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Looking for Job
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- #182
67) Looking for Job
Job 9:
If I were in the right, my own mouth would
condemn me;
Even if I keep my integrity, he will declare
me guilty.
- Job has so few elements so he can only be lost!
- Once again he only knows God, his only reference is God, there is nothing else!
Job 9:
If I were in the right, my own mouth would
condemn me;
Even if I keep my integrity, he will declare
me guilty.
- Job has so few elements so he can only be lost!
- Once again he only knows God, his only reference is God, there is nothing else!
ThenIf I were in the right, my own mouth would
condemn me;
If our mouth praises us, we need to examine to see if we are wrong.
eddif
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- #184
- In fact, our mouths should never praise us!Then
If our mouth praises us, we need to examine to see if we are wrong.
eddif
- We should tend to accurate knowledge!
- Meaning it's a path we must keep going!
- Meaning there is always a lot more to learn!
- And constantly checking what we know!
- What we know today may be wrong tomorrow!
- Depending on the elements we have or not!
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- #185
68) Looking for Job
Job 9:
Even if I keep my integrity, I am not confident
about myself;
I reject this life of mine.
- Job is faithful to God and he is not going to change!
- But he knows his situation and he can’t bear it, he has enough of it!
- The use of the two verbs keep / reject are clear: he makes a difference between his faith in God and his life!
- Remember his personal situation: month after month, nothing improves, on the contrary, everything goes worse!
- And the three individuals are there to make it worse so he doesn’t get any rest!
- But whatever happens, his faithfulness is not for sale!
- But he has no hope, so it would be better to put an end to it!
Job 9:
Even if I keep my integrity, I am not confident
about myself;
I reject this life of mine.
- Job is faithful to God and he is not going to change!
- But he knows his situation and he can’t bear it, he has enough of it!
- The use of the two verbs keep / reject are clear: he makes a difference between his faith in God and his life!
- Remember his personal situation: month after month, nothing improves, on the contrary, everything goes worse!
- And the three individuals are there to make it worse so he doesn’t get any rest!
- But whatever happens, his faithfulness is not for sale!
- But he has no hope, so it would be better to put an end to it!
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- #186
69) Looking for Job
Job 9:
It is all the same. That is why I say,
“He destroys the innocent and the wicked alike.”
- When Job thinks of his dreadful situation, knowing that he has done nothing wrong, there is no difference between being innocent and wicked!
-Think about Job’s feelings!
- He is bitter!
- He has no hope!
- And time is working against him!
Job 9:
It is all the same. That is why I say,
“He destroys the innocent and the wicked alike.”
- When Job thinks of his dreadful situation, knowing that he has done nothing wrong, there is no difference between being innocent and wicked!
-Think about Job’s feelings!
- He is bitter!
- He has no hope!
- And time is working against him!
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- #188
71) Looking for Job
Job 9:
The earth has been handed over to the
wicked;
He covers the eyes of its judges.
If it is not he, then, who is it?
- Here we are again: Job only knows God!
- He doesn’t know that the devil is controlling the world and he is the one who is responsible!
- In fact, in a way, the world is in Job’s situation, but it is the world, not only one man but the whole of humanity, and who is going to be faithful like Job?
Job 9:
The earth has been handed over to the
wicked;
He covers the eyes of its judges.
If it is not he, then, who is it?
- Here we are again: Job only knows God!
- He doesn’t know that the devil is controlling the world and he is the one who is responsible!
- In fact, in a way, the world is in Job’s situation, but it is the world, not only one man but the whole of humanity, and who is going to be faithful like Job?
- Thread starter
- #189
72) Looking for Job
Job 9:
Now my days are swifter than a runner;
They run away without seeing good.
- Whatever may happen to Job, in spite of his stress, his ideas about his personal situation are clear: every day is alike, Job doesn’t wait for anything, he has no hope!
- Whatever the three individuals say, Job won’t change his mind!
- He keeps straight in his boots!
Job 9:
Now my days are swifter than a runner;
They run away without seeing good.
- Whatever may happen to Job, in spite of his stress, his ideas about his personal situation are clear: every day is alike, Job doesn’t wait for anything, he has no hope!
- Whatever the three individuals say, Job won’t change his mind!
- He keeps straight in his boots!
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- #190
73) Looking for Job
Job 9:
They glide by like reed boats,
Like eagles that swoop down on their prey.
- Job’s mind is so clear!
- His images are so precise!
- What a man!
- Who in such a situation would be able to stand mentally straight!
- He always fights back!
- Nobody can stop him speaking and opening his mind!
Job 9:
They glide by like reed boats,
Like eagles that swoop down on their prey.
- Job’s mind is so clear!
- His images are so precise!
- What a man!
- Who in such a situation would be able to stand mentally straight!
- He always fights back!
- Nobody can stop him speaking and opening his mind!
- Thread starter
- #191
74) Looking for Job
Job 9:
If I say, “I will forget my complaint,
I will change my expression and be
cheerful,”
I would still be afraid because of all my pains,
And I know you would not find me innocent.
- Job knows he is faithful!
- But he also knows he is in trouble!
- And it wasn’t so before!
- So he can’t understand because it seems he is guilty but he doesn’t know what he has done wrong!
Job 9:
If I say, “I will forget my complaint,
I will change my expression and be
cheerful,”
I would still be afraid because of all my pains,
And I know you would not find me innocent.
- Job knows he is faithful!
- But he also knows he is in trouble!
- And it wasn’t so before!
- So he can’t understand because it seems he is guilty but he doesn’t know what he has done wrong!
- Thread starter
- #192
75) Looking for Job
Job 9:
I would still be afraid because of all my pains,
And I know you would not find me innocent.
- Job feels bad because of his physical and mental conditions
- But the worst for him is to think he has done something wrong against God and he doesn’t know what!
- Of course, physical and mental conditions are deeply connected!
- But having no hope is the worst!
- It’s really hard when everything is dark and you don’t see any light!
- You need to look to the future!
- Because you can’t change the past, you have to live with it!
- But you can build something on it so you can go on!
- You need a project!
Job 9:
I would still be afraid because of all my pains,
And I know you would not find me innocent.
- Job feels bad because of his physical and mental conditions
- But the worst for him is to think he has done something wrong against God and he doesn’t know what!
- Of course, physical and mental conditions are deeply connected!
- But having no hope is the worst!
- It’s really hard when everything is dark and you don’t see any light!
- You need to look to the future!
- Because you can’t change the past, you have to live with it!
- But you can build something on it so you can go on!
- You need a project!
- Thread starter
- #193
76) Looking for Job
Job 9:
I would be found guilty.
So why should I struggle in vain?
- When we just listen to Job, it makes it so powerful!
- What the three individuals say is so empty!
- And Job says it again, the worst for him is the feeling of being guilty and not knowing why!
- His relationship with God is so fundamental!
- It is like eating and drinking and sleeping and breathing: you can’t live without doing it!
- Thus the Book of Job is a good way to ask ourselves what kind of relationship we have with God!
- Are we foreigners or do we want to build a strong relationship with him!
- If so, we must study daily but we need more than that, we need to keep thinking about what we learn daily, it must feel our minds, our lungs, our bodies and help us to get up every morning!
Job 9:
I would be found guilty.
So why should I struggle in vain?
- When we just listen to Job, it makes it so powerful!
- What the three individuals say is so empty!
- And Job says it again, the worst for him is the feeling of being guilty and not knowing why!
- His relationship with God is so fundamental!
- It is like eating and drinking and sleeping and breathing: you can’t live without doing it!
- Thus the Book of Job is a good way to ask ourselves what kind of relationship we have with God!
- Are we foreigners or do we want to build a strong relationship with him!
- If so, we must study daily but we need more than that, we need to keep thinking about what we learn daily, it must feel our minds, our lungs, our bodies and help us to get up every morning!
- Thread starter
- #194
77) Looking for Job
Job 9:
if I wash myself in water from melting snow,
And I cleanse my hands in lye,
Then you would dip me in a pit,
So that even my own garments would detest
me.
- “cleanse my hands in lye” is so violent!
- Job doesn’t know what to do!
- “detest” is also violent!
- It shows how much Job is affected emotionally!
- Is constructive dialogue or communication between two people essential?
- Well, Job says he can’t do it without!
- He needs to communicate with God!
- What about us?
Job 9:
if I wash myself in water from melting snow,
And I cleanse my hands in lye,
Then you would dip me in a pit,
So that even my own garments would detest
me.
- “cleanse my hands in lye” is so violent!
- Job doesn’t know what to do!
- “detest” is also violent!
- It shows how much Job is affected emotionally!
- Is constructive dialogue or communication between two people essential?
- Well, Job says he can’t do it without!
- He needs to communicate with God!
- What about us?
- Thread starter
- #195
78) Looking for Job
Job 9:
For he is not a man like me that I may answer him,
That we should go to court together.
- Of course, God is superior to us!
- But God finds pleasure and satisfaction when people serve him faithfully!
- Think about the devil’s jealousy about people worshiping God with faithfulness!
- We are made in His image!
- So it means we are able to develop a special relationship with him!
- Think about working with God forever in a world dominated by him!
*- No more injustice and the possibility to live in a world where nobody can oppose him and make a world where it is impossible to live!
- On the contrary, living in a world where we can get up every morning and be sure that we can make it better and better!
Job 9:
For he is not a man like me that I may answer him,
That we should go to court together.
- Of course, God is superior to us!
- But God finds pleasure and satisfaction when people serve him faithfully!
- Think about the devil’s jealousy about people worshiping God with faithfulness!
- We are made in His image!
- So it means we are able to develop a special relationship with him!
- Think about working with God forever in a world dominated by him!
*- No more injustice and the possibility to live in a world where nobody can oppose him and make a world where it is impossible to live!
- On the contrary, living in a world where we can get up every morning and be sure that we can make it better and better!
- Thread starter
- #196
79) Looking for Job
Job 9:
There is no person to decide between us,
Who could serve as our judge.
- In a relationship with God, there are only two beings: God and us!
- We mustn’t let anybody interfere with our relationship with God!
- People can help us make it stronger but at the end of the times, it’s up to us!
- We can only accuse ourselves, not the others!
- If we let others govern our relationship with God, it’s our own mistake!
Job 9:
There is no person to decide between us,
Who could serve as our judge.
- In a relationship with God, there are only two beings: God and us!
- We mustn’t let anybody interfere with our relationship with God!
- People can help us make it stronger but at the end of the times, it’s up to us!
- We can only accuse ourselves, not the others!
- If we let others govern our relationship with God, it’s our own mistake!
- Thread starter
- #197
80) Looking for Job
Job 9:
If he would stop beating me
And not let his terror frighten me,
Then I would speak to him unafraid,
For it is not in me to speak out of fear.
- The last verse of Chapter 9 is powerful!
- It tells us about Job’s relationship with God!
- A relationship based on confidence!
- “FOR IT IS NOT IN ME TO SPEAK OUT OF FEAR!”
- What a powerful feeling to be able to open our hearts to God and speak freely to him!
- It should be the rule!
Job 9:
If he would stop beating me
And not let his terror frighten me,
Then I would speak to him unafraid,
For it is not in me to speak out of fear.
- The last verse of Chapter 9 is powerful!
- It tells us about Job’s relationship with God!
- A relationship based on confidence!
- “FOR IT IS NOT IN ME TO SPEAK OUT OF FEAR!”
- What a powerful feeling to be able to open our hearts to God and speak freely to him!
- It should be the rule!
- Thread starter
- #198
81) Looking for Job
Job 10:
“I loathe my life.
I will give vent to my complaints.
I will speak out in my bitter distress!
- On the one hand, Job “loathe” his life, he can’t bear being away from God!
- On the other hand, the only thing left to him is to “vent” his complaints!
- That’s what makes his strength in spite of his condition!
- He wants to speak to God about his own feelings and open his hearts to him as he has always done it!
- That’s the only thing he gets!
- And nobody can take it from him!
Job 10:
“I loathe my life.
I will give vent to my complaints.
I will speak out in my bitter distress!
- On the one hand, Job “loathe” his life, he can’t bear being away from God!
- On the other hand, the only thing left to him is to “vent” his complaints!
- That’s what makes his strength in spite of his condition!
- He wants to speak to God about his own feelings and open his hearts to him as he has always done it!
- That’s the only thing he gets!
- And nobody can take it from him!
- Thread starter
- #199
82) Looking for Job
Job 10:
I will say to God:” Do not pronounce me guilty.
Tell me why you are contending with me.
- Job is used to communicate personally with God!
- He doesn’t know how to do it in another way!
- We don’t know when he started his relationship with God!
- We don’t know about his family!
- As far as we know, the relationship between Job and God has strong foundation!
Job 10:
I will say to God:” Do not pronounce me guilty.
Tell me why you are contending with me.
- Job is used to communicate personally with God!
- He doesn’t know how to do it in another way!
- We don’t know when he started his relationship with God!
- We don’t know about his family!
- As far as we know, the relationship between Job and God has strong foundation!
- Thread starter
- #200
83) Looking for Job
Job 10:
Does it benefit you to oppress,
To despise the work of your hands
While you favor the advice of the wicked?
- Yes, Job is in bad conditions!
- Yes, Job feels bad!
- Yes, he wants to tell everybody!
- Yes, he wants to shout it to everybody!
- Yes, he doesn’t understand it!
- And yes, this misunderstanding IS GROWING AND GROWING INSIDE HIM!
- As if it was going to explode like a nuclear bomb!
Job 10:
Does it benefit you to oppress,
To despise the work of your hands
While you favor the advice of the wicked?
- Yes, Job is in bad conditions!
- Yes, Job feels bad!
- Yes, he wants to tell everybody!
- Yes, he wants to shout it to everybody!
- Yes, he doesn’t understand it!
- And yes, this misunderstanding IS GROWING AND GROWING INSIDE HIM!
- As if it was going to explode like a nuclear bomb!