Mark Of The Beast Is Islam?

[Strangelove]

Here is a video you can watch to get started:
YouTube - Islamic History and Bible Prophecy
I found it intriguing.

Nothing in there at all about the mark of the beast.

He says Islam is the Antichrist cos they built a mosque above the original holy of holies in Jerusalem....?.....?...um.....ok..

Aaaaaaaaaaaanyhoot...

The six pointed star is associated with the worship of Saturn. Therefore, the beast is Saturn (Satan) and his mark is the 6-pointed star.

Acts 7:43 - Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR OF YOUR GOD REMPHAN, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Amos 5:26-27 - But ye have born the tabernacle of your Moloch, and Chiun (Remphan) your images, the STAR OF YOUR GOD, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore, will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord...

1. The mark of Cain was worshipped by the Israelites in the wilderness as the star of Remphan, which Strong’s Concordance identifies as Chiun:

Strong’s #4481 - Rhemphan {hrem-fan'} by incorrect transliteration for a word of Hebrew origin 3594; n pr m AV - Remphan 1; 1 Remphan = "the shrunken (as lifeless)" 1) the name of an idol worshipped secretly by the Israelites in the wilderness

Strong’s #3594 - Kiyuwn {kee-yoon'} from 3559; n pr dei AV - Chiun 1; 1 Chiun = "an image" or "pillar" 1) probably a statue of the Assyrian-Babylonian god of the planet Saturn and used to symbolise Israelite apostasy

2. Both Chiun and Saturn are identified as Cain.
“The god of time was Chium in Egypt, or Saturn...and Chium is the same as Cain.” - Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine (897:390)

N.B. Chium is an alternative spelling of Chiun: “...Chium, Chiun kiyyun, khiyun (Hebrew)...” - Theosophical Glossary (898)

“Chiun is sometimes called Kaiwan, or spelled Khiun, and means star. The star of Saturn was a god... Sakkuth and Kaiwan or Chiun are objects of idolatrous worship and are Assyrian gods. In Akkadian texts both names mean the planet or star, Saturn.” (Graham, The Six-Pointed Star, pp. 28-29)

Since Chiun and Cain are linked with Saturn, the planetary name for Satan, the mark of Cain was the mark of Saturn, a six-pointed star.

Strong’s #7014 - Qayin {kah'-yin} the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 07069); TWOT - 2017,2016 AV - Cain 17, Kenite 1; 18 n pr m Cain = “possession” 1) eldest son of Adam and Eve and the first murderer having murdered his brother Abel n pr gent Kenite = “smiths” 2) the tribe from which the father-in-law of Moses was a member and which lived in the area between southern Palestine and the mountains of Sinai.

4. The Kenites who claim to have descended from Cain wore the mark of the Tau Cross, the letter of Saturn, on their foreheads.

"In this overlapping form [the Star of David] is the mark of the double messiah: the priestly ... messiah and the kingly...messiah. As such it is the only true sign of Jesus, and it carries the extra meaning as being the representative of the BRIGHT STAR OF DAVID'S LINE THAT AROSE IN THE MORNING. If the Star of David is a symbol of the unified messiah-ship of Jesus, it should be the mark of Christianity. Then the question has to be, what is the symbol of Judaism? The answer is the cross. This is the mark of the 'TAU' and it is this shape of cross upon which Jesus was crucified. The TAU was the mark of Yahweh...the Kenites bore ON THEIR FOREHEADS long before Moses came across them in the wilderness... " - The Hiram Key (162:140-141)

“TAU... [is the] letter of Saturn...” Israel Regardie, The Golden Dawn (153:215)

The Chaldean number for Saturn is 666, suggesting that the mark of Cain was a prototype of the mark of the beast—the six-pointed star received by those who will worship the god Saturn during the Golden Age of Saturn , the occult millennium (which will be shortened to 3 1/2 years). Some Jewish sources also say the mark of Cain was the Seal of Solomon or Star of David.

Try this video out:

[video=youtube;p5eJQkSq9QE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5eJQkSq9QE&feature=related[/video]


[video=youtube;VkX4e1Ak4Kc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkX4e1Ak4Kc&feature=related[/video]

 

[theLords]

I know, Doc. I was merely introducing her to the theory. ;)

 

[LostSoul]

Nothing in there at all about the mark of the beast.

He says Islam is the Antichrist cos they built a mosque above the original holy of holies in Jerusalem....?.....?...um.....ok..

Aaaaaaaaaaaanyhoot...

The six pointed star is associated with the worship of Saturn. Therefore, the beast is Saturn (Satan) and his mark is the 6-pointed star.

Acts 7:43 - Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR OF YOUR GOD REMPHAN, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Amos 5:26-27 - But ye have born the tabernacle of your Moloch, and Chiun (Remphan) your images, the STAR OF YOUR GOD, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore, will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord...

1. The mark of Cain was worshipped by the Israelites in the wilderness as the star of Remphan, which Strong’s Concordance identifies as Chiun:

Strong’s #4481 - Rhemphan {hrem-fan'} by incorrect transliteration for a word of Hebrew origin 3594; n pr m AV - Remphan 1; 1 Remphan = "the shrunken (as lifeless)" 1) the name of an idol worshipped secretly by the Israelites in the wilderness

Strong’s #3594 - Kiyuwn {kee-yoon'} from 3559; n pr dei AV - Chiun 1; 1 Chiun = "an image" or "pillar" 1) probably a statue of the Assyrian-Babylonian god of the planet Saturn and used to symbolise Israelite apostasy

2. Both Chiun and Saturn are identified as Cain.
“The god of time was Chium in Egypt, or Saturn...and Chium is the same as Cain.†- Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine (897:390)

N.B. Chium is an alternative spelling of Chiun: “...Chium, Chiun kiyyun, khiyun (Hebrew)...†- Theosophical Glossary (898)

“Chiun is sometimes called Kaiwan, or spelled Khiun, and means star. The star of Saturn was a god... Sakkuth and Kaiwan or Chiun are objects of idolatrous worship and are Assyrian gods. In Akkadian texts both names mean the planet or star, Saturn.†(Graham, The Six-Pointed Star, pp. 28-29)

Since Chiun and Cain are linked with Saturn, the planetary name for Satan, the mark of Cain was the mark of Saturn, a six-pointed star.

Strong’s #7014 - Qayin {kah'-yin} the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 07069); TWOT - 2017,2016 AV - Cain 17, Kenite 1; 18 n pr m Cain = “possession†1) eldest son of Adam and Eve and the first murderer having murdered his brother Abel n pr gent Kenite = “smiths†2) the tribe from which the father-in-law of Moses was a member and which lived in the area between southern Palestine and the mountains of Sinai.

4. The Kenites who claim to have descended from Cain wore the mark of the Tau Cross, the letter of Saturn, on their foreheads.



“TAU... [is the] letter of Saturn...†Israel Regardie, The Golden Dawn (153:215)

The Chaldean number for Saturn is 666, suggesting that the mark of Cain was a prototype of the mark of the beast—the six-pointed star received by those who will worship the god Saturn during the Golden Age of Saturn , the occult millennium (which will be shortened to 3 1/2 years). Some Jewish sources also say the mark of Cain was the Seal of Solomon or Star of David.

Try this video out:

[video=youtube;p5eJQkSq9QE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5eJQkSq9QE&feature=related[/video]


[video=youtube;VkX4e1Ak4Kc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkX4e1Ak4Kc&feature=related[/video]

Are you one who feels that the line of David, or one of the Jewish community is to be the source of the AntiChrist?

Feel this is becoming a method to use in which to slam other religions.....not so much a means to refer to scripture itself as a means to understand what is to come.

 

[Strangelove]

Are you one who feels that the line of David, or one of the Jewish community is to be the source of the AntiChrist?

Not at all. Infact the source of the antichrist will be the ones who SAY they are Jews but do LIE. The Synagogue of Satan. The FAKE Jewish leadership which we call Zionism today, their HQ being Jerusalem (Babylon the Great). In Jesus' day they were the Pharisees and Sanhedrin Talmudic sects. The symbol of Zionism is the six pointed star. The majority of Jews are simply lost sheep. I was one until very recently. I have nothing against them

Feel this is becoming a method to use in which to slam other religions.....not so much a means to refer to scripture itself as a means to understand what is to come.

So, your quite happy to enquire about the mark of the beast and antichrist hailing from Islam, even though the people promoting this have absolutely NO evidence to back their ideas up, but as soon as someone mentions the star of david and Isreal (and actually have plenty of supporting scripture and other evidence to show the occultic nature of the symbol) the thread suddenly becomes a religious slamfest? This is ADL indoctrination. Dont let it blinker you from the obvious truth.

 

[LostSoul]

So, your quite happy to enquire about the mark of the beast and antichrist hailing from Islam, even though the people promoting this have absolutely NO evidence to back their ideas up, but as soon as someone mentions the star of david and Isreal (and actually have plenty of supporting scripture and other evidence to show the occultic nature of the symbol) the thread suddenly becomes a religious slamfest? This is ADL indoctrination. Dont let it blinker you from the obvious truth.

I was asking this because as I have said in another response to this, I had felt it would be something that would stem out of the beliefs of Universalism rather than any ONE RELIGION.

With that being said I am backing out of this thread for I feel this is only going to get worse, my being here or not. It is as I said....I feel it just seems to be a this religion or that religion is going to bear the AntiChrist match.....

 

[Strangelove]

Well....I think you guys are just missing whats going on.

I've been discussing these things all over the forums and yet even when people are presented with irrefutable proof and documentation and scripture to go along with it, they still just cannot let go of the political correctness indoctrination. You guys are just so scared to point the finger and recognise the source.

Ecumenicalism is merging the religions under one banner under the supervision of The Mother of Harlots, who is based in Jerusalem and rules the nations financially, politically, religiously and psychologically through the global zionist movement, freemasonry, it's religious harlot daughters and Hollywood.

The Pope is onboard and the harlot daughter does anything the mother wishes.

Islamic Shriner Freemasonry is onboard and continues this charade of never ending peace talks and puppet Isreal/USA client states. No change there.

The UN is onboard and is actively promoting the Noahide Laws in its member states.

The useful big stick that is America is onboard and the Noahides are part of its public law syatem, ready to be enforced.

Every false doctrine we see in the world today stems from the Christ hating Babylonian Talmud. From New Age to Kaballah to Kundhalini to martial arts to satanism to false science......you name it.

Christion Zionism (driven by the hopelessly lost U.S. charismatic revivalist movement) is a major force in world politics and is ramping up its insane efforts to rebuild the fake 3rd temple in Jerusalem for the coming fake Jewish messiah that will usher in the overt one world government with its answer to the worlds problems which is to get everyone into the Noahide system, the new one world religion.....which is talmudic judaism. The counterfeit judaism.

The worldwide symbol for fake, zionist judaism is the 6 pointed star. The star of Remphan. I've shown that this is probably the most evil, occultic, satanic symbol that there is. It could well be the actual mark of the beast. No one has addressed my posts or refuted anything. Silence.

And yet still.....people just want to take pot shots and try and guess where the antichrist is coming from>>>???

It's so obvious its right in front of your faces people.

But the ADL has done a good job indeed.

 

[Sissy]

But the ADL has done a good job indeed.

I've seen you use this (ADL) before, but I do not know what it stands for.

 

[Jus10]

I don't believe the AC will come from a religion due to the fact that his job will be to deviate people's focus from God to himself.

@Strangelove, I merely said "if" the AC has a religious backround it would be a Jewish on so He has scipture to back up his claims as being the Messiah. To boldy state that everything you say about the subject is very bold. Especially since his job will be to take focus off of Christ's salvation. The problem is that if he does rise from the Jews, the scriptures he indeed focused on might confirm Christ and the Christian faith. So if (and again, big if) he comes from Israel then he needs to be very, vert selective in the verses he chooses.

By not coming out of Israel and teaching "no god" as opposed to "God exist and I'm His Messiah" would more than likely turn Jews away from him. Coming fr no faith will allow the Jews to confirm with their own scriptures who he is claiming to be, he wouldn't have to. I'd be more inclined to think that the False prophet would rise from Israel.

Sorry if this is bunched together with grammatical errors, sent this from my iPhone and didn't get a chance to proof read.

 

[Strangelove]

I don't believe the AC will come from a religion due to the fact that his job will be to deviate people's focus from God to himself.

Correction. His job is to deviate peoples focus from CHRIST.

If you read this thread:

http://www.christianforums.net/f15/talmudic-zionist-noahide-laws-take-hold-u-s-u-n-31432/

You will see that the talmudic fake judaic religion accomplishes this by forcing adherents to its Noahide Laws to renounce Christs name......

.....or its melon go bye bye.

 

[Sissy]

.....or its melon go bye bye.

OUCH!

 

[LostSoul]

Well....I think you guys are just missing whats going on.

I've been discussing these things all over the forums and yet even when people are presented with irrefutable proof and documentation and scripture to go along with it, they still just cannot let go of the political correctness indoctrination. You guys are just so scared to point the finger and recognise the source.

Yet I have asked people to support their views on the Anti Christ coming from Islam or otherwise with scripture and they have yet to do so.....

Scared, hardly. I would rather not point fingers blindly.

With that being said....I am out.

 

[Strangelove]

Yet I have asked people to support their views on the Anti Christ coming from Islam or otherwise with scripture and they have yet to do so.....

Well...the topic is mark of the beast and I've provided plenty of scripture supporting the star of Remphan. If the mark is a zionist symbol and Babylon the Great is in a zionist country then we have a good case that the AC will come out of the zionist movement.

Scared, hardly. I would rather not point fingers blindly.

We can talk about stuff. It's just Cyber-fellowship. We're allowed to do some guessing ya know. Theres no harm done. We're all Christians here. Except Mujahid but he's a nice guy and pretty open minded.

With that being said....I am out.

Thats it then? Oh......ok.........


..................................................................bye.

 

[Strangelove]

In ancient pagan mythology, Saturn ruled over the pre-Flood kingdom of Atlantis and became the divine ancestor of all earthly patriarchs and kings.

"Chronos, or Saturn, Dionysos, Hyperion, Atlas, Hercules, were all connected with 'a great Saturnian continent;' they were kings that ruled over countries on the western shores of the Mediterranean, Africa and Spain. One account says: 'Hyperion, Atlas, and Saturn, or Chronos, were sons of Uranos, who reigned over a great kingdom composed of countries around the western part of the Mediterranean, with certain islands in the Atlantic. Hyperion succeeded his father, and was then killed by the Titans. The kingdom was then divided between Atlas and Saturn --Atlas taking Northern Africa, with the Atlantic islands, and Saturn the countries on the opposite shore of the Mediterranean to Italy and Sicily.' (Baldwin's Prehistoric Nations," p. 357.)...

"The period of Saturn's government was sung in later days by poets as a happy time, when sorrows were unknown, when innocence, freedom, and gladness reigned throughout the land in such a degree as to deserve the title of the Golden Age." (Murray's Mythology," p. 32.)

The Six-Pointed Star is engraved on the Talisman of Saturn which is used in ritual magic.

TALISMAN OF SATURN

"On the first face is engraved...a pentagram or a star with five points. On the other side is engraved a bull's head enclosed in a SIX-POINTED STAR, and surrounded by letters composing the name REMPHA, THE PLANETARY GENIUS OF SATURN, according to the alphabet of the Magi." (Christian, p. 304-5)

 

[Strangelove]

Talismans of the Magi

"Theophrastus Paracelsus revived, in the XVIth century, the ancient doctrine of Talismans, which he claimed to be able to use successfully in the treatment of illnesses and accidents. This medical doctrine, derived from the Cabala, or secret tradition of the Jewish rabbis, was said to be borrowed from the ancient occult sciences of Chaldea and Egypt. The talisman (tsilmenaia) signifies an image, a figure, and was engraved in the form of an emblem or symbol on metals consecrated to the genii of the seven planets. This magical task had to be carried out at a fixed time of a certain day, with the firm intention of attracting to the talisman the beneficent influence of the genius which was invoked, whether for health or any other protective measures...

The Talisman of Saturn
Talisman of Jupiter
The Talisman of Mars
Talisman of the Sun
Talisman of Venus
The Talisman of Mercury
The Talisman of the Moon

"These are the principal Talismans whose traditions have been preserved for us by the most ancient monuments of the highest magical art and by the most reliable archaeologists in this type of research. These talismans are recommended under the name of Teraphim by the Hebrew Qabalists of the Middle Ages, who replace the names of the planetary Genii of Egypt by those of: Oriphiel (REMPHA), Zachariel (Pi-Zeus), Samael (Ertosill), Michael (Pi-Rh3), Anabel (Suroth), Raphael (Pi-Hermes) and Gabriel (Pi-Ioh). These Cabalists add another seven talismans to which they attribute the power of conjuring the influence of seven demons who, according to their doctrine, share with the seven planetary angels the government of the divine creation. Against the angel of Saturn they set the demon Nabam; against the angel of Jupiter the demon Acham; against the angel of Mars the demon Nambroth; against the angel of Venus the demon Lilith or Naemah; against the angel of Mercury the demon Astaroth or Tharthac; and against the angel of the Moon the demon Sathan, See Judges xvii and xviii in the Bible. The Teraphim appear to correspond to the serpent images or seraphim. which in turn are said to derive from the Kabeiri Assyrian divinities worshipped at Hebron (Beni Anak). The Daimons or male spirits of the planets are now given by esoteric students of the Qabala as: Adonai=sun, Evoe=Moon. Saba=Mars, Astaphoi=Mercury, Eloi=Jupiter. Ouraioa=Venus and Ilde-baoth, or according to the Orphites JAHWEH=SATURN."

"Now, the name SATURN in Chaldee is pronounced Satur; but, as every Chaldee scholar knows, consists only of four letters, thus - Stur [ed. Star?]. This name contains exactly the Apocalyptic number." (Hislop, p. 269)

S = 060
T = 400
U = 006
R = 200
= 666

"Sri Aurobindo, a Hindu guru well-known in the New Age affirms that SATURN IS REPRESENTED BY THE NUMBER 6… because the planet Saturn is 6th of the nine planets in distance from the sun." (Marrs: Mystery Mark, p. 68)

Six-Pointed Star: Mark of the Beast - Part 2

 

[Sinthesis]

I see it that way too.



Yes.

Mark 13
(22) For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
​

It would be hard to come close to deceiving the elect if there was not something in his character that made him appear as Christ.

Islam proclaims a false Jesus; follows a false prophet; seemed to conquer the old world miraculously; and deceives billions into believing it stands for peace. Islam is a beast religion, but only one of many. Those who believe its lies (forehead) or follow its doctrines (right hand) bear its mark.

 

[Strangelove]

Islam proclaims a false Jesus; follows a false prophet; seemed to conquer the old world miraculously; and deceives billions into believing it stands for peace. Islam is a beast religion, but only one of many. Those who believe its lies (forehead) or follow its doctrines (right hand) bear its mark.

ALL organized religions are beast religions and harlots. But theres only one mother of harlots.

**disclaimer**

Simple, Biblical faith in Christ is NOT an organized religion

Doc.

 

[Sissy]

Islam proclaims a false Jesus; follows a false prophet; seemed to conquer the old world miraculously; and deceives billions into believing it stands for peace. Islam is a beast religion, but only one of many.

I agree.

Both Islam and Judaism (and even some "Christian" denominations) deny Christ as God, which makes them all anti-christ.

Those who believe its lies (forehead) or follow its doctrines (right hand) bear its mark.

I agree with this also.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I agree.

Both Islam and Judaism (and even some "Christian" denominations) deny Christ as God, which makes them all anti-christ.


I agree with this also.

Sissy,according to John someone who says Christ has not come are antichrist.He didnt say someone who believes Jesus is not God.So according to John's definition of an antichrist it is those who claim the messiah hasnt come.That would be those of judaism,not islam.Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah and it is written in the quran.Muslim dont deny that Jesus is the Christ.

As for the mark of the beast.That mark hasnt been given as yet.
Question.Can you show me where Jesus spoke of that abomination in the gospel when he was speaking of the signs of his coming?

 

[Sissy]

Sissy,according to John someone who says Christ has not come are antichrist.He didnt say someone who believes Jesus is not God.So according to John's definition of an antichrist it is those who claim the messiah hasnt come.That would be those of judaism,not islam.Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah and it is written in the quran.Muslim dont deny that Jesus is the Christ.

That's one way to view it.

Another is that it is only John who uses the word "antichrist".
And it is John who opens his gospel with making the point that Jesus was God and became flesh.

So the way I view John's comments on who is antichrist is to directly tie into his opening statements of who Jesus is.

Since John started his gospel with who Jesus was (God in the flesh), then it is reasonable to assume that every place after wards that John speaks of Jesus, he is referring to God in the flesh.

I see it as John stressing the fact that believing that Jesus came in the flesh = believing that God came in the flesh, because that is the main premise that he started his gospel message with.


Not to say your view is wrong.
Just another way to view what John is saying.

 

[smaller]

That's one way to view it.

Another is that it is only John who uses the word "antichrist".
And it is John who opens his gospel with making the point that Jesus was God and became flesh.

So the way I view John's comments on who is antichrist is to directly tie into his opening statements of who Jesus is.

Since John started his gospel with who Jesus was (God in the flesh), then it is reasonable to assume that every place after wards that John speaks of Jesus, he is referring to God in the flesh.

I see it as John stressing the fact that believing that Jesus came in the flesh = believing that God came in the flesh, because that is the main premise that he started his gospel message with.


Not to say your view is wrong.
Just another way to view what John is saying.

John penned those Words by The Holy Spirit, CAREfully stated in the PRESENT TENSE:

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Not CAME....IS COME.

Romans 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST was here LONG before THE FLESH BODY of JESUS:


1 Peter 1:
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

enjoy!

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