, create life. When I mentioned the little gods thing.

I was hoping for better, and a higher level of discussion, I come to the forums just to talk and discuss things. That is why I very seldom start threads and teach.

Lets look at the bible. I'll have patience.

Jesus said be perfect as your father is perfect.
You can't do that if your less in nature than He is.

Theos, "God" in Greek is a deity of uncertain origin. Deity just means immortal being which we are, and why the term is used for Satan, False gods in the OT and Jesus called us Gods.

The term God does not denote power, you need the title in front of that.

God the Father, the Lord God, would be titles

Paul said there are many lords and gods in heaven and earth, but we only take heed to two. God the Father, and the Lord Jesus christ.

There is only one Creator, of all things, One son by whom all things were created for. Paul's words.

Any other god by nature is not creator, or the father. Just made like the father, or has attributes of the father. Satan being created servant was also given the title god.

Each seed produces after it's own kind, spiritual law, God said it, so it must be so. We are born out of the incorruptible seed of the Word of God. The word was with God, the Word was God, God the word the same.

We are called God's offspring in Acts, told we are made in his image, and simlitude (Gen, James)

God is not like us, we are exactly like him, created like him. We carry all the emotions, and thoughts God displayed all through the bible. Even humor.

Man is the only being created like the Father to fellowship with him on his level. No other angel or animal shares that same exact likeness.

Monekys produce monkeys, and dogs, dogs................ What do you call God's offspring then?

gods

Paul said let this same mind be in you that was in Jesus christ. That Jesus thought it not be robbery to be equal with God.

How can we be equal with God?

Be perfect like your father in heaven is perfect. We take on the nature by which we are from.

For Jesus thought not to take the form of god, but humbled himself as a man. We are to do the same thing, just like our Father in heaven is humble and loves to bless people.

NOTHING IN THERE AboUT POWER!!!!

That is the trigger word with folks that have no clue who they are, a child of God, born of God, from the word of God.

god does not mean we can create planets, it's a nature of something.

We are judged by the nature we were created on that level.

So when they went to go pick up stones to blast Jesus for saying he is the son of God, making himself out to be God, He quoted Psalm 82 and said, ye are also gods, just like me, and you won't escape judgement being judged on that level.

If it don't make sense, then not much else I can do about it. Your not some cut above some monkey. You are exactly like the father in Heaven, by which we don't curse men made exactly like God (James)

John said it does not appear what we shall be, but we shall be just like Jesus at his appearing. You don't get more God than that, the Son of God.

I would ditch the reliegion, wash it out. It just hinders us.

When I speak to a devil, I know it's backed by the family of Heaven, my father, the creator, and the Power of His Holy Spirit. I speak as a hire, a son that no disobedient servant shall hinder me. There are different levels of faith, and Jesus walked in the things He did because He understood who he was. We need to come up, this World needs help.

Rom 8:19 BBE For the strong desire of every living thing is waiting for the revelation of the sons of God.

Sons of God, not half a cut above a monkey.

Blessings.

uhm where the WORD GOD is to be found is either a reference unless context says otherwise to the LORD and his Names. be it the YHWH or the ELOHIM or other names.

the rest is simple torah and what it was to be used for.where I disagree with is that its taught that we command sickness to go away, sometimes god wants us to die from that or wont heal us and allows us to be used in that pain for his glory. that is also what im getting at. im not a theistic evolutionist. im a yecer. o asl could go into the jewish thinking on that. but I wont.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Adam was already like God. He created us like himself. Satan wanted what Adam was. The tree did not have power to make Adam like God. Satan knew that. It was the tree the imparted knowledge of calamity.

If you know me, you know I don't overlook scripture. If you read above, I quoted what Paul said about the same subject. There be many God's, many Lord's but to us there are two.
Paul is using theos as it was understood, without the religious nonsense that we add to it. We are immortal beings created like God.

Even Jesus was not confused who the creator is, my father is greater than I.
But, Jesus being the son of God, is no less God than the father, was .called God 3 times, even once God by his father, and John said we don't know what we are, but we will be just like him at his appearing. You don't get more God like than that, whatever that is.

Not the creator, or the father, but like him.

Just because your human does not give you all authority others have and all the abilities. Still human though.
Theos just means immortal being, deity. That is all it denotes.

Reading your other post, I expected a bit better than this.

Why does every post someone makes that opposes you always include personal insults?
Go back over this thread and you'll see what I mean.
When you talk this way, it does nothing to get people to agree with you.

 

[jasonc]

We are gods in the sense that we can create order out of chaos. This is a type of creative power, but tainted through original sin so that our patterns always fall short of truly divine perfection, which is beyond our reach as created beings.

of course, that is what the torah would say and does say.

 

[Brother Mike]

Why does every post someone makes that opposes you always include personal insults?
Go back over this thread and you'll see what I mean.
When you talk this way, it does nothing to get people to agree with you.

Sorry, I sort of come here to discuss things with folks in the know, my escape. I often get misunderstood because folks don't consider I am taking all the othe scripture into account and most likely mentioned the same exact things on other threades on this forum

When I say something, I am also keeping in mind the rest of the scriptures. Every scripture must match and not contradict.



So If I say we are little gods, like the father, I am keeping in mind we are not the creator, not near as wise, smart and as powerful as our Father. I am also reading Theos, (God) as it was understood, not with the super power Marvel comic understanding of god.

So, when I say by nature we are gods, I am not throwing make believe into it produced by our modern society of what people think God means. I am using it as Paul used it, as even a disobedient angle was given the title of "god of this world"

So, I get frustrated when I just assume everyone should at least take a bit of time to examine all the scriptures before thinking I said something I did not.

My fault, don't take it personal.

I am just quoting John and Paul. John said we will be exactly like Jesus (Not the Father) but that is still god, we just don't know exactly what that is as John said.

I just don't like the "Reliegious" reaction when someone says we are gods, because it's the same stuff over and over but by someone different.

Sorry if I offended you. I do need to watch getting an attitude.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Sorry, I sort of come here to discuss things with folks in the know, my escape. I often get misunderstood because folks don't consider I am taking all the othe scripture into account and most likely mentioned the same exact things on other threades on this forum

When I say something, I am also keeping in mind the rest of the scriptures. Every scripture must match and not contradict.



So If I say we are little gods, like the father, I am keeping in mind we are not the creator, not near as wise, smart and as powerful as our Father. I am also reading Theos, (God) as it was understood, not with the super power Marvel comic understanding of god.

So, when I say by nature we are gods, I am not throwing make believe into it produced by our modern society of what people think God means. I am using it as Paul used it, as even a disobedient angle was given the title of "god of this world"

So, I get frustrated when I just assume everyone should at least take a bit of time to examine all the scriptures before thinking I said something I did not.

My fault, don't take it personal.

I am just quoting John and Paul. John said we will be exactly like Jesus (Not the Father) but that is still god, we just don't know exactly what that is as John said.

I just don't like the "Reliegious" reaction when someone says we are gods, because it's the same stuff over and over but by someone different.

Sorry if I offended you. I do need to watch getting an attitude.

Thank you.
I find that most people have no idea how to interpret little gods and I still have problems with it.
Other people have problems with it because there are a lot of opinions on how to interpret.
I really would like you to quote passages when you quote someone.