Matt.23

[farouk]

yet sometimes the supposed tithing obligation

Are there some here that see tithing as a NT obligation?

@Edward : Those who would argue this way can speak for themselves, but then my comment would be that it is important to distinguish between Israel and the church, and Old and New Testaments. A plurality of fellow helpers to the truth in the local church (e.g., as in Acts 20, where Paul charges the Ephesian elders) did not automatically and through the silence of Scripture inherit the Levitical prerogatives to collect Israelite tithes.

I would also argue that if people want to give a tenth, or more than a tenth, of their income as freewill offerings, then they can indeed do so. But in New Testament giving, liberty rules, not law.

Blessings.

 

[Sparkey]

Are there some here that see tithing as a NT obligation?

I am reminded of the "duty kiss" that one might give their grandmother --something to be endured after the pinch of the cheek, right?

But that is not the heart that our Father would have for us. The Lord loves a cheerful giver.

 

[Deborah13]

between Israel

From everything I've read that rabbis say, Jews don't tithe either. They don't have the Levites or the High Priest.

 

[jasoncran]

[MENTION=93058]Deborah13[/MENTION], actually what many temples do is close to what I would call club dues. one must pay that to stay a member of the temple as in membership. I find that disgusting.

 

[Deborah13]

[MENTION=93058]Deborah13[/MENTION], actually what many temples do is close to what I would call club dues. one must pay that to stay a member of the temple as in membership. I find that disgusting.

What I read was that they pay for their seat. The more wealthy will often help pay for someone else. This is to maintain the building and I think pay the Rabbi. And then their children's religious education costs, count. And then charities of their choice. They're encouraged not to give more than 20%.

 

[jasoncran]

not many average americans could afford 1500 dollars a year to just to be able to go to the temple.

 

[ejected]

Someone said that Matt.23 reminds them of our government. News flash: these were the religious leaders, the best dressed, seated in the high position, demanding tithes, recognized as special. Is it any different today?

Someone mentioned a free will offering of ten percent. The moment you push the point of a percentage onto folks, is is no longer free will.
Someone mentioned knowing an old lady who was poor and tithed and died. I say she would have been more blessed if she didn't tithe. Paul said to give according to what you have, not according to what you don't have. He also said in Gal. That if you place yourself under the law, you have fallen from grace. If you don't keep the whole law, you could be putting yourself under a curse. I lived it. I found out.
Besides part of the old covenant tithe was used to support the poor and the widow. It got turned around by crafty greedy men.

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