Mary, the mother of the Lord

[KV-44-v1]

Compare Psalm 2:7 with Hebrews 1:5 and Psalm 110:1 with Hebrews 1:13 and see if you believe it. YHWH = God and Jesus = Son. In plain and clear english Jesus isn't God.

math PROVES the Trinity.

0.333333 one third, INFINITE three!
0.66.... INFINITE 6!
but, 3 thirds, ONE! 1!
not infinite 0.9999 nines, but ONE ONE!!
UNITARIANISM DEMOLISHED BY MATH!!

 

[KV-44-v1]

There are THREE spatial dimensions humans live in. 1d, line dim. 2d, plane dim. and 3d, solids dim. And i think time just controls the three.
There are THREE time points, PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, all these make up the ONE time continuum.
There are THREE aspects of ONE HUMAN: body, soul, spirit.

There are many triples of 3 in 1.
Unitarianism SMASHED by many 3 in 1's!!

 

[KV-44-v1]

According to the Bible, CREATION GLORIFIES GOD. so expect to see 3's in 1's all around!
Unitarian math would be impossible and illogical!

 

[KV-44-v1]

Compare Psalm 2:7 with Hebrews 1:5 and Psalm 110:1 with Hebrews 1:13 and see if you believe it. YHWH = God and Jesus = Son. In plain and clear english Jesus isn't God.

Tell me, why is the number of man 6 and not 2?
if unitarian is correct it should be 2.

 

[KV-44-v1]

""Regarding Psalm 2:7 and Hebrews 1:5, the Trinitarian view would see this as affirming the Divine Sonship of Jesus, suggesting a distinct yet unified relationship between the Father and the Son. The Unitarian view would likely see this as simply referring to Jesus' unique status as the Messiah or adopted Son of God, without necessarily equating Him as fully Divine.

With Psalm 110:1 and Hebrews 1:13, the Trinitarian view would see this as further evidence of Jesus' Divine status, sitting at the right hand of God. The Unitarian faith belief may see this as Jesus being exalted to a position of honor and authority, without necessarily being God Himself.""
so whos right??

 

[KV-44-v1]

and how come the early church widely believed in the Trinity? because the Bible taught it.

and the more time goes on the more the devil infects and invades the world. people be believing things like evilution ,big bang, millions years old earth/universe, etc.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Verse?

Colossians 2:9 ESV​

For in [H]im the whole fullness of [D]eity dwells bodily
Obviously, the final logical conslusion of uniism is denying God's omnipotence.

Verse?

Luke 1:37 ESV​

For nothing will be impossible with God.”

Verse?

see above.

John 1:1 ESV​

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ing for scripture. Thanks.

 

[Runningman]

Not really, in traditional translations of KJV and NKJV it reads "today I have begotten you", the title "father" is not used.

So what you're saying is that if it's not the translation of your preferred manuscript then you reject it? Shouldn't you be more responsible with something as important as this? The Bible has many source manuscripts and they say varying, sometimes even contradictory, things. We should do our diligence here not be hyperliteralists where it suits us while being willfully blind where it's convenient.

 

[Runningman]

wrong. almost nobody here but you thinks that means Jesus isn't God.

Take Psalm 110:1, for example, where the LORD said to David's Lord. There is a change in person where one is speaking to another. You would have us believe God is having a conversation with Himself? How you would think I am the only one who would not agree with you is reaching.

WHO was sinless Who walked on the earth?

Who was tempted even though God can't be tempted?

 

[Runningman]

not a single time did i deny Jesus' human nature, its you who deny HIS DIVINE NATURE!
again, false dicotomy. 100% GOD 100% man. your worldview is tunnel vision.

JESUS IS THE LAMB OF GOD. HOW CAN THIS BE IF HE ISNT GOD?

You're saying Jesus is God and man. Now show the verses that say so. If you can't then you are just speaking your opinion.

On the other hand. Acts 2:22-24 is plain that Jesus is a man who was sacrificed according to God's will. Why you can't accept the Messiah is because you don't understand who he is and what he accomplished. Do you know what sin sacrifices were in Judaism? They were using animals for forgiveness of sins in Leviticus 4:20. If the death of an animal can forgive sins, how much more a sinless man?

 

[Runningman]

evidence of the trinity!! ALL THREE PERSONS!
how does this make sense in unitarianam?? IT DOESNT!! Unitarinsm is 100% man made and was intended to let natural man be ""able"" to be a Christian.

It means that Jesus isn't God and is given temporary Lordship to do what God is allowing him to do. After a point, when all of his enemies are under his feet, he will be "made subject" to God again. God will be all in all means that all authority will belong to God again, but that isn't to say God is below Jesus or that they are equals.

Read the New Testament. Who gave Jesus all of his power and authority?

 

[Runningman]

and how come the early church widely believed in the Trinity? because the Bible taught it.

and the more time goes on the more the devil infects and invades the world. people be believing things like evilution ,big bang, millions years old earth/universe, etc.

No one in the Bible believed in the Trinity. The earliest Unitarians would have been Jewish converts to Christianity and the Ebionites. I don't agree with many things the Ebionities say, but nevertheless they were Unitarian in their understanding of God. These groups predate Trinitarianism by millenia.

 

[Runningman]

Colossians 2:9 ESV​

For in [H]im the whole fullness of [D]eity dwells bodily
Obviously, the final logical conslusion of uniism is denying God's omnipotence.

Same thing applies to normal Christians:

Ephesians 3
19of the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

Luke 1:37 ESV​

For nothing will be impossible with God.”

Just because nothing is impossible with God doesn't mean He does everything. For example, God wouldn't perpetuate idolatry by making a creature into God. Jesus is a human, God is invisible.

Colossians 1
15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

1 Timothy 1
17Now to the King eternal, immortal, and invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

see above.

John 1:1 ESV​

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ing for scripture. Thanks.

What's your workaround for 1 John 1:1-3 calling the Word a thing?

1 John 1
1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our own eyes, which we have gazed upon and touched with our own hands—this is the Word of life. 2And this is the life that was revealed; we have seen it and testified to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was revealed to us.

3We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And this fellowship of ours is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ.

 

[Runningman]

math PROVES the Trinity.

0.333333 one third, INFINITE three!
0.66.... INFINITE 6!
but, 3 thirds, ONE! 1!
not infinite 0.9999 nines, but ONE ONE!!
UNITARIANISM DEMOLISHED BY MATH!!

Check your numbers. No one ever called God a three.

Mark 12
29Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One.

 

[Runningman]

There are THREE spatial dimensions humans live in. 1d, line dim. 2d, plane dim. and 3d, solids dim. And i think time just controls the three.
There are THREE time points, PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, all these make up the ONE time continuum.
There are THREE aspects of ONE HUMAN: body, soul, spirit.

There are many triples of 3 in 1.
Unitarianism SMASHED by many 3 in 1's!!

false equivalence fallacy.

 

[Runningman]

According to the Bible, CREATION GLORIFIES GOD. so expect to see 3's in 1's all around!
Unitarian math would be impossible and illogical!

Let me introduce you to Genesis.

Genesis 2
4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD[singular] God made them.

 

[Runningman]

Tell me, why is the number of man 6 and not 2?
if unitarian is correct it should be 2.

Strawman argument. I never proposed such a thing and not really sure what you're talking about. If you have a point then burden of proof is on you to make a case.

 

[Runningman]

""Regarding Psalm 2:7 and Hebrews 1:5, the Trinitarian view would see this as affirming the Divine Sonship of Jesus, suggesting a distinct yet unified relationship between the Father and the Son. The Unitarian view would likely see this as simply referring to Jesus' unique status as the Messiah or adopted Son of God, without necessarily equating Him as fully Divine.

With Psalm 110:1 and Hebrews 1:13, the Trinitarian view would see this as further evidence of Jesus' Divine status, sitting at the right hand of God. The Unitarian faith belief may see this as Jesus being exalted to a position of honor and authority, without necessarily being God Himself.""
so whos right??

Just compare the Old Testament with what the New Testament says. YHWH speaking to Jesus in prophecy in the Old Testament is said to be God speaking to the Son in the New Testament. Jesus' God and Father is known as YHWH according to Scripture.

 

[Runningman]

and how come the early church widely believed in the Trinity? because the Bible taught it.

and the more time goes on the more the devil infects and invades the world. people be believing things like evilution ,big bang, millions years old earth/universe, etc.

The early church widely believed in Unitarianism, i.e., Arianism. Arianism was just as abundant as Trinitarianism at the time the Bible was being canonized.

 

[LeviR]

No one in the Bible believed in the Trinity. The earliest Unitarians would have been Jewish converts to Christianity and the Ebionites. I don't agree with many things the Ebionities say, but nevertheless they were Unitarian in their understanding of God. These groups predate Trinitarianism by millenia.

You’re right, no one knew of a Trinity in Scripture. And Jesus was not a Trinitarian. He told us his God was the Father, his Father.