Bible Study Mind Control

[Soul man]

The mind had to be a controller, and will remain so after the new birth until mind renewal begins to take place.
The sin nature had to have mind control over it, the oldman (sin nature) could become compatible with the mind without it, this is what Paul calls a reprobate mind.

So with the mind I serve the law of God, Romans 7:25,
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

This is how they had to serve God and keep the sin nature under control.
Through obedience to the law they were keeping the sin nature suppressed, and were pleasing to God.
So the law was given to keep the sin nature under subjection to the mind, as long as the law was obeyed.
So Christians can stand and rejoice, regardless of the best preaching you have heard, there is no reprobate mind for a believer.
So how do we serve God now, in spirit, Romans 1:9,
9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

The birthing (born again experience) makes it possible for the believer now to be renewed in their mind.
We do not realize at times how our mind reacts to things such as revelation and instruction from the HolySpirit.
Our mind can become an opponent to the things of God, Romans 8:7,
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

We are trained to read with through doctrinal glasses, reading what we believe to be true.
We need to be like Lydia in the book of Acts, with an open heart.
We desire the things of God but on the basis of how I understand the scriptures.
Understanding can be tricky because most of what you have was given to you by your Father.
What He gives you may not be all He has to give, you're understanding is how He keeps you searching, digging in the word, hungering for Him.
So you're understanding is very important, but there is a moving on process.
Paul had to deal with the Jewish people this way, all they had was their obedience to the law relationship with God, and Paul was trying to take that away.
All through Romans he is explaining to them, I have a better way.

 

[Jim Parker]

So Christians can stand and rejoice, regardless of the best preaching you have heard, there is no reprobate mind for a believer.

Yup: "...we have the mind of Christ." 1 Cor 2:16b

All through Romans he is explaining to them, (Jews) I have a better way.

I think Paul was talking to Gentiles in the book of Romans.
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

Good post.

iakov the fool

 

[Soul man]

Yup: "...we have the mind of Christ." 1 Cor 2:16b

I think Paul was talking to Gentiles in the book of Romans.
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

Good post.

iakov the fool

Yes he did address Gentiles in Romans as well as the Jewish people, Romans 4:1,17,
4 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

You bring up a good point, we need to look and see how Paul is going back and forth, addressing Israel as well as Gentiles in the same chapters, sometimes in two different verses that can run back to back.
We need to know who he is talking to at any given time.
When he addresses Israel we cannot mix it with how he addresses the Gentiles. Such as; Abraham is not our father, we are not Jewish, neither adopted in as Jews as some suppose. We were Gentiles, but in Christ there is neither race anyway.

 

[Jim Parker]

Yes he did address Gentiles in Romans as well as the Jewish people, Romans 4:1,17,

Good point.

Such as; Abraham is not our father, we are not Jewish, neither adopted in as Jews as some suppose.

Mmmmm....maybe not.
Consider:
Rom 11:16-18 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

The "firstfruit" and the "Root" refer to Israel.

Also:

Eph 5:30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.

Paul means we are members of Christ's body and Jesus is a Jew, a descendant of David.

Food for thought.

iakov the fool