Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

looking for daniel

Amazing JLG. Great work. Daniel is such an amazing man having lived an amazing life. What a testimony.

- My answer:

- Yes and think about his prayer for the restoration of Jerusalem despite the mountain of sins committed by the Jews and Israel!

- I can't take it away from my mind!
 
Stunning prophecy falling true with Israel and her people. A key trigger for events to move forward. The same fate has consumed(even obsessed) me. How exciting can it get. Mind blowing. Can it really be happening ?! How can the world not wake up to these revelations ?God certainly communicated thru Daniel. He led an amazing life. Thank you Lord for waking me up. Thanks for this fine outline JLG.
 
- My answer:

- Happy you like it !

- Yes to reach such a relationship to God is just incredible !

- Such as in the case of Job and Samuel and Moses and Abraham and others!

- Yes, the same happened to manking with the flood !

- And Israel got into trouble so many times before being rejected !

- And think that just before the second destruction of Jerusalem Jesus was sent to give a last opportunity to Israel !

- But the majority didn’t care !

- And the same will happen to humanity !

- And we must not only wake up but also keep staying awake to prepare for the coming cataclysm !
 
The impressive part is that such a 'tiny sun parched country' has reached such a high level of success, power and influence. As if God is mimicking his theme that the humble and meek and weak and sickly will inherit The Kingdom of God. Ever since 1948 superior forces(bullies) have fallen at Israel's door(s) with little effort, imagine the much larger future attacks on Israel failing. Israel even continues to befuddle and aggravate the UN at will right in front of the entire world. HEY PEOPLE, MIRACLES ARE HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES ! Let those that have eyes see and those w....hear.
 
- Ok notice that Israel has been at war since its creation in 1948!

- If you take the book of Judges, when Israel used to follow God from time to time because of the savior sent by God, they would have peace for a while!

- Judges 2:18-22
 
Judges 2:18

Hebrew
Whenever
וְכִֽי־ (wə·ḵî-)
Conjunctive waw | Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

the LORD
יְהוָ֥ה ׀ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

raised up
הֵקִ֨ים (hê·qîm)
Verb - Hifil - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 6965: To arise, stand up, stand

a judge
שֹֽׁפְטִים֒ (šō·p̄ə·ṭîm)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural
Strong's 8199: To judge, pronounce sentence, to vindicate, punish, to govern, to litigate

for the Israelites,
לָהֶם֮ (lā·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew

[He]
יְהוָה֙ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

was
וְהָיָ֤ה (wə·hā·yāh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

with
עִם־ (‘im-)
Preposition
Strong's 5973: With, equally with

that judge
הַשֹּׁפֵ֔ט (haš·šō·p̄êṭ)
Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 8199: To judge, pronounce sentence, to vindicate, punish, to govern, to litigate

and delivered them
וְהֽוֹשִׁיעָם֙ (wə·hō·wō·šî·‘ām)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular | third person masculine plural
Strong's 3467: To be open, wide, free, to be safe, to free, succor

from the hands
מִיַּ֣ד (mî·yaḏ)
Preposition-m | Noun - feminine singular construct
Strong's 3027: A hand

of their enemies
אֹֽיְבֵיהֶ֔ם (’ō·yə·ḇê·hem)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 341: Hating, an adversary

while the judge
הַשּׁוֹפֵ֑ט (haš·šō·w·p̄êṭ)
Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 8199: To judge, pronounce sentence, to vindicate, punish, to govern, to litigate

was still alive;
כֹּ֖ל (kōl)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3605: The whole, all, any, every

for the LORD
יְהוָה֙ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

was moved to pity
יִנָּחֵ֤ם (yin·nā·ḥêm)
Verb - Nifal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 5162: To sigh, breathe strongly, to be sorry, to pity, console, rue, to avenge

by their groaning
מִנַּֽאֲקָתָ֔ם (min·na·’ă·qā·ṯām)
Preposition-m | Noun - feminine singular construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 5009: A groan, groaning

under those
מִפְּנֵ֥י (mip·pə·nê)
Preposition-m | Noun - common plural construct
Strong's 6440: The face

who oppressed
לֹחֲצֵיהֶ֖ם (lō·ḥă·ṣê·hem)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 3905: To squeeze, press, oppress

and afflicted them.
וְדֹחֲקֵיהֶֽם׃ (wə·ḏō·ḥă·qê·hem)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 1766: To thrust, crowd, oppress



____________________________________________________________________

Judges 2:19

Hebrew
But when
וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ (wə·hā·yāh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

the judge
הַשּׁוֹפֵ֗ט (haš·šō·w·p̄êṭ)
Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 8199: To judge, pronounce sentence, to vindicate, punish, to govern, to litigate

died,
בְּמ֣וֹת (bə·mō·wṯ)
Preposition-b | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 4191: To die, to kill

the Israelites became even more corrupt
וְהִשְׁחִ֣יתוּ (wə·hiš·ḥî·ṯū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 7843: Perhaps to go to ruin

than their fathers,
מֵֽאֲבוֹתָ֔ם (mê·’ă·ḇō·w·ṯām)
Preposition-m | Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 1: Father

going
לָלֶ֗כֶת (lā·le·ḵeṯ)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 1980: To go, come, walk

after
אַֽחֲרֵי֙ (’a·ḥă·rê)
Preposition
Strong's 310: The hind or following part

other
אֲחֵרִ֔ים (’ă·ḥê·rîm)
Adjective - masculine plural
Strong's 312: Hinder, next, other

gods
אֱלֹהִ֣ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

to serve them
לְעָבְדָ֖ם (lə·‘ā·ḇə·ḏām)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 5647: To work, to serve, till, enslave

and bow down
וּלְהִשְׁתַּחֲוֺ֣ת (ū·lə·hiš·ta·ḥă·wōṯ)
Conjunctive waw, Preposition-l | Verb - Hitpael - Infinitive construct
Strong's 7812: To depress, prostrate

to them.
לָהֶ֑ם (lā·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew

They would not
לֹ֤א (lō)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

turn
הִפִּ֙ילוּ֙ (hip·pî·lū)
Verb - Hifil - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 5307: To fall, lie

from their evil practices
מִמַּ֣עַלְלֵיהֶ֔ם (mim·ma·‘al·lê·hem)
Preposition-m | Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 4611: A deed, practice

and stubborn
הַקָּשָֽׁה׃ (haq·qā·šāh)
Article | Adjective - feminine singular
Strong's 7186: Hard, severe

ways.
וּמִדַּרְכָּ֖ם (ū·mid·dar·kām)
Conjunctive waw, Preposition-m | Noun - common singular construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 1870: A road, a course of life, mode of action
 
Hebrew
So the anger
אַ֥ף (’ap̄)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 639: The nose, nostril, the face, a person, ire

of the LORD
יְהוָ֖ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

burned
וַיִּֽחַר־ (way·yi·ḥar-)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 2734: To glow, grow warm, to blaze up, of anger, zeal, jealousy

against Israel,
בְּיִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל (bə·yiś·rā·’êl)
Preposition-b | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3478: Israel -- 'God strives', another name of Jacob and his desc

and He said,
וַיֹּ֗אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“Because
יַעַן֩ (ya·‘an)
Adverb
Strong's 3282: Heed, purpose, to indicate the reason, cause

this
הַזֶּ֗ה (haz·zeh)
Article | Pronoun - masculine singular
Strong's 2088: This, that

nation
הַגּ֣וֹי (hag·gō·w)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 1471: A foreign nation, a Gentile, a troop of animals, a flight of locusts

has transgressed
עָבְר֜וּ (‘ā·ḇə·rū)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 5674: To pass over, through, or by, pass on

the covenant
בְּרִיתִי֙ (bə·rî·ṯî)
Noun - feminine singular construct | first person common singular
Strong's 1285: A covenant

I laid down
צִוִּ֣יתִי (ṣiw·wî·ṯî)
Verb - Piel - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 6680: To lay charge (upon), give charge (to), command, order

for their fathers
אֲבוֹתָ֔ם (’ă·ḇō·w·ṯām)
Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 1: Father

and has not
וְלֹ֥א (wə·lō)
Conjunctive waw | Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

heeded
שָׁמְע֖וּ (šā·mə·‘ū)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 8085: To hear intelligently

My voice,
לְקוֹלִֽי׃ (lə·qō·w·lî)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct | first person common singular
Strong's 6963: A voice, sound
 
Judges 2:21


Hebrew
I
אֲנִי֙ (’ă·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

will no
לֹ֣א (lō)
Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

longer
אוֹסִ֔יף (’ō·w·sîp̄)
Verb - Hifil - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3254: To add, augment

drive out
לְהוֹרִ֥ישׁ (lə·hō·w·rîš)
Preposition-l | Verb - Hifil - Infinitive construct
Strong's 3423: To occupy, to seize, to rob, to inherit, to expel, to impoverish, to ruin

before them
מִן־ (min-)
Preposition
Strong's 4480: A part of, from, out of

any
אִ֖ישׁ (’îš)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 376: A man as an individual, a male person

of the nations
הַגּוֹיִ֛ם (hag·gō·w·yim)
Article | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 1471: A foreign nation, a Gentile, a troop of animals, a flight of locusts

Joshua
יְהוֹשֻׁ֖עַ (yə·hō·wō·šu·a‘)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3091: Joshua -- 'the LORD is salvation', Moses' successor, also the name of a number of Israelites

left
עָזַ֥ב (‘ā·zaḇ)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 5800: To loosen, relinquish, permit

when he died.
וַיָּמֹֽת׃ (way·yā·mōṯ)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 4191: To die, to kill
 
Judges 2:22

Hebrew
In this way
לְמַ֛עַן (lə·ma·‘an)
Conjunction
Strong's 4616: Purpose -- intent

I will test
נַסּ֥וֹת (nas·sō·wṯ)
Verb - Piel - Infinitive construct
Strong's 5254: To test, to attempt

whether
אִם־ (’im-)
Conjunction
Strong's 518: Lo!, whether?, if, although, Oh that!, when, not

Israel
יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל (yiś·rā·’êl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3478: Israel -- 'God strives', another name of Jacob and his desc

will keep
הֲשֹׁמְרִ֣ים (hă·šō·mə·rîm)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural
Strong's 8104: To hedge about, guard, to protect, attend to

the way
דֶּ֨רֶךְ (de·reḵ)
Noun - common singular construct
Strong's 1870: A road, a course of life, mode of action

of the LORD
יְהוָ֜ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

by walking in it
לָלֶ֣כֶת (lā·le·ḵeṯ)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 1980: To go, come, walk

as
כַּאֲשֶׁ֛ר (ka·’ă·šer)
Preposition-k | Pronoun - relative
Strong's 834: Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that

their fathers did.”
אֲבוֹתָ֖ם (’ă·ḇō·w·ṯām)
Noun - masculine plural construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 1: Father
 
So true JLG. They were persistently disobedient and punished repeatedly.
Interesting that the angel sent after Joshua died may have been incarnate Jesus.

Hopefully there will be some future awakening before the times of Jacob's troubles begin, Jeremiah 30:7.
 
- Yes!

- Along time ago somebody says he wanted to take the last train!

- The problem when you go sleeping is that it is difficult to wale up!

- And it is necessary to show our faithfulness!

- If we are not faithful to God, how can we be useful!

- A progression is also necessary and it requires time!

- the more the situation degrades, the more the time left is short!
 
How many times was Jerusalem destroy?

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times.


Timeline of Jerusalem - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Timeline_of_Jerusalem

________________________________________________________________________________

Who destroyed Jerusalem first?

On Tisha B'Av, 25 August 587 BCE or 18 July 586 BCE, the Babylonians took Jerusalem, destroyed the First Temple and burned down the city. The small settlements surrounding the city, and those close to the western border of the kingdom, were destroyed as well.



Siege of Jerusalem (587 BC) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Siege_of_Jerusalem_(58.


________________________________________________________________________________


Josephus wrote that 1.1 million people were killed during the siege, of which a majority were Jewish. Josephus attributes this to the celebration of Passover which he uses as rationale for the vast number of people present among the death toll.


Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70…

The Babylonian exile (or Babylonian captivity) is the name generally given to the deportation and exile of the Jews of the ancient Kingdom of Judah to Babylon by Nebuchadrezzar II. The Babylonian exile is distinguished from the earlier exile of citizens of the northern Kingdom of Israel to Assyria around 722 B.C.E. The exile in Babylon—which directly affected mainly those of the upper class of society—occurred in three waves from 597 to 581 B.C.E. as a result of Judean rebellions against Babylonian rule. The Bible portrays the internal cause of the captivity as the sins of Judah in failing to rid herself of idolatry and refusing to heed prophetic warnings not to rebel against Babylon.


While the Jews in Babylon did not suffer greatly in the physical sense, the siege and later sack of Jerusalem in 586 B.C.E., including the destruction of its sacred Temple, left many of the exiles deeply repentant and determined to keep their faith pure. After Cyrus the Great of Persia conquered Babylon, he allowed the exiles to return in 537 B.C.E. They came to Jerusalem with a tradition refined by the rise of the scribal profession, deeply committed to ethnic purity centering on the rebuilt Temple, and yet enriched by universalistic monotheistic values.

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Babylonian_Exile

- I don’t find figures for the first destruction of Jerusalem!

- But a big part of the city was destroyed!

- And the siege lasted two years!


In 586 BC the Babylonian military, led by King Nebuchadnezzar, succeeded in breaking a two-year-long siege and destroyed much of the city of Jerusalem; her walls, palaces, and most devastatingly, the Temple of Solomon.

He burned the Lord’s temple, the king’s palace, and all the houses of Jerusalem; he burned down all the great houses.”

When Judah rebelled once again under King Zedekiah, Nebuchadnezzar must not have been feeling very charitable. The Bible mentions that the siege lasted two years. This military maneuver sees the invading army set up camp all around the target city, cutting off supply lines, and killing or taking prisoner anyone who would try to come or go.


https://biblediscoverytv.com/history/2020/586-bc-the-fall-of-jerusalem/
 
A sincere and/or real fear of God must have never existed in the hearts of most of those living in Jerusalem.
Destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, captured/recaptured 44 times ? Consider present status.
Lack of fear of the Lord is and has been man's shortcoming since his creation beginning in the Garden of Eden.
Fear is a powerful emotion and critical to understanding scripture and understanding and maintaining obedience.

"After preaching a sermon on the necessity of the fear of God in public worship, a friend reminded me, “If you want a nail driven in, you have to hit it more than once.” With that in mind I set about a survey of the Bible’s teaching and found forty truths about fearing God to help hammer in the nail. Brief expositions of some of these verses can be found in Pastor Al Martin’s The Forgotten Fear: Where have all the God-Fearers Gone? (RHB) and Arnold Frank’s The Fear Of God: A Forgotten Doctrine (RHB).



________________________________________________________________________________



Old Testament

Fearing God is the right reaction to sin, guilt, and shame (Gen. 3:10).

Fearing God will flow from being in the presence of God (Gen. 28:16-17: Ex. 3:6).

Fearing God is an appropriate response to God’s character (Gen. 31:42).

Fearing God is an essential characteristic of Christian leaders (Ex.18:21).

Fearing God is the ultimate purpose of divine revelation (Deut. 4:10).

Fearing God should flow from the administration of justice (Deut. 17:13; 21:19-21).

Fearing God is the mark of an exceptional believer (Neh. 7:2).

Fearing God is approved by God and noted by Satan (Job 1:1, 9).

Fearing God is the right response to the exalted Christ (Ps.2:10-11).

Fearing God is to be mixed with joy (Ps. 2:10-11).

Fearing God will happen where mission is successful (Ps. 67:7).

Fearing God assures us of God’s mercy and love (Ps. 103:11, 13).

Fearing God is the result of forgiveness (Ps. 130:4).

Fearing God is the beginning of wisdom (Prov. 1:7).

Fearing God is the end of wisdom (Eccl. 12:13-14).

Fearing God turns us away from evil (Prov. 3:7).

Fearing God will extend your life (Prov. 10:27) and improve the quality of your life (Prov. 14:27).

Fearing God will make you happier than millions of dollars (Prov. 15:16).

Fearing God neutralizes envy and is to be present throughout our lives (Prov. 23:17).

Fearing God is more important than looks in choosing a wife (Prov. 31:30).

Fearing God is a dominant trait in the Messiah and will always accompany the work of the Holy Spirit (Isa. 11:2-3).

Fearing God is the promised gift of God to new covenant believers (Jer. 32:40).

Fearing God helps them persevere in the faith (Jer. 32:40).

New Testament

Fearing God is commanded by Jesus (Matt. 10:28).

Fearing God is still expected of God’s people in the New Testament (Luke 1:49-50).

Fearing God grows in response to miracles (Luke 5:8).

Fearing God was one of the fruits of Pentecost (Acts 2:43).

Fearing God is a spiritually healthy reaction to his judgments in the church (Acts 5:5,11).

Fearing God is a mark of the New Testament church and is consistent with the comforting work of the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:31).

Fearing God is deepened by sovereign election (Rom. 11:20-21).

Fearing God is a motive for evangelism (2 Cor. 5:10-11).

Fearing God motivates sanctification (2 Cor. 7:1).

Fearing God is the framework for a biblical marriage (Eph. 5:21).

Fearing God makes us better employees (Col. 3:22).

Fearing God is the context for working out our salvation (Phil. 2:12-13).

Fearing God assists perseverance in faith (Heb. 4:1).

Fearing God is intensified by redemption and continues throughout our whole lives (1 Peter 1:17-19).

Fearing God is an essential part of successful witnessing (1 Peter 3:15).

Fearing God is God’s last sermon to the world (Rev. 14:6-7).

Fearing God continues into eternity (Rev. 15:3-4; 19:4-5).

https://headhearthand.org/blog/2017/09/05/40-truths-about-the-fear-of-god/#:~:text=Fearing God is the context for working out,continues throughout our whole lives (1 Peter 1:17-19). "
 
Interesting point. As the fear mentioned by God is seriously positive fear.

Had Adam and Eve had the fear of the Lord this world would be a very different world ! One day the earth will be restored back to the Edenic world and the lamb will sleep with the lion and we will not have to survive by the sweat of our brow.

Interesting, God told Daniel not to fear because God knew that Daniel had his heart dedicated to understanding and humility. It seems that God had a very special relationship and great trust in Daniel. Likewise, Daniel had great faith and trust in God.

Ha, I must maintain a fear of the Lord to maintain a good standing with the Lord. Rebellion is such a powerful curse.

New King James Version
Then he said to me, “Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words.
 
- You are so right !

- Think about the positive fear of Noah !

- And he could escape with his family whereas humany died !

- Think about the positive fear of Job : there was was no one like him on earth !

- Think about the positive fear of Abraham who was called the friend of God !

- Think about the positive fear of Joseph who became the second most important man in Egypt after Pharaoh !

- Think about the positive fear of Moses who could prevent twice God to DESTROY ISRAEL !

- Think about the positive fear of Samuel who was jealous for God when Israel rejected him to choose a human king !

- Think about the positive fear of Daniel who was called precious man !

- And...And...And...
 
It is amazing why God chose these people. Were they average people or did God inspire them in some way ? Perhaps it was all by God's design from the beginning. God is certainly omnipotent and omniscient.
 
- Right, let’s start with Noah!

- Think that Adam and Eve were perfect!

- They rejected God and they lost perfection!

- Then we get the beginning of the next generation with Cain and Abel!

- 50% bad and 50% good!

- Then we go to the time of Noah!

- And there we get about 100% bad!

- Adam lived 930 years!

- His son Seth lived 910 years!

- His son Enosh lived 905 years!

- His son Kenan lived 910 years!

- His son Mahalalel lived 895 years!

- His son Jared lived 962 years!

- His son Enoch lived 365 years!

- he kept walking with the true God!

- His son Methuselah lived 969 years!

- His son Lamech lived 777 years!

- His son Noah 950 years!

- He kept walking with the true God!

- If we keep in mind the biblical genealogy:

- Such a short time to get 100% corrupted!

- The difference with today:

- Man could live a lot more time!

- Thus corruption went so fast!

- Only badness!

- And we can’t imagine it because we just live nothing compared to the men of the past!

- Of course, they were in better mental and physical conditions because they lived shorter after the loss of perfection!

- But even the time they lived was nothing compared to eternal life without getting older and in perfect mental and physical conditions!

- Thus God had no choice: there was only Noah who was his only faithful servant!

- Thus he took what was available!

- Think about today!

- Think about today’s corruption!

- If everything was corrupted when the flood came, don’t you think that today’s corruption is everywhere and complete?

- Man is completely corrupted!

- Religion is also completely corrupted!

- You can’t trust anyone to tell you what to do!

- You have to do your part and check everything!

- And you must read the Bible by yourself again and again and ask you the right questions!
 
Did you say forget ? What did you forget ? Oh, to click on reply <smile>. We don't have to like aging, best if we can laugh about it !



- No I started having this problem of memory when I was young!

- But I have been working at it all my life!

- And it is getting better and better!

- In fact aging is another stupidity of human society!

- Even if we are so far from Adam's perfection, God has given us an incredible mind and body we need to use!

- I don't see mental and physical limits!

- I have never learnt so much and I keep increasing my ability to learn!

- And I have never done so much physical activity!

- Of course, I have an advantage which for many is a burden!

- I have two dogs I have to walk many times a day all year long!

- And it helps me to increase the time I spend to learn!

- Without them I wouldn't be able to do so much!

- I don't need pills or anything modern society offer to get worse!

- Think about Stephen Hawking who lived 76 years!

- He was supposed to die young because of his disease!

- Think about everything he has achieved despite his disease!
 
- Let’s go on with Job!

____________________________________________________________________

https://www.gotquestions.org/when-did-Job-live.html

When did Job live?

Job is legendary for his exemplary response to great suffering. We know little about the dates and settings pertaining to Job, but many scholars believe the book of Job is one of the oldest in the Bible. That does not mean that Job himself lived before anyone else in the Bible—he most certainly came after Adam! But there are hints that Job lived in a truly ancient time: Job offered sacrifices himself for his family, instead of relying on a priest (Job 1:5; 42:7–8), and his wealth was measured in livestock, not gold (Job 1:3). It is likely that Job lived sometime between the flood and the time of Moses. Many scholars place Job in the patriarchal period, around the same time that Abraham lived (Genesis 11:28–29).

It seems clear that Job lived prior to the giving of the law, since the book of Job makes no mention of a tabernacle or temple, priests, or the law given to Israel. If Job’s life indeed pre-dated the law, he may have lived sometime around 2200 BC, making him a contemporary of Abraham, Lot, and Isaac. Another clue that places Job in the time prior to Moses is the fact that Job gave his daughters “an inheritance among their brothers” (Job 42:15). Under the Mosaic Law, a father passed his inheritance to sons only, unless he had no sons (Numbers 27:1–11; 36:1–13). A righteous man such as Job would have followed that law in obedience to God; in Job’s case, the law had not yet been given.

The longevity of Job is another clue that he lived around the time of the patriarchs. At that time, it was common for people to live a couple of centuries. Lifespans gradually decreased, until, by the time of the judges, lifespans were typically under a hundred years old. By adding up the years implied by the following facts, Job probably lived to be over 200 years old:

____________________________________________________________________

- So Job lived less time compared to the beginning of the biblical genealogy !

- The book of Job tells us he was a good man always ready to help people !

- It is evident he knew many people !

- He also had a family !

- Of course, his children died because of the devil !

- But what are the facts !

- Everybody was against him without exception !

- He didn’t get any comfort from anybody !

- His wife told him to curse God and die!

- What a wife!

- His family was good to nothing!

- The three men who came to see him tried to destroy him mentally!

- They couldn’t destroy him physically because the devil had already done it!

- Of course, they were another weapon from the devil!

- Anybody from youngsters to old people were against him and of no help!

- What a perfect example of total corruption!
 
Back
Top