[__ Science __ ] Millions Injured By Covid Vaccine

[Barbarian]

To your point "Most Christians don't believe that" clearly! Hence, my point about the sower.You all fell asleep.

Rather, Christians heard what Jesus said, we try to live it. As I said, your new doctrines are not a salvation issue unless you make an idol of them, and insist that other Christians must believe them. Don't do that to yourself.

o your last point; if you loved God you would not be promoting abortion laden shots

Please. I you loved God you would not be promoting lies like that. I suspect that you are so indoctrinated that you don't even know that these are lies. But they are. You have it exactly backwards, and in spreading those lies, you are putting expectant mothers at risk.

PLoS One 2021 Aug 11;16(8)

COVID-19 and cause of pregnancy loss during the pandemic: A systematic review ​

Conclusions: There is an increased risk of abortion in mothers with a positive test result of SARS-CoV-2, which several case reports and case series have identified during the pandemic. Placental inflammation during the viral infection may result in fetal growth retardation and induce abortion. There has not been any consistent evidence of vertical transmission of the virus from mother to fetus, which requires further investigation.

If you love God, you should not encourage mothers to put their unborn children at risk. And that is what you are doing. And it wasn't me who told you about love; those were Jesus' words. You should listen to Him, and act on it.

 

[God Is My Judge]

It is essentially too late to get good information any more. In the beginning honest scientists and doctors saw problems with the jabs and what they predicted, if you could get the information at that time (available for months), has happened.

I do not have a PhD and I saw the problems in the narrative early on. It did not match known science. It just didn't. One can find now clips of the government saying the 100% opposite of what CDC promised when the jabs were released (get the jabs and you won't get sick, we never said get the jabs and you won't get sick, get the jabs and you won't end up in the hospital, well, we never promised you won't end up in the hospital, just you won't die.) I read the information as to what those jabs do from uncensored scientists and then from the government and the government version was way watered down. They had a great PR and marketing company. The only amazing thing is people still defend the government and the only rational explanation is that they themselves got many jabs and cannot afford to admit it was a big mistake. That takes a lot of honesty. The spirit of fear has them too strongly for that.

Who had great PR, the government or the CDC? Is it your opinion that only certain people in government knew and most did not know what was actually going on? For instance Trump's midnight tweet saying "Cov fe fe enjoy!", that everyone was talking about, asking was Trump ok, was he up too late etc...... Smart folks got it ! Then came Covid and fe fe - the iron oxide also called graphine or graphite has been found in the shots. Coincidence? Highly unlikely. But now there is all kinds of damage control saying it was a mistweet or mispelling of something else. That damage control only began when the mainstream caught wind of what people like me pointed out.

" Pride goes before a fall". Point is they love to tell their plans ahead of time. They feel they are the smart kids in the room. Couple that tweet with Daniel and the 4th kingdom which is like iron and clay that does not mix. We being made from the clay of the earth and Klaus Shwabb 's Human 2.0 merging biology and technology and changing people gentically is biblical fulfillment. He calls it the Fourth Industrial Age. Daniel also calls it the 4th Creature with claws of bronze and teeth of iron. You can't make this stuff up. Look it up.
The Bronze Claws represent the damage China will do to the world. China was known as a nation of bronze due to its skill at making bronze implements.The nation of Iron is Russia known for the Iron curtain which broke apart. They are part of the Fourth Creature- which is simply a morphed kingdom of many nations conspiring together against God and His anointed.China and Russia will lay desolate the earth. But Russia is more powerful than China because Iron is stronger than bronze. Russia is the kingdom of the north and China the kingdom of the south. The Head that controls the narative-Russia is close with. Hence, the Iron Teeth are instruments closest to the head. China has been used by the Head but is not as closely connected. China is to be blamed for the Covid agenda. China was a co-conspirator however, was not the master mind. Xi was promised a land -America but it is not going to go as promised. He therefore, will go out and engage the Man of Sin in war. The king of the north interestingly enough goes out to stop him. Wonder why? Must be that close relationship with the head. Then he makes his camp outside of Israel. Watch! I'll put a full break down of the kingdoms with proof of what I say concerning players. It won't be stopped, the seals have already started to be opened.

 

[God Is My Judge]

Rather, Christians heard what Jesus said, we try to live it. As I said, your new doctrines are not a salvation issue unless you make an idol of them, and insist that other Christians must believe them. Don't do that to yourself.


Please. I you loved God you would not be promoting lies like that. I suspect that you are so indoctrinated that you don't even know that these are lies. But they are. You have it exactly backwards, and in spreading those lies, you are putting expectant mothers at risk.

PLoS One 2021 Aug 11;16(8)

COVID-19 and cause of pregnancy loss during the pandemic: A systematic review ​

Conclusions: There is an increased risk of abortion in mothers with a positive test result of SARS-CoV-2, which several case reports and case series have identified during the pandemic. Placental inflammation during the viral infection may result in fetal growth retardation and induce abortion. There has not been any consistent evidence of vertical transmission of the virus from mother to fetus, which requires further investigation.

If you love God, you should not encourage mothers to put their unborn children at risk. And that is what you are doing. And it wasn't me who told you about love; those were Jesus' words. You should listen to Him, and act on it.

Lol! You do you! God contend with you! " It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God and His wrath".

 

[Barbarian]

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God and His wrath".

It is why you should stop telling pregnant women to put their unborn at risk. As you see, if they go unvaccinated, they are much more likely to lose their baby. Do you really want to do that?

 

[God Is My Judge]

It is why you should stop telling pregnant women to put their unborn at risk. As you see, if they go unvaccinated, they are much more likely to lose their baby. Do you really want to do that?

Lol! Whatever brings you comfort in this temporal existence. Go big or go home! Right?
I remember this sweet and strong nun I met as a child. She took a liking to me being a Shulammite and all, amidst a white ocean. Kids were stealing things, little things. She said "does the one who steals small have a different judgement than the one who steals big? Stealing is stealing, you die a thief -big or petty you enter not the kingdom of heaven. So, if you must steal ( I warn you not to) but if you must, better really make it worth your wiled, because here is the only place were you will have tempral reprieve from the fires of hell, go big or go home!" Guess going big?

 

[Free]

Lol! Whatever brings you comfort in this temporal existence. Go big or go home! Right?
I remember this sweet and strong nun I met as a child. She took a liking to me being a Shulammite and all, amidst a white ocean. Kids were stealing things, little things. She said "does the one who steals small have a different judgement than the one who steals big? Stealing is stealing, you die a thief -big or petty you enter not the kingdom of heaven. So, if you must steal ( I warn you not to) but if you must, better really make it worth your wiled, because here is the only place were you will have tempral reprieve from the fires of hell, go big or go home!" Guess going big?

Apart from risk of death of a child, are developmental issues;

"After accounting for preterm delivery, the odds of a neurodevelopmental diagnosis were still 86% greater in children of infected moms, suggesting that the relation between COVID infection during pregnancy and neurodevelopmental risk in the child is not merely a reflection of more preterm births."

https://www.bbrfoundation.org/conte...ncy-had-increased-risk-developmental-disorder

 

[Free]

That’s the only verse I have quoted that relates to Covid Vaccine.


You seem confused.

Why are you intent on playing these dishonest, immature games? If you think it makes you look clever, it doesn't; it does the opposite. You're fooling no one but yourself. You posted two verses in this thread (in the context of vaccines and fear of them) and those are what I addressed. You then replied with a different verse, for some strange reason, and now claim that was the only verse you quoted regarding the vaccines. That is dishonest and a very poor attempt to deflect from your hypocrisy and misuse of 2 Timothy 1:7 and Romans 8:15, ironically by posting another misuse of Scripture.

No, I am certainly not confused.

 

[JLB]

So you quote the Bible that we did not receive a spirit of fear but have no trouble with christians being deathly afraid of a virus?

I don't see how you came to this conclusion from my posts, since my intent is exactly the opposite.

Christians who are filled with the Spirit, are filled with the love of the Father, and have no fear because perfect love, the love of the Father casts out all fear.

Christians who sit in front of a TV and let the main stream media pollute their mind with the narrative of the world, which causes their mind and heart to become a spiritual sewer, are indeed filled with fear because they have made themselves enemies of God, having their eyes darkened they stumble in confusion and fear, because they no longer have the love of the Father in them.


Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. James 4:4


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:15


JLB

 

[Free]

So you quote the Bible that we did not receive a spirit of fear but have no trouble with christians being deathly afraid of a virus? I think they have indeed received a spirit of fear despite that fact that God did not give it.

I am a very practical person and compare real life to what the Bible describes as to the kind of beings we are. When I see christians being afraid of that which they ought not to be afraid of (the early christians were so NOT afraid that they were not afraid of giving their lives in what they believed), then I KNOW that they have listened to man and embraced fear. They are so afraid that they refuse to assemble themselves together despite the command to do so. There are churches who refused to refuse to assemble and God rewarded this and in one case, the whole nation benefited from believers standing up to wrong.)

As I pointed out, you are very fearful of the vaccines, so you would do well to refrain from this hypocritical argument. But, not only are you being hypocritical, it is the less justifiable fear, since the vaccines are significantly more dangerous than getting COVID.

It was somewhat delightful to learn about the "leaves" or plants or natural things one can take that prevent some illnesses. I come from traditional medicine both privately and from my education and I was quite surprised by some simple wisdom that natural elements can do in reducing inflammation, as you say, God given healing elements. I thought it was the kindness and blessing of God He put in the natural world for our benefit.

Quite a number of people during the course of the pandemic have touted the benefits of certain vitamins, minerals, and other natural things as protection from COVID or protection from a severe outcome. Some of them had platforms and made these claims quite loudly, but then subsequently got COVID and died.

 

[JLB]

Why are you intent on playing these dishonest, immature games?

Why do you reject the words of Jesus Christ, in favor of the narrative of the world?

Do you believe Jesus Christ is speaking the plain and clear truth?

Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.

Here's another one for you --


Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
James 5:14-15

Why do you persuade your brothers and sisters in Christ to disobey the Lord?


Why do you turn people away from the truth to the instructions of the world?


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:15


JLB

 

[JLB]

As I pointed out, you are very fearful of the vaccines, so you would do well to refrain from this hypocritical argument.

She wants not part of this world, or the sorcery of this world.


JLB

 

[Free]

She wants not part of this world, or the sorcery of this world.


JLB

It doesn't explain yours or her hypocrisy.

 

[Barbarian]

It is why you should stop telling pregnant women to put their unborn at risk. As you see, if they go unvaccinated, they are much more likely to lose their baby. Do you really want to do that?

Lol! Whatever brings you comfort in this temporal existence. Go big or go home! Right?

So the lives of the unborn don't matter to you. Got it.

I remember this sweet and strong nun I met as a child. She took a liking to me being a Shulammite and all, amidst a white ocean. Kids were stealing things, little things. She said "does the one who steals small have a different judgement than the one who steals big? Stealing is stealing, you die a thief -big or petty you enter not the kingdom of heaven. So, if you must steal ( I warn you not to) but if you must, better really make it worth your wiled, because here is the only place were you will have tempral reprieve from the fires of hell, go big or go home!" Guess going big?

Putting the lives of the unborn at risk by telling moms not to get vaccinated would qualify as "going big " as sins go. Doesn't seem like much of a justification to me, but if you do it, yes, there will be a judgement.

 

[Barbarian]

Apart from risk of death of a child, are developmental issues;

"After accounting for preterm delivery, the odds of a neurodevelopmental diagnosis were still 86% greater in children of infected moms, suggesting that the relation between COVID infection during pregnancy and neurodevelopmental risk in the child is not merely a reflection of more preterm births."

https://www.bbrfoundation.org/conte...ncy-had-increased-risk-developmental-disorder

Yes. It's not just a risk of the child dying. Good point.

 

[Free]

Yes. It's not just a risk of the child dying. Good point.

Throughout the pandemic, all the anti-vaxx/anti-mandate people continually argued to deaths, as though that was the only metric worth considering. They completely, and conveniently, ignored all the data about other adverse effects from COVID, as well as the burden on healthcare systems and the avalanche of effects that had for people with non-COVID issues.

Deaths are serious and tragic, of course, but the data is mounting regarding a number of other serious, life-changing, and potentially lifelong negative effects of having had COVID.

 

[JLB]

It doesn't explain yours or her hypocrisy.

Why would you speak against me because I desire to follow the instructions of Jesus Christ?



JLB

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I don't see how you came to this conclusion from my posts, since my intent is exactly the opposite.

Christians who are filled with the Spirit, are filled with the love of the Father, and have no fear because perfect love, the love of the Father casts out all fear.

Christians who sit in front of a TV and let the main stream media pollute their mind with the narrative of the world, which causes their mind and heart to become a spiritual sewer, are indeed filled with fear because they have made themselves enemies of God, having their eyes darkened they stumble in confusion and fear, because they no longer have the love of the Father in them.


Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. James 4:4


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:15


JLB

Dear JLB,

I don't come to my conclusions from your post. I come to them by comparing your theory to real life. I am trained as a scientist and I test theories in real life. It does not follow that those who are afraid do not have any of the love of God. It just is not so. We also do not find that when the early church needed courage that they prayed and received the love of God. That was not the answer to fear.

Almost all of the people I know and maybe all of them, got the jabs because of fear. Some fear of the virus, some fear of losing out on the nice amenities of life, but fear was the reason. They did not know enough about what they were received to be a matter of wisdom or caution. It was fear plain. The emotional response to those who doubted, hatred, shows that fear, a very strong emotion, was at the base for their compliance.

Now those I know who toke the jabs in the church, they have a love of God. I know them. They worship and love him to some degree. They do not love Him very much, that I grant you. This is very very obvious by the choices they make same as it is easy to tell if a man or a woman love another person. One can see this by their choices. Some love much, some love little as compared to their love for themselves and their own well-being or even pleasure.

So I do not respond as I do because of what you say per se. It is because I apply it to real life and your theory does not match entered. The love of God is not totally absent in those who have feared not to take the jabs. It is not that simple.

 

[JLB]

Throughout the pandemic, all the anti-vaxx/anti-mandate people continually argued to deaths, as though that was the only metric worth considering. They completely, and conveniently, ignored all the data about other adverse effects from COVID, as well as the burden on healthcare systems and the avalanche of effects that had for people with non-COVID issues.

Deaths are serious and tragic, of course, but the data is mounting regarding a number of other serious, life-changing, and potentially lifelong negative effects of having had COVID.

All the people, mainly liberals, who sit in front of their television sets and open their mind to the spiritual sewer of the world, and having been deceived into taking these so called "vaccines" that the world is pushing are now dying by the thousands everyday, as the vaccine mutates in their system.

I feel for the families of the men who operate this way.


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15



JLB

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Throughout the pandemic, all the anti-vaxx/anti-mandate people continually argued to deaths, as though that was the only metric worth considering. They completely, and conveniently, ignored all the data about other adverse effects from COVID, as well as the burden on healthcare systems and the avalanche of effects that had for people with non-COVID issues.

Deaths are serious and tragic, of course, but the data is mounting regarding a number of other serious, life-changing, and potentially lifelong negative effects of having had COVID.

Throughout the pandemic, the anti-choice people continually argued to that only the number of deaths count, not that the majority were over 70 years old as though the death of 80 year olds is the same as the death of young men and women in their 20s. This they repeatedly ignore. If one looked at the numbers published, 1% maximum of the people contracting Covid died. If one looks at the long-term effects of the flu in the years before Covid, one sees those effects in people where no Covid was involved and those effects are quite similar. The avalanche of effects since the jabs were introduced are ignored. If one looks at the statistic of hospitals in flu season, one sees similar burdens on some hospitals. The hospitals in our country were empty and in no way burdened. They lost a ton of money because all normal medical matters were ignored or refused treatment and few covid patients came in. I believe the ICU was about 60% capacity in the entire state even at the peak.

 

[JLB]

Almost all of the people I know and maybe all of them, got the jabs because of fear.

I agree.

It's called witchcraft. That is what the media is promoting.

Fear is used to control the masses.

This is what witchcraft is used for; controling people.

The perfect love of God casts out all fear.

There is no fear of death in love.

If you don't agree then so be it.



JLB