[__ Science __ ] Millions Injured By Covid Vaccine

[JLB]

They do not love Him very much, that I grant you.

Ok

 

[Dorothy Mae]

All the people, mainly liberals, who sit in front of their television sets and open their mind to the spiritual sewer of the world, and having been deceived into taking these so called "vaccines" that the world is pushing are now dying by the thousands everyday, as the vaccine mutates in their system.

I feel for the families of the men who operate this way.


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15



JLB

JLB,

That is not the main way people were convinced to take the jabs. Many were threatened with losing their jobs and lost their jobs. Many were threatened in other ways. They wept as they agreed to the jabs as they would otherwise have no income and that fear was greater. Fear was definitely employed at all levels, not reason. But the TV was not the only way. Not everyone is that gullible.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I agree.

It's called witchcraft. That is what the media is promoting.

Fear is used to control the masses.

This is what witchcraft is used for; controling people.

The perfect love of God casts out all fear.

There is no fear of death in love.

If you don't agree then so be it.



JLB

This lack of fear is what we saw in the friends of Daniel and Daniel himself. It is was we saw in the New Testament church who loves their lives NOT. Jesus said continually FEAR NOT. There is a reason and the change in people, even believers, who feared was astounding to watch. It was really astounding. Fear stayed with them and seemed to own them in a way that was not before. It was a mighty weapon of the enemy and it was the opposite of the fear of God.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

As I pointed out, you are very fearful of the vaccines, so you would do well to refrain from this hypocritical argument. But, not only are you being hypocritical, it is the less justifiable fear, since the vaccines are significantly more dangerous than getting COVID.

I almost laughed out loud. I am not in the least afraid of vaccines and got a tetanus a few months ago.

I am fully informed as to what injections can lead to which was highlighted the first time I started reading patient reports where the doctors made a point of mentioning that the new afflicted had received the flu vaccine 3-4 months previously. This was 10 years ago. Letter after letter mentioned that they had recently received these injections. Then I noticed that all the young doctors refused to take the flu shot themselves. Hummmm. Were they afraid because they knew something?

No, same as me. But you like to attack personally as I said. This is not the first time. You move from "I disagree" to "you are (insert personally insulting character attack)." This is not the first time and I am not the first one. This is a weakness.

Quite a number of people during the course of the pandemic have touted the benefits of certain vitamins, minerals, and other natural things as protection from COVID or protection from a severe outcome. Some of them had platforms and made these claims quite loudly, but then subsequently got COVID and died.

And many who got the jabs and touted the benefits of the jabs subsequently got Covid and died. Fully immunized and boosted.

 

[God Is My Judge]

Apart from risk of death of a child, are developmental issues;

"After accounting for preterm delivery, the odds of a neurodevelopmental diagnosis were still 86% greater in children of infected moms, suggesting that the relation between COVID infection during pregnancy and neurodevelopmental risk in the child is not merely a reflection of more preterm births."

https://www.bbrfoundation.org/conte...ncy-had-increased-risk-developmental-disorder

Again, mainstream links. I already established the majority rule. For those who have passed the litmus test (the few) they have shown to have good discernment. However, the trial is not over soooooo, who will prevail.....the few!

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Again, mainstream links. I already established the majority rule. For those who have passed the litmus test (the few) they have shown to have good discernment. However, the trial is not over soooooo, who will prevail.....the few!

The tragedy of majority controls the media is those who experience devastating ill effects from the jabs are not taken seriously. This adds to their pain. Some of them just want others to acknowledge that the jabs did what they experienced although in other injections, there is an avenue for financial help as adverse reactions do occur. In the Covid jabs this has not been the case although I heard that now, 2 years later, some relief is available when the majority have already complied and they can afford to acknowledge that the jabs did damage.

 

[Free]

Why would you speak against me because I desire to follow the instructions of Jesus Christ?

That isn't the issue and you know it. Please stop twisting what other people say to try and make it look like you're in the right. It's immature and you're only fooling yourself.

 

[Free]

Again, mainstream links.

Fallacious argument.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Fallacious argument.

This is a typical but unproven response, a favorite tactic of yours.

 

[Free]

I almost laughed out loud. But as I said, you are fond of the ad hominem argument insulting those who disagree with you. I am not in the least afraid of vaccines and got a tetanus a few months ago.

You are often claiming ad hominem arguments when there are none. Why is that? And, once again, you are not thinking things through rationally. Context always matters, and in the context of this discussion, about COVID vaccines, when I said that "you are very fearful of the vaccines," I am very clearly meaning the COVID vaccines, not tetanus or flu or any other vaccine. You are afraid of the COVID vaccines, so you would do well to stop being hypocritical and saying that only those who got vaccinated are fearful. And, again, fear of COVID is far more justifiable than fear of the vaccines.

No, same as me. But you like to attack personally as I said. This is not the first time. You move from "I disagree" to "you are (insert personally insulting character attack)." This is not the first time and I am not the first one. This is a weakness.

Firstly, you also engage in personal attacks. Secondly, I have not personally attacked you in the above posts. You are saying those got vaccinated against COVID are being fearful, but you are fearful of the vaccines, which is hypocrisy; I simply pointed it out.

And many who got the jabs and touted the benefits of the jabs subsequently got Covid and died. Fully immunized and boosted.

That is not my argument and something I have never denied. The data is very clear that being fully vaccinated significantly reduces the chance of a severe outcome, hospitalization, and death over being unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.

 

[Free]

This is a typical but unproven response, a favorite tactic of yours.

It doesn't need to be proven; it is self-evident to those who understand logic and critical thinking.

 

[JLB]

Many were threatened with losing their jobs and lost their jobs.

Yes I'm aware.

 

[JLB]

That isn't the issue and you know it.

To me it's the issue.

The vaccine is killing people in great numbers and you seem to keep promoting this evil agenda, even after I have given you the truth from Jesus Christ.

 

[JLB]

It was a mighty weapon of the enemy and it was the opposite of the fear of God.

Amen!

 

[JLB]

That isn't the issue and you know it. Please stop twisting what other people say to try and make it look like you're in the right. It's immature and you're only fooling yourself.

I'm involved in a discussion in this thread.

I don't agree with you or your perspective.

I have given you scripture and you have chosen to reject it.


So be it.



JLB

 

[Free]

To me it's the issue.

The vaccine is killing people in great numbers and you seem to keep promoting this evil agenda, even after I have given you the truth from Jesus Christ.

Let me clarify: You know that that wasn't the issue I was specifically addressing, which was your hypocrisy in calling others fearful.

I'm involved in a discussion in this thread.

For now.

I don't agree with you or your perspective.

I have given you scripture and you have chosen to reject it.


So be it.

Reject scripture? No, you are mistaken. I showed how you are misusing it and twisting it to support your position. I reject your proof-text interpretation of Scripture.

 

[for_his_glory]

Free, JLB Dorothy Mae if you noticed I deleted some of you remarks made against each other. Respect that of what others say even if you do not agree as derogatory remarks should never be made against another member. Covid threads always brings the worst out in each other and guard the words you speak. If any of you have a problem with this please take it to TWTS.

 

[Barbarian]

Deaths are serious and tragic, of course, but the data is mounting regarding a number of other serious, life-changing, and potentially lifelong negative effects of having had COVID.

We still don't know what the long-term effects of the "long-hauler" patients will be. Hopefully, most of them will recover over a few years. But we just don't know.

 

[God Is My Judge]

Fallacious argument.

Mistaken belief? Ahhh you are speaking the path most trodden like that is a no-brainer. The majority rule principle, hello???

 

[Barbarian]

Throughout the pandemic, the anti-choice people continually argued to that only the number of deaths count, not that the majority were over 70 years old as though the death of 80 year olds is the same as the death of young men and women in their 20s. This they repeatedly ignore. If one looked at the numbers published, 1% maximum of the people contracting Covid died.

About 1.08 million of us. About one American in every 320 Americans died of COVID-19, but that is a major undercount:

Between 2020 and 2021, about 1 million more Americans died than in normal non-pandemic years. But only 800,000 of those excess deaths have been attributed to COVID-19, which public health experts say suggests a massive undercount.
An investigation by Documenting COVID-19 and the USA Today Network revealed that inaccurate death certificates filed across the country are hiding the pandemic's true death toll.

New investigation finds massive undercount of COVID-19 death toll in U.S.

An investigation by Documenting COVID-19 and the USA Today Network revealed that inaccurate death certificates filed across the country are hiding the pandemic's true death toll.

www.wbur.org

Some states refused to give tests to coroners. So if someone died of COVID-19 at home, they weren't counted. And there were other problems.

Covid died. If one looks at the long-term effects of the flu in the years before Covid, one sees those effects in people where no Covid was involved and those effects are quite similar.

You really, really got that wrong. From 2021:

61,000 people died in the worst flu season of the past decade. COVID-19 has killed eight times that many.​

How many people die from the flu?

Around 61,000 people died from influenza in the 2017-2018 flu season, the most in the last 10 years. Almost 529,000 people have died of COVID-19 as of mid-March.

usafacts.org

Now, it's closer to an average of about 9 times as many per year.

The avalanche of effects since the jabs were introduced are ignored.

For the same way the boogeyman is ignored.