Looking for Job

[JLGJLG]

Do you think anyone sees your comparison today, in this about Job and on what you have began to speak about Samuel. How you said Samuel was not yet born, and how you say Job was an old man ?

Its like the beginning of any story book in the world, that speaks some interest in the story they are trying to make interesting for people to read their book.

- First, thanks for "your inspiration"!
- I wasn't expecting so much for three small paragraphs about Job, Daniel and Samuel!
- Just for information, when I started publishing on the internet, it was about these three books!
- I had many discussions about them!
- And I wrote a lot!
- It would be easy to understand what I am doing now!
- Your last sentence cleary shows that you have no idea about what I write when I speak about Job, Daniel and Samuel!
- If you had read and understood a minimum, you would have never said such a sentence!
- it is such a misinterpretation!

 

[JLGJLG]

Job of course is not who shows the way to the Father, which is through HIs only Son Jesus Christ.


Job had patience in all that was put on him, but Job did not hold his tongue.


Job 32:2 Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God.

Job 33:8 Surely thou hast spoken in mine hearing, and I have heard the voice of thy words, saying,
9 I am clean without transgression, I am innocent; neither is there iniquity in me.

Job 33:12 Behold, in this thou art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man.

Job 33:27 He looketh upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not;
28 He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light.

Job 34:5 For Job hath said, I am righteous: and God hath taken away my judgment.
6 Should I lie against my right? my wound is incurable without transgression.
7 What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water?
8 Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men.
9 For he hath said, It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself with God.

Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?
3 For thou saidst, What advantage will it be unto thee? and, What profit shall I have, if I be cleansed from my sin?

Job 35:16 Therefore doth Job open his mouth in vain; he multiplieth words without knowledge.

Job 36:21 Take heed, regard not iniquity: for this hast thou chosen rather than affliction.

Job 37:14 Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God.

Job 37:24 Men do therefore fear him: he respecteth not any that are wise of heart.



Job 38:1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
3 Then Job answered the Lord, and said,
4 Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.

- You should stop smoking!
- I am speaking about Job not about Jesus!
- Job from the earth, jesus from Heaven!
- How do you want to compare them?
- How can you just think about?
- Man, I use simple words, easy to understand, not to misunderstand!
- When I say something, i don't say the contrary!
- Moreover, apparently, you have no idea about what means having big psychological problems!
While mental disorders include a range of illnesses (such as anxiety, schizophrenia, and autism), depression is the most common and is pervasive worldwide. Depression is now the fourth-leading cause of the global disease burden and the leading cause of disability worldwide.

Depression a Leading Contributor to Global Burden of Disease​

- Maybe you live on another planet!
- I live on the earth, I live with human beings who can get sick!
- Are you from Mars the red planet?
- Do you understand Yah.weh when he says about Job: THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HIM ON EARTH?

 

[JLGJLG]

Now we understand there is faithfulness where it is shown, not where it is claimed.

The moderator ( who should look to see if these threads are speaking against Jesus Christ) can easily see that Hebrews shows how Moses was faithful in all his house to God who appointed him, BUT CHRIST, as the Son is over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose house WE ARE, for Christ to be the merciful and FAITHFUL High Priest to make RECONCILIATION FOR THE PEOPLE.

Jesus Christ is the faithful witness, that first begotten of the dead, who loved us to wash us from our sins in HIS OWN BLOOD.



Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Hebrews 3:5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

- Man, you should be careful about what you say!
- You speak against Yah.weh!
- If Yah.weh says about Job: THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HIM ON EARTH, THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HIM ON EARTH!
- If Yah.weh says such a thing about Job, it is because he knows him, not you!
- Moreover, if Yah.weh lets the devil attack Job, it is only because Job's faithfulness is an evidence for Yah.weh!
- Maybe not for you!
- But if Yah.weh says so, I believe Yah.weh and nobody else, and above all not a human being!

 

[JLGJLG]

2) Job - comparing faithfulness to Yah.weh

• He has everything!
• Many animals!
• Many servants!
• Many children!
• We are told about one wife like Abraham!
• A deep relationship to Yah.weh!
• He is respected by everybody!
• Blameless!
• Upright!
• Fearing Yah.weh!
• Shunning evil!
• Is that not enough?
• Unfortunately, we get nothing about Job’s youth and adulthood!
• Personally, I would have enjoyed having such information!
• Then you can compare with your whole life!
• Compare the different stages!
• Nothing special!
• Just human!

 

[gordon777]

2) Job - comparing faithfulness to Yah.weh

• He has everything!
• Many animals!
• Many servants!
• Many children!
• We are told about one wife like Abraham!
• A deep relationship to Yah.weh!
• He is respected by everybody!
• Blameless!
• Upright!
• Fearing Yah.weh!
• Shunning evil!
• Is that not enough?
• Unfortunately, we get nothing about Job’s youth and adulthood!
• Personally, I would have enjoyed having such information!
• Then you can compare with your whole life!
• Compare the different stages!
• Nothing special!
• Just human!

Jesus Christ is the second man, special, the first man is your example of nothing special.


1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;




Why will it take until judgement day for the moderators to be judged for allowing blasphemy on these forums.

 

[JLGJLG]

3) Job - comparing faithfulness to Yah.weh

JOB 1:5

And
וַיְהִ֡י (way·hî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

when
כִּ֣י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

the days
יְמֵ֨י (yə·mê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 3117: A day

of feasting
הַמִּשְׁתֶּ֜ה (ham·miš·teh)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 4960: Drink, drinking, a banquet, feast

were over,
הִקִּיפֽוּ֩ (hiq·qî·p̄ū)
Verb - Hifil - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 5362: To strike, to knock together, surround, circulate

Job
אִיּ֣וֹב (’î·yō·wḇ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 347: Job -- a patriarch

would send [for his children]
וַיִּשְׁלַ֧ח (way·yiš·laḥ)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 7971: To send away, for, out

to purify them,
וַֽיְקַדְּשֵׁ֗ם (way·qad·də·šêm)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Piel - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular | third person masculine plural
Strong's 6942: To be set apart or consecrated

rising early
וְהִשְׁכִּ֣ים (wə·hiš·kîm)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 7925: To load up, to start early in the morning

in the morning
בַּבֹּקֶר֮ (bab·bō·qer)
Preposition-b, Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 1242: Dawn, morning

to offer
וְהֶעֱלָ֣ה (wə·he·‘ĕ·lāh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 5927: To ascend, in, actively

burnt offerings
עֹלוֹת֮ (‘ō·lō·wṯ)
Noun - feminine plural
Strong's 5930: Whole burnt offering

for all of them.
כֻּלָּם֒ (kul·lām)
Noun - masculine singular construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 3605: The whole, all, any, every

For
כִּ֚י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

Job
אִיּ֔וֹב (’î·yō·wḇ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 347: Job -- a patriarch

thought,
אָמַ֣ר (’ā·mar)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“Perhaps
אוּלַי֙ (’ū·lay)
Adverb
Strong's 194: Perhaps

my children
בָנַ֔י (ḇā·nay)
Noun - masculine plural construct | first person common singular
Strong's 1121: A son

have sinned
חָטְא֣וּ (ḥā·ṭə·’ū)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 2398: To miss, to sin, to forfeit, lack, expiate, repent, lead astray, condemn

and cursed
וּבֵרֲכ֥וּ (ū·ḇê·ră·ḵū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Piel - Conjunctive perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 1288: To kneel, to bless God, man, to curse

God
אֱלֹהִ֖ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

in their hearts.�
בִּלְבָבָ֑ם (bil·ḇā·ḇām)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 3824: Inner man, mind, will, heart

This
כָּ֛כָה (kā·ḵāh)
Adverb
Strong's 3602: Just so

was Job�s
אִיּ֖וֹב (’î·yō·wḇ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 347: Job -- a patriarch

regular
כָּל־ (kāl-)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3605: The whole, all, any, every

practice.
יַעֲשֶׂ֥ה (ya·‘ă·śeh)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 6213: To do, make


- To purify them!
- Rising early in the morning!
- To offer burnt offerings for all of them!
- “Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts”!
- This was Job’s regular practice!
- Have you ever seen a simple man like you and me doing such a thing in the Bible?
- I haven’t!
- Just this small element opposes powerfully against all those who speak against Job and have no idea about what means FAITHFULNESS TO YAH.WEH!
- It’s easy to understand when we realize that UNFAITHFULNESS IS NEARLY EVERYWHERE IN THE BIBLE!

 

[gordon777]

- To purify them!
- Rising early in the morning!
- To offer burnt offerings for all of them!
- “Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts”!
- This was Job’s regular practice!
- Have you ever seen a simple man like you and me doing such a thing in the Bible?
- I haven’t!
- Just this small element opposes powerfully against all those who speak against Job and have no idea about what means FAITHFULNESS TO YAH.WEH!
- It’s easy to understand when we realize that UNFAITHFULNESS IS NEARLY EVERYWHERE IN THE BIBLE!

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

 

[JLGJLG]

98) Looking for Job


Job 10

So why did you bring me out from the womb?

I should have died before any eye could see

me.


- Yes, Job has only one reference: God!


- So he doesn’t understand what’s on!


- Why having such a life and finishing in such a way: it is a nonsense!


- Except there is no one like him on earth regarding his faithfulness!


- And he was chosen by the devil to oppose God but despite the devil he showed that God was right that is there is no one like him on earth!


- So much was in this trial and till now it has been the same story with humanity: faithfulness to God!

 

[JLGJLG]

99) Looking for Job


Job 10

It would have been as though I never existed;

I would have been taken straight from the

womb to the grave.


- No way!


- Job doesn’t know it but he takes part in something he can’t imagine!


- He is the one who shows that a man can stay faithful to God whatever may happen to him!


- If the devil chose him to fight God, it was because he was special and his relationship with God was exceptional!


- Think about Job’s feelings through his trial and then think about God’s feelings watching Job being tortured physically and mentally by the devil and he couldn’t do anything because there was a trial on!


- The more we read about Job and his relationship with God the more it makes us think about our personal relationship with God!


- It shows we need to build up such a relationship and it may grow or shrink depending on the efforts we do!


- And Job shows us the way!

 

[JLGJLG]

100) Looking for Job


Job 10

Are not my days few? Let him leave me alone;

Let him turn his eyes away from me, so that

I may find some relief


- He doesn’t know but he speaks about the devil!


- He has no idea of tomorrow!


- He just wants his torture to finish!


- It can be death or life, anything but no more torture!


- But he keeps faithful and at the same time he keeps complaining because of his torture!

 

[JLGJLG]

101) Looking for Job


Job 10

Before I go away – and I will not return -

To the land of deepest darkness,

To the land of utter gloom,

A land of deep shadow and disorder,

where even the light is like the gloom.


- These words remind me of those of Jesus speaking about death as if it was sleep!


- deepest darkness, utter gloom, deep shadow and disorder, the light is like gloom!


- Quite a different vision from what people usually think it is!


- Maybe they should think about!

 

[JLGJLG]

102) Looking for Job


Job 12

Then Job says in reply:

“Surely you are the people who know,

And wisdom will die out with you!


- If we didn’t know Job’s situation, would we think about someone so combative?


- Difficult to think so!


- So precise!


- Wisdom is a journey which never ends!


- And the beginning of this journey is humility: no humility, no journey, no wisdom!

 

[gordon777]

The way to Christ is to not hear all the thieves and robbers before Him, and then to not hear all the false teachers who rise after also.


John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.




Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Peter 2:1-2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

 

[JLGJLG]

4) Job - comparing faithfulness to Yah.weh

(Job 1:1)

• Blameless!
• Upright!
• Fearing God!
• Shunning evil!

(Job 1:8)

• There is no one like him on earth!
• Blameless!
• Upright!
• Fearing God!
• Shunning evil!

• We find twice the same words about Job!
• Once in the text!
• Once when Yah.weh speaks to the devil!
• Thus for Yah.weh, Job’s faithfulness is clear like crystal!
• Job doesn’t need any refinement!
• He does everything Yah.weh expect him to do!
• And even more!
• He does everything according to what he knows!
• In the Bible, Israel does the reverse that is spiritual corruption and follows corruption!
• They know what to do and they do the reverse!
• Today it is the same with mankind, there is absolutely no difference!
• And many speak against Job!
• Thus they also speak against Yah.weh!
• Find the mistake!

 

[JLGJLG]

103) Looking for Job


Job 12

But I too have understanding.

I am not inferior to you.

Who does not know these things?


- Job is not a young boy!


- He has lived for quite some time!


- He has life experience!


- He has helped many people!


- He is someone you can count on!


- We know him through the Book of Job!


- We know them according to what they say!


- And they were supposed to help Job but they are liars, they do the reverse!


- They don’t come from God but from the devil!


- They are just another attempt from him to get rid of Job!

 

[JLGJLG]

104) Looking for Job

Job 12

I have become a laughingstock to my

companions,

One calling to God for an answer.

A righteous and blameless man is a

laughingstock.


- Laughingstock!


- The book of Job tells us a lot about Job!


- He has done so many good things!


- And he is faithful to God!


- And he has become a laughingstock!


- Just concentrate on this word!


- Think about Job’s life and his actions!


- “A righteous and blameless man is a laughingstock”!


- What a shock for him!


- All that for that!


- What a nonsense for Job!


- He can’t situate anywhere!


- He is nowhere!


- Or better said he keeps by his faithfulness!


- It is his torch lighting him in the darkness!


- And he keeps fighting whatever happens!

 

[JLGJLG]

5) Job - comparing faithfulness to Yah.weh

- Are the devil accusations against Job serious?
- In fact, they are completely ridiculous!
- Job is a faithful servant of Yah.weh!
- Because of his faithfulness, Yah.weh blesses him!
- it is a two-way relationship!
- It has always been so!
- In Matthew 4, the devil does it this way when he provokes Jesus!
- And the third attempt is the best: something in exchange for something else!
- He does the same with Eve!
- In the covenant between Yah.weh and Israel, it is the same way again!
- In fact, there is only one way!
- Yah.weh only gives!
- Israel gives nothing back!
- Thus the devil is less than nothing!
- That’s why Yah.weh says: there is nothing like him on earth!

 

[JLGJLG]

105) Looking for Job


Job 12

The carefree person has contempt for calamity,

Thinking it is only for those whose feet are

unsteady.


- The carefree person doesn’t care!


- But Job cares about everything!


- And he cares about God!


- And he cares about people!


- But he also cares about himself!


- And knowing his personal situation he can only be upset!

 

[JLGJLG]

6) Job - comparing faithfulness to Yah.weh

- We breathe CORRUPTION through pollution!
- We eat CORRUPTION through pollution!
- We drink CORRUPTION through pollution!
- We are contaminated through:
- MORAL CORRUPTION!
- RELIGIOUS CORRUPTION!
- MENTAL CORRUPTION!
- HEALTH CORRUPTION!
- HUMAN CORRUPTION!

- When we look at the book of Job, Yah.weh says about Job:
- There is no one like him on earth!
- We are so contaminated that it is so difficult for us to understand these words from Yah.weh!
- We are so contaminated that it is easy for us to condemn Job!
- But we have no roadmap!
- We don’t have constant actions to fight corruption!
- We live in a human society which is completely corrupted!
- Or better said, human society is corruption itself!
- And the devil is the father of human corruption!
- And he started with Eve!
- And he tried everything possible to corrupt Job!
- BUT HE FAILED!
AND IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE!

 

[JLGJLG]

106) Looking for Job


Job 12

The tents of robbers are at peace,

And those who provoke God are secure,

Those who have their god in their hands.


- God is tortured!


- So he feels bad!

- And he sees what’s on in the world!


- What would he say if he could see what is happening today?